[Libreoffice-qa] New Bugzilla Version Picker items – 2

[Petr Mladek]

On Thu, 2012-06-14 at 11:10 +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
> Petr Mladek schrieb:
> 
> >>>> [Second schema]
> >>>>> 3.6.0.00x for alphas
> >>>>> 3.6.0.0x0 for betas
> >>>>> 3.6.0.100 for RC (example) and/or release
> >>>>> 3.6.0.200 for RC (example) and/or release
> >>>>> 3.6.0.200 for release(example)

> Hi Petr,
> 
> this Idea should not exclude additional information, of course we should 
> include tha "Alpha" and "Beta" Text. But I wanted to have all 
> information in the Version number to avoid problems with different sort 
> handling (you saw the strange Bugzilla sorting).
> 
> I think we should not use different separators, you never know whether 
> some system (Wiki, OpenHatch, Whatever) might have it's own ideas what 
> alphabetical sort order might be.
> 
> Complete Version concerning this suggestion would be:
> 
> Help / About            Bugzilla Picker
> ------------------------------------------
> 3.6.0.000alpha0+        3.6.0.000alpha0+
> 3.6.0.001alpha1         3.6.0.001alpha1
> 3.6.0.002alpha2         3.6.0.002alpha2
> 3.6.0.010beta1          3.6.0.010beta1
> 3.6.0.020beta2          3.6.0.020beta2
> 3.6.0.030beta3          3.6.0.030beta3
> 3.6.0.100               3.6.0.100 rc
> 3.6.0.200               3.6.0.200 rc
> 3.6.0.200               3.6.0.200 release
> 
> Advantage of that system is that it is only an expansion of the existing 
> one (RC1 3.6.0.1 becomes 3.6.0.100)
> 
> Alternative System, not compatible with current one
> 
> Help / About            Bugzilla Picker         Info
> --------------------------------------------------------
> 3.6.0.00alpha0+         3.6.0.00alpha0+
> 3.6.0.01alpha1          3.6.0.01alpha1
> 3.6.0.02alpha2          3.6.0.02alpha2
> 3.6.0.11beta1           3.6.0.11beta1
> 3.6.0.12beta2           3.6.0.12beta2
> 3.6.0.13beta3           3.6.0.130beta3
> 3.6.0.21                3.6.0.21                rc
> 3.6.0.22                3.6.0.22                rc
> 3.6.0.22                3.6.0.22                release
> 3.6.1.21                3.6.1.21                rc

Ah, I do not like much these schemes because:

	+ the number is too long and thus harder to parse and memorize
	+ it duplicates the information about alpha/beta ordering;
           you have  01alpha1 (1 is there twice), 02alpha2 (2 is there
           twice)
	+ I have never seen this anywhere else. I would prefer to use
          something that people are used to

Why about the following scheme?

Help / About            Bugzilla Picker         Info
------------------------------------------------------
3.6.0.0.alpha1		3.6.0.0.alpha1
3.6.0.0.beta1           3.6.0.0.beta1
3.6.0.0.beta2           3.6.0.0.beta2
3.6.0.1                 3.6.0.1                 rc
3.6.0.1                 3.6.0.2                 rc

It is actually your proposal, so I hope that it works for you.
I consider it as the best compromise from what I have seen.


> Unfortunately I see no way to shorten this more than "Alternative 
> System" shoes, except we accept M. Stahl's suggestion what counts a 
> 3.7.0 as some kind of beta ;-)
> 
> For the Bugzilla Picers I only want 1 Master for 3.6, one for 3.7, ...
> Also for the Branch I only want 1 Picker Version, may be
> 
> 3.6.0.000alpha0+ Master
> or
> 3.6.0.001alpha1+ Daily (Or Branch or ...)

I see, you are talking about daily builds. If we agree on the above
scheme, we could have:

Help / About 		Bugzilla Picker         Info 
------------------------------------------------------
3.7.0.0.alpha0+         3.7.0.0.alpha0+         daily
3.7.0.0.alpha1          3.7.0.0.alpha1
3.7.0.0.alpha1+         3.7.0.0.alpha1+         daily
3.7.0.0.alpha2          3.7.0.0.alpha2
3.7.0.0.alpha2+         3.7.0.0.alpha2+         daily
3.7.0.0.beta1           3.7.0.0.beta1
3.7.0.0.beta1+          3.7.0.0.beta1+          daily
3.7.0.0.beta2           3.7.0.0.beta2
3.7.0.0.beta2+          3.7.0.0.beta2+          daily
3.7.0.1                 3.7.0.1                 rc
3.7.0.2                 3.7.0.2                 rc
3.7.0.3                 3.7.0.3                 rc/final


> A remaining problem is Markus' script adding Target info. Before 
> 3.6.0aloha it it contained information due to 
> <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport_Details#Whiteboard>.

I am sure that the script will be solvable. IMHO, the new proposal make
it easier than the current 3.X-1.98.Y and 3.X-1.99.Y approach.


> Currently the Idea is to include alpha, beta rc as separate target info 
> versions, goal is to encourage testers to verify fixes and to give them 
> better info where the fix will be integrated. IMHO we should reduce 
> different wordings for the Versions as much as possible, but that 
> strings are rather long.

IMHO, the above proposal is well readable. If it is still to long, we
could use "aX" instead of "alphaX" and "bX" instead of "betaX". Well, I
somehow prefer the whole word.

> Can we try to get a solution until weekend?

I am sorry for the long delay between replays. I am not effective in
handling too many mailing list. I usually replay faster for mails where
I am in CC. Such mails are sorted into the the top-priority-mails
folder.


Best Regards,
Petr