<html> <head> <base href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/"> </head> <body> <div> <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_UNCONFIRMED " title="UNCONFIRMED - LibreOffice 6.3.0~rc2-1 Writer: undesirable menu changes" href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126674#c4">Comment # 4</a> on <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_UNCONFIRMED " title="UNCONFIRMED - LibreOffice 6.3.0~rc2-1 Writer: undesirable menu changes" href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126674">bug 126674</a> from <a class="email" href="mailto:unpocomas9@gmail.com" title="John Parker <unpocomas9@gmail.com>"> John Parker</a> <pre>Heiko Tietze says: (I) "The submenu is the only possibility to have many items in the context menu. The new structure aligns the list section with paragraph and character styles, which is a big plus." I don't know what you mean. The menu that opens when you right-click the numbered paragraph already presents many items specific to the paragraph context. For example, 'Paste' and 'Paste Special' only appear if there is content in the clipboard. I can't see why you say that a submenu is the only possibility. For sure, a submenu might help if there are many sub-options. (II) "The new structure aligns the list section with paragraph and character styles, which is a big plus." The old structure (LibreOffice 6.0.7 Writer) did that too. (III) "Beside customization, could you also consider a slightly different workflow by using the toolbar and/or sidebar?" The number of mouse actions was the reason for raising this Bugzilla item. The optimum workflow was to right-click the numbered paragraph and select from the menu -- two mouse actions. Using the toolbar requires five mouse actions. (I don't know how you would use the sidebar to start or continue paragraph numbering. How many mouse actions would that involve?) (IV) "Checkmarks are used to indicate a toggle state on or off. Makes not much sense here." Well, checkmarks are in fact used. Consider the following picture. (<a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/1uidynuz0j0pnrg/step1.png?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/1uidynuz0j0pnrg/step1.png?dl=0</a>) Here the numbered paragraph for the first step has been right-clicked and 'Bullets and Numbering' selected. Note the tick shown against 'Restart Numbering' in the submenu. I assume that that tick is there to confirm that numbering starts with this paragraph. Now consider the following picture. (<a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldowibgjub7mqol/step2.png?dl=0">https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldowibgjub7mqol/step2.png?dl=0</a>) Here the numbered paragraph for the second step has been right-clicked and and 'Bullets and Numbering' again selected. Note that there is still a tick shown against 'Restart Numbering' but no tick is shown against 'Continue previous numbering'. Why? If the purpose of the tick is to confirm that this is a 'continue previous numbering' paragraph, should not the tick be here? I would like to restate my reason for raising this Bugzilla item. I write lots of procedures. I customize my documents using numbered styles. The styles do all the formatting and numbering work but they have to be manually set to either start from scratch or continue. If a document contains many procedures, I have to start and continue numbering many times. In the past, I could do that with two mouse actions. I never needed to prepare custom menus. For me, the new menu rearrangement is a regression.</pre> </div> <hr> You are receiving this mail because: <ul> <li>You are the assignee for the bug.</li> </ul> </body> </html>