[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at suse.com
Thu Mar 28 10:26:29 PDT 2013
* Present
+ Stephan, David, Andras, Thorsten, Eike, Norbert, Cedric,
Petr, Kohei, Bjoern, Markus, Michael M, Michael S, Cor
* Completed Action Items
+ buy Mac build hardware (Thorsten)
+ GSOC: grab Kendy on IRC + file UX ideas together (Astron)
* Pending Action Items
+ Bugzilla attachments not set to autodetect (Bjoern)
+ [ pinging Tollef ]
+ disable Rhino / Beanshell unless in experimental mode (Michael M)
+ look at gradient / clipart issues (Michael)
+ helping out with code-pointers for UI bugs (Kendy)
+ [ still pending ]
+ SLES11 / temporary PTF for the server ? using SP3 toolchain ? (Kendy)
[ pending new packages ]
+ need design for copying styles between templates (Astron/UX)
+ either in that dialog or a new dialog
+ also issue with only editing templates that are
in the mgr
+ decided: change the default install directory to
'LibreOffice 4' on master (Pmladek)
+ instead have the global headers in one central global directory
+ check behaviour of git-cherry-pick (Miklos)
+ write up for the mailing list (Bjoern)
+ Personas - update / de-couple built-in URL (Kendy)
+ Icons for Lionel + template manager (Astron/UX)
+ buy Windows build hardware / hosting (Norbert)
+ still investigating options
* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 4.0.2 rc2 deadline - March 25th
+ synched to mirrors, released
+ quite a lot of over-complicated fixes on -4-0-2
+ want to reduce that flow for -4-0-x++
+ thanks for fixes though.
+ 3.6.6 rc2 commit deadline - Tuesday April 2nd
+ should be the final build.
+ didn't we want to say we want to support 3.6 longer
because of incompatibilities [ Michael S. ]
+ no more releases planned just now
+ May - 1st alpha for 4.1 expected
+ possible to squeeze another build out
if there is a bad regression / security
issue.
+ makes sense for one more micro release (Michael S))
AI: + find a slot in the schedule for it (Petr)
+ 4.0.3 rc1 - two weeks out April 15th
* "Feedback" menu item (Rainer)
+ concern that Feedback means 'file a bug' currently (Bjoern)
+ translation / UI freeze issue around the string - worse to
have a non-translated different string (Andras)
+ feedback more neutral, potnentially less scary (Norbert)
+ fix - pending website getting a 'feedback' page that tunnels
the version etc. information
+ could fix the URL in the code if we have a better page.
+ use a facebook page ? ;-) (Andras)
=> to the website guys ...
* UX input
+ missing input.
* GSOC update (Cedric)
+ updated the ideas page to add more code pointers etc.
+ Kendy added several UI pieces
+ we have submitted the application
+ mentors should want and have time to code on the same feature
* Daylight saving / next week meeting time ? (Michael)
+ switch to a CET time - rather than UTC
AI + ie. move to 1 hour later next week (Michael)
* Dresden Impress Sprint report (Thorsten)
+ blog pending with pictures
+ was great fun - enjoyed it a lot
+ pleased to see so many names in person, known only from
the mailing list, more local, focused on impress
+ thanks to all supporters
+ several bugs fixed, new people spunup, paper-cuts tackled.
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/ImpressSprint2013
* Officially raise minimum SDK for mac to 10.6 for master => 4.1 (Norbert)
+ decided 2012-11-15 - to drop 10.4/5 for 4.1
AI: + in-line with previous decision, update configure check on master (Norbert)
* CeBit AVG request to bundle installer with LibreOffice (Thorsten)
+ offer to bundle antivirus pieces with LibreOffice etc.
+ use their download infrastructure
+ would install toolbar in default browser
+ in return for cash
+ unanimous concern / rejection.
* Coverity progress (Markus)
+ Julien working hard on it still.
* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)
+ web-page for certified devs is:
http://www.documentfoundation.org/certification/developers/
+ next batch of certified devs is certified Italo to send out certs.
* Hard Hacks:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HardHacks
+ punt discussion of hard-hacks idea in general until next time.
* Issues with calc / cached-value import (Markus)
+ one big bug with a lot of duplicates:
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60215
+ only settings are stored if different from the default / toggled (Stephan)
+ we could change the default to not use cached values (Kohei)
AI: + do this rather than removing the feature (Eike, Kohei, Markus)
+ because inherited number formats are not in the file-format
+ only get after calculation is done.
+ or:
+ get rid of inherited number formats ?
+ feature makes the code so complex.
+ would improve interop too.
AI: + write to the UX list suggesting removal of feature (Markus)
* Calc core re-factoring (Kohei)
+ working on the grand plan of re-working calc / storage cells
+ preparing for that now, commits going into 4.1
+ ridding the code of ScBaseCell* outside ScDocument
+ future - move to more efficient contiguous type span storage
* QA update (Joel)
+ 113 unconfirmed vs. 4.0, help appreciated with triage.
http://tinyurl.com/a3csc2o (cf. topic in #libreoffice-qa)
* Open 4.1 MAB / regressions
+ 5 (of 10) older 5/10 4/8 4/8 2/5 1/2 3/3
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.0 MAB / regressions
+ 17 (of 111) older 19/109 19/106 17/105 14/99 15/96 16/94 16/91 13/79 17/76
15% 18% 18% 16% 14% 16% 17% 18% 22% 22%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
+ 74 (of 216) older 78/217 77/215 77/214 75/211 76/210 57/189 44/175 45/175
34% 36% 36% 36% 36% 36% 30% 25% 25%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 27 (of 83) older 25/78 29/78 32/79 27/72
+ re-built the query to avoid pre bibisected mess
http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 290(-2) bugs open of 1401(+15)total
* ~Component count net *
+ Writer - 99 (+1)
+ Presentation - 29 (+1)
+ Spreadsheet - 27 (-1)
+ LibreOffice - 27 (-2)
+ Database - 23 (+0)
+ Drawing - 20 (+0)
+ Crashes - 18 (-2)
+ Borders - 15 (+0)
+ Migration - 5 (+0)
+ Basic - 2 (+0)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
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