[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Feb 7 08:04:48 PST 2013
* Present
+ Thorsten, Eike, David, Joel, Markus, Michael M, Norbert,
Mirek, Andras, Kendy, Petr, Stephan, Lionel, Caolan,
Fridrich, Florian, Tor
* Completed Action Items
+ get tshirts / hoodies printed (kendy)
+ Presenter console patches 4-0 backport (Ahmad)
+ turns out it was already done
+ create a new AmbitiousHacks wiki page, based on GSOC page (Michael M)
+ obsolete - a new GSOC is coming soon ...
+ regression catching on tinderbox figure out time-out issues (Markus)
+ python not capable of doing it, switching to C++ instead
+ completed generic / Linux builds -> RedHat (Caolan)
AI: + could we use it for tinderbox / daily builds first ? (Petr)
+ investigate re-using Win32 binary signing for Mac (Tor)
+ implemented for Mac.
+ tweak the configure defaults (Norbert + Tor)
+ no submodules by default, no gnome-vfs
+ investigate Samba related bugs (Joel)
+ fixed already, will be in 4.0.1
+ STLPort removal - release-note: Document dropping the DLL and the
VS run-time on the system in the release-notes (Fridrich)
+ German translators have special data for Duden too (nice!)
+ MySQL connector - can/will/where to ship it (Lionel)
+ just needs to be re-compiled vs. not having stlport
+ needs a volunteer to do that.
* Pending Action Items
+ Update gsoc ideas page before FOSDEM
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas (all)
+ everybody should update their their tasks and add new ones
+ find person who can write and add off-line help for impress-remote (Thorsten)
+ create/request mail alias for certification (Bjoern)
+ Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
+ Investigate native build/env scripts for SDK (Bjoern)
+ full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
+ pending input from Caolan / Cedric / Michael S
+ minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
+ Ubuntu font licensing questions, clarify at Canonical (Bjoern)
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 4.0 status / update ...
+ updated on-line help pending fixing server load issues & up-load
+ out; thanks to everyone for their hard work !
+ 4.0.1 rc1 commit deadline 1.5 weeks out: Monday Feb 18
+ 3.6.6 rc1 commit deadline 1 month out: Monday Mar 18
+ 4.1 new features:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1
+ 4.1 MAB (currently just one...)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Server load / status (Florian)
+ main libreoffice website migrated to new server
+ after significant tweaking - is coping nicely with the load
+ thanks to Cloph, Alex, Florian for hand-holding the server.
* FOSDEM update & thanks !
+ dev-room (Markus)
+ went well, very few talks over-ran, despite 20min talks
+ finished on time 5:20
+ several positive responses from having more shorter talks
instead of fewer longer ones.
+ thanks to Fridrich for taking over Kendy's MINGW talk
+ many thanks to Markus for his hard work organising the programme
+ booth report (Thorsten)
+ all around wonderful, really lots of people - around 20x
guys from the project helping out at/around the booth
+ Cor's very nice ribbon legend, and fine banner
+ very extensive swag give-aways from Kendy ... running out
of space on the tables to put anything else: and stack of
boxes nearby.
+ Thanks to all who helped out.
* UX input (Mirek)
+ 4.0/4.x branding
+ E-mail voting update
+ google-docs document where this takes place, closing on Saturday
+ partly depends on Alex.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsGS28t6YMF3dHFrTm9hMzZVNk9hNEZMN0NSbV9ZbXc#gid=0
+ theme colors / color-picker
+ might we adopt themes ?
+ yes - but no-one working on this just now.
+ ux-advise / possible easy-hacks ...
+ http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-ux-advise/2013-February/001817.html
AI: + will help out giving code pointers for some bugs (Kendy)
* un-publishing interface in 4.0.1 (Kohei / Stephan)
+ concern about doing that in a micro release.
+ resolved on the mailing list.
* back-port Mac signing for 4.0.1 (Norbert / Tor)
+ requires some tweaked XCode version / setup &
getting certificates into the keychain for signing
AI: + review them for the -4-0 branch (Norbert / Thorsten?)
+ is it possible to do that without installing full XCode ? (Norbert)
+ yes, done in the Makefile on the command-line (Tor)
* Android remote signing for 4.0 (Thorsten)
+ either use a key that expires in a year, or
use self-signed certificates - with some 20yrs of validity
+ in absence of better guesses - use self-signing to more
easily push updates.
+ fiddling with tag / pushing from -4-0 branch.
* Hard Hacks:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
+ QA meeting tomorrow to update these.
+ split between 3.6.x and 4.0.x
* QA update (Joel)
+ need to triage / unwind 3.5 MAB's ...
+ hopefully by next week be able to migrate those
+ QA going smoothly ...
+ a couple of new people on QA / chat recently
+ active team is growing - which is encouraging
+ ongoing discussion about whether to close long-term
un-responsive NEEDINFO bugs ...
+ tentative proposal so far:
reminder after ~6 months of no response.
and a month after -> INVALID
+ no developers spoke up wrt. bug-spam for closing /
reminding in issues.
+ final outcome up to the QA team to decide
themselves of course.
+ help is needed with triagging the following bugs:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?emailtype1=exact&query_format=advanced&emailassigned_to1=1&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=4.0.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.alpha1&version=4.0.0.0.beta1&version=4.1.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=4.0.0.0.beta2&version=4.0.0.1%20rc&version=4.0.0.2%20rc&email1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.org&product=LibreOffice&list_id=221457
+ focusing on stopping 4.0 bugs getting out of hand via triage:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugTriage
* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
+ 16 (of 91) older 13/79 17/76 10/69 14/64 13/48 13/41 9/34 10/34 11/31 6/21
18% 22% 22% 14% 22% 27% 32% 26% 29% 35% 29%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 44 (of 175) older 45/175 43/174 42/173 36/166 37/164 34/160 35/158 32/153
25% 25% 25% 24% 22% 23% 21% 22% 21%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
* 3.5 most annoying bugs ...
+ 47 (of 264) older 47/264 48/265 49/266 49/266 50/266 54/268 62/277 64/279
18% 18% 18% 18% 18% 19% 20% 22% 23%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=37361&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 47 (of 131) older 45/126 42/117 40/114 43/110
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?f1=status_whiteboard&list_id=204265&o1=substring&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&v1=bibisected&product=LibreOffice
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 254(+11) bugs open of 1218(+30) total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 88 (-1)
+ Presentation - 28 (+3)
+ Spreadsheet - 22 (+0)
+ Database - 21 (+2)
+ Crashes - 20 (+5)
+ LibreOffice - 17 (-1)
+ Drawing - 15 (+1)
+ Borders - 11 (+0)
+ Migration - 5 (+0)
+ Basic - 4 (+2)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
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