[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

Michael Meeks michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Nov 8 08:39:22 PST 2012


* Present:
	+ Andras, Norbert, Eike, Caolan, Joel, David, Michael M,
	  Stephan, Kendy, Petr, Norbert, Michael S, Thorsten,
	  Cedric, Pierre-Eric, Ahmad

* Completed Action Items
	+ add a11y issue to 3.6.x release notes (Thorsten)
	+ audit set of new / built-in fonts (Caolan)
		+ they're fine.
	+ create script / suggestions to parse Meeks minutes (Bjoern)
		+ punted.
	+ fdo#51023 - impress D&D crasher - (thanks Tor !)
	+ post proposed set of rules for 4.x ABI handling to
	  list for discussion (Kendy)
	+ update wiki page wrt. 4.0 versioning details (Petr)
	+ set updater to get 3.5.0..2 -> 3.6.3 (Kendy)
		+ done.
	+ T-shirt feedback sent to Mirek (Kendy)

* Pending Action Items
	+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
	+ poke UX advise wrt. how to improve color management UI team (Markus)
	+ issues to look into if we can
		+ fdo#55360 - mac specific text issue (Thorsten)
	+ minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
	+ update master / build versioning (Petr)
	+ setup call for designs for FOSDEM T-shirts (Astron)
	+ font bundling and gerrit fun with Astron (Andras)
		+ waiting for Astron's feedback
	+ provide a new palette based on Tango (Alex?)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
	+ on-line update / full switch-over go/no-go ?
		+ there are and always will be regressions (Petr)
		+ instead propose update people on versions
		  in range: 3.5.0-3.5.x and 3.6.0 to 3.6.x-1 to 3.6.x
		+ that means updating up to 3.5.3 to 3.6.3 (as of now)
AA:		  keep this scheme up unless foiled by a security issue
	+ 3.6.4 rc1 branch deadline is Nov 12th
		+ branch on Tuesday.
	+ 3.7 timeline: Dec 3rd - week 47
		+ feature-freeze 3 weeks out.

* Hack-fest coming up:
	+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Munich2012
		+ if you're coming - please sign up: 20x guys so far.
	+ do people need travel subsidy to be there ?
		+ anyone interested please contact me.

* UX input (Astron)
	+ should we just default disable the rulers ? (cf. gerrit patch)
		+ concrete decision appreciated.

* Warning-free build issues (Lionel)
	+ new-contributor interest in reducing build time warnings
		+ most of the warnings are in included code not ours.
	+ punted until Lionel can be here

* FOSDEM dev-room:
	+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2013
	+ travel subsidy available
	+ talks much appreciated, sign up early.

* Certification Committee update (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)
	+ list is published
	+ [ list seen in blog ] ...
AA:	+ grok the list of contributors for suitable candidates (Kendy)
AA:	+ work on mail to encourage them to apply (Kendy/Stephan/Bjoern)

* formal ESC composition:
	+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/ESC
	+ add Joel
AA:	+ add Mirek (?) ask Astron / Mirek / Alexander (Kendy)
	+ add Tibby in Mitch's place.
	+ add Ahamd for MOTAH
AA:	+ poke the board with new names (Michael)

* submodules retrospective (Norbert)
	+ lots of people with exciting problems migrating
	+ seems to be working nicely now.
	+ issues with failed checkout of concern (Michael)

* Proposed easy-hacks -> Easy Hacks (Joel)
	+ re-visit finding devs to build code-pointers for these:
	https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=147895&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=ProposedEasyHack&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=REOPENED&product=LibreOffice

* 4.0 pending tasks
	+ binfilter - what to do about it (Norbert)
		+ remove it completely (Michael S)
		+ do we have a concrete criteria for this stuff (Caolan)
			+ remote Lotus Word Pro for consistency ?
		+ binfilter particularly bad: duplicated code.
		+ happy to remove it.
	+ bundling libre logo ? (Andras)
		+ cf. motivational mail to dev list
		+ around 200k with icons license etc.
		+ is it useful for office suite users (Stephan)
		+ useful for school children & fun in draw
		+ not eager for bundled extensions
			+ built it into the core (Stephan)
	+ should we drop Rhino, Beanshell & javascript in 4.0 ? (Michael)
		+ could be turned into an extension
		+ was in the past was turned off (Stephan)
AA:		+ disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael)
		+ for future deprecation / removal.
	+ upgrade bundled python to 3.0
	+ user migration path thought / testing
AA:	+ bump versions sooner than later, to find hard-coded '3's (Petr)

