[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
Xuacu
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Thu Feb 28 10:25:47 PST 2013
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Xuacu
2013/2/28 Michael Meeks <michael.meeks at suse.com>:
> * Present
> + Norbert, David, Joel, Andras, Stephan, Kendy, Eike, Michael S,
> Astron, Petr, Lionel, Caolan, Thorsten, Michael M, Bjoern
>
> * Completed Action Items
> + master / unordf bug-fix before pushing writer doc (Michael S)
> + tweak default assignee / mail alias to include 'un-assigned@' (Joel)
> + lovely visible 'Not Assigned's everywhere ...
> + poke docs team wrt. writing off-line help for impress-remote (Thorsten)
> + thanks Sophie !
> + ping Marc wrt. creating a page with certified consultants in
> alphabetical order with rates etc. (Joel)
> + full-word selection / editing ergonomics cf. UX-advise
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46517
> + notabug (Michael S)
> + on-line update tweaks (Kendy)
> => upgrade everything to 3.6.5
> => upgrade all 3.*.0 -> 4.0.0
> + done for two weeks
> + continue ns timestamp discussion & conclude (Stephan/Lionel/Thorsten)
> + best outcome is to break it completely incompatibly
> + some knock-on ODF / standardisation impact
> + minimal triage for good mentors for proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
> + timed out on this AI
>
> * Pending Action Items
> + send out next round of certification invitations (Stephan/Bjoern/Thorsten)
> + Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
> + sent to Tollef - who is deadly busy just now.
> ** + Update gsoc ideas page
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Gsoc/Ideas (all)
> + everybody should update their their tasks and add new ones
> + disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
> + helping out with code-pointers for UI bugs (Kendy)
> + [ pending ]
> + look at gradient / clipart issues (Michael)
>
> * Release Engineering update (Petr)
> + 4.0.1 rc2 status
> + builds available, synching to mirrors
> + a slew of bugs included; please continue fixing.
> + 4.0.2 rc1 *next deadline*:
> + March 11th
> + 1 week + 1/2 from now.
> + 3.6.6 rc1 commit deadline 3 weeks out: Monday Mar 18
>
> * UX input (Astron)
> + new icon for impress remote merged and pending 4.0.1 release
>
> * final gnumake removal: status & thanks (Bjoern)
> + Some fantastic work here, we now build everthing in
> one gnumake process
> + http://skyfromme.wordpress.com/2013/02/28/one/
> + build dependency graphing in a post prj/ world (Stephan)
> + need a tool for dependency graphing
> + will we get new circular dependencies ?
> + no library linking will help and make will fail
> on circular deps (Norbert)
> + what is needed is a tool to parse the output of
> "make -n -p" - that dumps all the rules (Michael S)
> + not as obvious as build lists were (yet)
> + the build.lst's were rotting anyway (Stephan)
> + a lint tool for make -n -p would be nice (Michael S)
> AI: + write the start of a that tool (Michael)
> + then remove the prj/build.lst and d.lst files.
> + parse only the linktarget pieces (Bjeorn)
>
> * merging external changes (Michael)
> + tool in contrib/dev-tools/scripts/annotate.pl
> + all non-trivial patches require sign-off from relevant
> developer preferably ESC member and testing
> + and another sign-off for back-porting to -4-0
>
> * decision / dropping stale xmerge filters (Andras)
> + drop the minimally functional / not installed ones (Caolan)
> + ActiveSync 3.5 (for win95), pocket word,
> minicalc, htmlsoff, wordsmith
> + written often as mini samples / proof of concept.
> + decision: drop the unused filters, but retain the xmerge
> framework itself
>
> * Coverity progress (Markus/Norbert/Caolan)
> + new build up-loaded, it'd be nice if more people would
> register / help with the reports:
> http://scan.coverity.com/user_register.html project: 'LibreOffice'
> + then send your account details to Markus / Norbert.
> + making good progress < 600 'high impact' reports left.
> + un-caught exception reports more or less useless, always
> somewhere an exception is not declared.
>
> * Automated crash on import test results (Markus)
> + still hurt by the toolchain bug on SLES11
> + http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15167
> AI: + chase temporary PTF for the server (Kendy)
> + not publish until we're confident there are no false-positive
>
> * Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)
> + sent out list to ESC of invitations, no objections now,
> in one week - Cert. Program guys will async. certify
> them all as approved.
>
> * New features / improving communication (Joel)
> + How to identify new features quickly so QA can
> tackle them (can devs put whiteboard status "NewFeature") ?
> + Enhancement bugs should be marked 'Resolved FIXED'
> + CC Dev's responsible on any bug reports
> + encourage 'works for me' comments in such bugs.
> + try to avoid impress remote / unity issues next time.
> + If a master bug is reported vs. a new feature in the first month
> + CC the dev responsible for the new feature.
> + If a feature is specific
>
> * Hard Hacks:
> + http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
> fdo#61025 - Crash when adding a comment on a cell (Markus)
> fdo#40594 - FILEOPEN .docx (MSO2010) does not show CHART object (Michael)
> fdo#59932 - FILEOPEN: Text boxes with bulleted lists containing (Muthu)
> fdo#37580 - Assign layout malfunction and crash on slide with formula (Thorsten)
> AI: + can't reproduce in 4.1.x - can we get more details (Joel)
>
> * QA update (Joel)
> + since 3.6.0 35% of our bugs were filed via the BSA (Joel)
> + under 150 unconfirmed vs. 4.0, help appreciated with triage.
> http://tinyurl.com/a3csc2o
> + QA will add signatures to triaging comments something like:
>
> LibreOffice is powered by a team of volunteers, every
> bug is confirmed (triaged) by human beings who mostly
> give their time for free. We invite you to join our
> triaging by checking out this link:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage and
> join us on freenode at #libreoffice-qa
>
> Also, good bug reports help tremendously in making the
> process go smoother, please always provide
> reproducible steps (even if it seems easy) and attach
> any and all relevant
>
> + QA added a projects page:
> + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA_Projects
> + add new pieces of interest for QA there.
>
> * Open 4.1 MAB / regressions
> + 2 (of 5) older 1/2 3/3
> + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
>
> * Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
> + 14 (of 99) older 15/96 16/94 16/91 13/79 17/76 10/69 14/64 13/48 13/41 9/34
> 14% 16% 17% 18% 22% 22% 14% 22% 27% 32% 26%
> + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
>
> * 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
> + 75 (of 211) older 76/210 57/189 44/175 45/175 43/174 42/173 36/166 37/164
> 36% 36% 30% 25% 25% 25% 24% 22% 23%
> + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
>
> * Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
> + 27 (of 72)
> + re-built the query to avoid pre bibisected mess
> ** http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q - has the latest query for un-fixed bisected bugs
> + hopefully will help people find successful bisections faster
> AI: + export a more helpful link for next minutes (Kendy)
> + the bibisect is really excessively useful
>
> * all bugs tagged with 'regression'
> + 292(-3) bugs open of 1333(+32) total
>
> * ~Component count net *
> + Writer - 100 (-4)
> + Presentation - 30 (-3)
> + Spreadsheet - 28 (-4)
> + LibreOffice - 30 (+5)
> + Crashes - 21 (-2)
> + Database - 22 (+1)
> + Drawing - 17 (+2)
> + Borders - 13 (+1)
> + Migration - 5 (+0)
> + Basic - 2 (+0)
>
> + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
> + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
>
> --
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>
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