<html> <head> <base href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/"> </head> <body> <div> <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - Allow other keys than from US keyboard as shortcut keys" href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115052#c21">Comment # 21</a> on <a class="bz_bug_link bz_status_NEW " title="NEW - Allow other keys than from US keyboard as shortcut keys" href="https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115052">bug 115052</a> from <a class="email" href="mailto:mihhkel@gmail.com" title="Mihkel Tõnnov <mihhkel@gmail.com>"> Mihkel Tõnnov</a> <pre>(In reply to Thomas Lendo from <a href="show_bug.cgi?id=115052#c10">comment #10</a>) > Nothing new since the discussion between Jay and me. My feeling is that > English keyboard users are not aware of the restrictions that non-English > users have today regarding possible and user friendly keyboard shortcuts. Indeed. I'll try to explain the problem a bit more thoroughly. I'd say there are two major issues with current hardcoded list of keys available to be used in shortcuts: 1) non-US letters (like Õ, Ä, Ö, Ü, ß, Æ, Ø, Å, not to mention Greek/Cyrillic/etc. letters) can't be used for shortcuts even if they have their own key on a layout, 2) punctuation/symbol keys' availability directly vs. with Shift (or AltGr) is wildly different between US layouts and others. For instance, consider the following short (yes, short!) list of examples about available punctuation/symbol keys across some European and Cyrillic layouts: - dedicated "." key (most layouts) or Shift+semicolon (French layout)? - dedicated "," key or Shift+period (most Cyrillic layouts)? - dedicated ":" key (French) or Shift+semicolon (US) or Shift+period (many European) or even Shift+6 (Russian)? - dedicated ";" key or Shift+comma (many European layouts) or Shift+4 (Russian)? - dedicated "=" key or Shift+0 (several European layouts) or Shift+7 (Hungarian) or something else? - dedicated "/" key or Shift+7 (several European layouts) or Shift+colon (French)? - dedicated "[" and "]" keys or AltGr+8 and AltGr+9 (several European layouts) or something else (e.g. French)? - are numbers available directly or do they need Shift (French, some Cyrillic layouts)? So if a symbol that requires pressing Shift on some layouts (like ";" or "/") is used in a default shortcut in LibO *without* Shift (e.g. Ctrl+semicolon), it will either produce unexpected results or not work at all (because LibO detects also the Shift being pressed).</pre> </div> <hr> You are receiving this mail because: <ul> <li>You are the assignee for the bug.</li> </ul> </body> </html>