* LibreOffice conference bits
	+ please send links to your photos to
	  conference at global.libreoffice.org

* cool feature contributions from latest Ubuntu (Bjoern)
	+ shipping in latest Ubuntu
	+ PackageKit - just one patch, whack it in - an UNO component that
	  checks if pkgs are installed / install them etc.
		+ some distro-specific package name wrapping needed
		+ push buttons for additional templates
		+ lots of expansion potential: filters, lang-packs etc.
	+ Unity Menus
		+ re-base the branch vs. master
AA:		+ review the branch as/when it's re-based (Michael)

* UDS Update (Bjoern)
  - three LibreOffice sessions, some highlights:
    - we will do three daily LibreOffice builds in Canonical QA Labs:
      - master without system libs
        - can we tinbuild that for integration in upstream infra ?
      - release with system libs
        - best without tinbuild integration: breakages are more likely
	  Ubuntus faults
      - possibly: QEMU ARM build in QA mode.
    - greenlighted investigating cleaning up scp2, my goals would be:
      - make it driven by deps only, so that you can do "make
        /usr/lib/ure/lib/lib_unosal.so.3" without doing a full re-build.
           + v. useful for quick hackery
      - kill solver -- copy directly from $WORKDIR
    - various packaging titbits
    - http://errors.ubuntu.com/ is truely awesome
	+ enter libreoffice-core and 'last month'
	+ for Fedora (Caolan)
		+ https://retrace.fedoraproject.org/faf/problems/hot/*/*/libreoffice/
    - Ubuntu will introduce staged updates, maybe an idea for the
      Windows updater discussion?
	+ staged -> goes to a few people first, then a wider group.
    - quickly showed off bibisect, might be an idea for upstream GNOME too.

* QA update (Joel / Bjoern)
	+ business as usual
	+ trying to get back into routine - wrt. time-change

* Hard Hacks:
	+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
		+ page updated
		+ developers like the selection of hard hacks
	+ fdo#49610 - EDITING: Terminating 'Find' when reached (Michael)
	+ fdo#40594 - FILEOPEN .docx (MSO2010) does not show CHART object
		+ volunteer needed
	+ fdo#52433 - MEMORY LEAK: particular .odt leading to crash after ...
		+ well known image management is utterly shambolic disaster area.

* Closed 3.7 MAB (with thanks)
	+ fdo#56460 - CRASH closing specific .odg files ? (Caolan)

* Open 3.7 MAB / regressions [ there should be none ]:
	+ 4 (of 18) older 3/16 3/14 2/13
	+ fdo#53525 - 2 columns Table of contents exceeds page width ?
	+ fdo#55563 - PPTX image background rendered incorrectly
	+ fdo#55570 - significant autocorrect slow-down (Stephan)
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 34 (of 148) older 35/145 33/139 30/132 27/127 44/139 46/137 45/132 44/127
	      23%            24%    24%    23%    21%    32%    34%    34%    35%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
	+ 69 open (of 278) older 69/279 75/278 77/279 78/278 81/279 82/279 83/279 80/270
	      25%                 25%    27%    28%     28%    29%    29%    30%    30%
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1

* 3.5 bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 178(+1) bugs open of 891(+9) total

	* ~Component   count net *
	+ Writer       - 74 (+0)
	+ Crashes      - 17 (+1)
	+ Presentation - 17 (-1)
	+ Database     - 16 (+1)
	+ Spreadsheet  - 15 (+2)
	+ LibreOffice  - 12 (+0)
	+ Drawing      - 13 (+1)
	+ Borders      - 9  (-2)
	+ Migration    - 5  (+0)
	+ Basic        - 3  (+0)
	+ Writer / RTF - 1  (-2)

	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
	+ Migration tracker: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43489

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