[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

Thu Jun 21 08:55:11 PDT 2012

* Present:
	+ Bjoern, Eike, Mitch, Stephan, Markus, Michael, Norbert,
	  Cedric, Thorsten, Andras, Mirek, Petr, Kendy, Caolan,
	  Michael S

* Completed Action Items
	+ Late feature reviews (Kendy, Astron, Eike, Markus)
	+ icons: send out some mail addresses to poke (Astron)
	+ post on-line update numbers for 3.6 testers (Kendy)
		+ 600 on-line B1 / updaters registered
		+ promote B2 a bit more ...

* Pending Action Items
	+ [pending] merge the new pretty templates in place of the old ugly ones (Bjoern)
		+ new problems shown up with this -
		+ Caolan has tool for templates to strip lang tags so it works
AI:			+ try template lang tag stripping tool (Bjoern)
		+ need to fix & merge for Beta3
	+ icons: poke Tango authors (Michael)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ problems with scripts & new version numbering scheme
		+ hopefully it will survive the test of time
	+ 3.6 / Beta 2 status
		+ builds went well
		+ eager for templates in B3
			(last beta + hard string freeze), RC1 in a week
		+ pushing to mirrors as we speak
		+ misc. download script hackery ongoing
	+ 3.5.5 RC2 / deadline next Monday
		+ thanks for tripple reviews for RC2

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ mid-terms in three weeks - July 13th; students
	  need to get code included and merged to master
	  for then.

* UI / design update (Mirek)
	+ windows menubars support / look
		+ poll up yesterday - transparent vs. opaque vs. 50%
		+ people seem to want it opaque
		+ kendy working on it but happy whatever decision
		  needed soon; on vacation July onwards
AI:		+ revert to an opaque background (Kendy)
	+ splash screen proposals still pending for one week:
		+ submissions welcome:
		  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Playground/Splash_screen
	+ new templates
AA		+ check new templates are using auto-fitting functionality (Thorsten)

* re-basing update (Michael)
	+ 14k of 45k files complete - ~30%

* gerrit (Bjoern)
	+ idiots guide to using it (for Meeks)
		+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/gerrit
		+ need more people to test & accelerate it's deployment
		+ some workflows in the wiki are harder than necessarily
			+ when gerrit owns git - no problem.
	=> Major contributors need to log into gerrit so Norbert
	   can give you permissions
AI:		+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/ - click 'register' (All hackers)
AI:		+ then poke Norbert by E-mail to get yourself setup a commiter / reviewer
			+ the E-mail used for openID registration and user-account
			  on is needed (cf. core/.git/config)
		+ separate group of ACL's for merges / tagging
	+ thanks for working on it (Kendy)
		+ and for the FAQ:
		  http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2012-June/033872.html
	+ are we able to continue using git as before ? (Kendy)
		+ yes; people not forced to a new workflow.
		+ if we get it right, people should never feel
		  anything much changed - except the host to
		  push/pull to.
		+ -modulo- that every committer will need a gerrit
		  account in due course before we switch to gerrit
		  owning the git repo
	+ one-day, not before end of July (Norbert)
		- fdo will become a read-only mirror of gerrit
		- we already have a special user setup to do this sync.
	+ who has used gerrit ? (Michael)
		+ 24 accounts setup already, but more may have registered
AI:		+ notify all committers when we have a nice simple, minimal
		  statement of what is required written (Bjoern)
	+ concerns about loss of patches (Caolan)
		+ see how it plays out
	+ how can we integrate it well with mail ? (Bjoern)
		+ a daily digest of gerrit commits to dev. list ? (Michael)
		+ send everything to the list to start
		  with & throttle if needed (Kendy)
		+ we have a separate commits list today (Norbert)
		+ start not too much traffic as people use it (Bjoern)
	+ at the end of the day - people still need to do the reviews (Petr)
	+ gerrit has a nice query language:
		http://gerrit.googlecode.com/svn/documentation/2.2.1/user-search.html
	+ who can help out if you have problems ? Name (IRC nick)
		+ Bjoern (Sweetshark), Norbert (shm_get), David Ostrovsky (_david_)

* QA update (Bjoern)
	+ nice new bug flow diagram in progress from Joel
	+ ideas on getting more 3.6 testers deferred until next time
	+ new guys are doing great work triaging bugs
		+ gives us more MABs - and also better interactive
		  visibility of live issues.

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 72 open (of 238) older 68/231 67/229 67/226 62/219 60/213 67/211 68/205 71/205
	     30%                   29%    29%    30%    28%    28%    32%    33%    35%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 5 open (of 21) older 3/19 4/15 8/13
	     24%                16%  27%  62%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 179(+12) bugs open of 631(+17) total

	+ Started to double-count more classes of regression, to split
	  them out more easily: Crashes, Borders, Migration
		+ temporarily distorts graphs
		+ encourages fixing of these bugs

	* Component    count net *
	+ Writer       - 66 (-1)
	+ Spreadsheet  - 23 (+5)
	+ Presentation - 18 (+0)
	+ LibreOffice  - 16 (+1)
	+ Borders      - 11 (-1)
	+ Crashes      - 15 (+3)
	+ Drawing      - 12 (+2)
	+ Writer / RTF - 8  (+2)
	+ Database     - 6  (-1)
	+ Basic        - 2  (+0)
	+ Migration    - 4  (-3)

	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
	+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

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