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   title="NEW - Rename tabbed layout to notebookbar"
   href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125009">bug 125009</a>
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            <b><a class="bz_bug_link 
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   title="NEW - Rename tabbed layout to notebookbar"
   href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125009#c9">Comment # 9</a>
              on <a class="bz_bug_link 
          bz_status_NEW "
   title="NEW - Rename tabbed layout to notebookbar"
   href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125009">bug 125009</a>
              from <span class="vcard"><a class="email" href="mailto:vstuart.foote@utsa.edu" title="V Stuart Foote <vstuart.foote@utsa.edu>"> <span class="fn">V Stuart Foote</span></a>
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        <pre>(In reply to Cor Nouws from <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=125009#c8">comment #8</a>)
<span class="quote">> (In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=125009#c7">comment #7</a>)

> > How about "Ribbon"?
> Recognizable ánd confusing - because it's not just that.
> </span >

The "Windows Ribbon Framework" is a Microsoft marketing name [1][2] for a
Ribbon interface [3], originally marketed by Microsoft as their "Fluent UI".

While our MUFFIN Notebook Bar implements both a Ribbon (with Tab divisions),
and the equally appealing Grouped bars--we do not otherwise implement the MS
Windows Ribbon Framework--nor do we want to imply we do.  We be chasing our
tail to implement missing "essentials" coming from Microsoft's flavor.

<span class="quote">> What about changing
>   View > User Interface > ...
> to
>   View > Default/Side/Notebook bars > ...
> (how ugly ..:\  )</span >

No, we need to keep the View -> User Interface list selection (see reasoning in
<a class="bz_bug_link 
          bz_status_RESOLVED  bz_closed"
   title="RESOLVED FIXED - New UNO command that joins Toolbar Layout submenu and Notebookbar submenu"
   href="show_bug.cgi?id=115131">bug 115131</a>, or <a class="bz_bug_link 
          bz_status_RESOLVED  bz_closed"
   title="RESOLVED WORKSFORME - User interface options in Options->View are hidden in PT-BR"
   href="show_bug.cgi?id=108099">bug 108099</a>).  

If we had to do something (and not clear we do), let's hit users in the face
with MUFFIN!

View -> User Interface

   Standard Toolbars
   ---MUFFIN---
   Single Toolbar
   Sidebar
   Tabbed
   Groupedbar Compact

or with Experimental Features enabled

   Standard Toolbars
   ---MUFFIN---
   Single Toolbar
   Sidebar
   Contextual groups
   Contextual Single
   -------------------
   Tabbed
   Tabbed Compact
   Groupedbar
   Groupedbar Compact

or some such.

=-ref-=
[1]
<a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/windowsribbon/windowsribbon-introduction">https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/windowsribbon/windowsribbon-introduction</a>
[2] <a href="https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/uxguide/cmd-ribbons">https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/uxguide/cmd-ribbons</a>
[3] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_(computing">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribbon_(computing</a>)</pre>
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