[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

Thu May 9 09:00:06 PDT 2013

* Present
	+ Norbert, Andras, Joel, Kohei, Michael M, Petr, David,
	  Tibby, Markus, Caolan, Kendy, Lionel, Tsahi

* Completed Action Items
	+ add a suggestion to do a single bug triage
	  to the GSOC requirements (Fridrich)
	+ status of Mac / coretext in 4.1 (Tor, Abdulmajid)
		[ more fixing required for Arabic & font-fallback
		  also some pixel jitter while typing ]

* Pending Action Items
	+ look into Windows gallery builds (Michael)
		[ work in progress, thanks to David for help ]
        + look at gradient / clipart issues (Michael)
	+ double check Lionel's list-box / API change (Eike)
        + need design for copying styles between templates (Astron/UX)
                + either in that dialog or a new dialog
                + also issue with only editing templates that are in the mgr
	+ feedback on stepped-lines dialog (Astron)
        + buy Windows build hardware / hosting (Norbert)
		+ [ ongoing expense management issues ]
	+ find a good public? test / webdav server for QA (Thorsten)
	+ kill calc / inherited number formatting for 4.1 (Markus)
	+ connect Joel with Andreas to get contact details for ext'n devs (Thorsten)
	+ revive writer default templates discussion - pwrt. incremental change (Ahmad)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.6.7 schedule - deadline: June 24th for rc1
        + 4.0.3 rc3 - released today ...
		+ thanks to mst for the case sensitivity fix.
	+ 4.0.4 rc1 - May 27th - ~two weeks out.
AI:	+ switch on-line update on (Kendy)

	+ 4.1 - feature-freeze: ~one week out: May 20th

	+ 4.1 Alpha 1 status
		+ build failed a bit, working on Windows
		+ Linux build should be fine
		+ Mac builds fine, but fails on startup in some UNO type bits
AI:			+ take a look at it (Stephan / David)
			+ missing rc / rdb files or somesuch ?

	+ 4.1 pending / watch features / issues
		+ wiki page needs updating with features:
			+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1
		+ gallery building (Michael)
		+ uno type database re-work (Stephan)

* Linux / Samba issue - missing gnome-vfs
	+ turned off in configure by default to help building
	+ gio not working there ...
	+ could be that file-picker and .desktop has a URL flag
AI:	+ look into URI mangling / path issues (Michael)
	  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64311


* QA update (Joel)
	+ manpower reduced
		+ Joel translating the yearly report
		+ some students doing finals
	+ 3100+ bugs triaged in last ~100 days
		+ http://joelmadero.wordpress.com/
	+ under a very specific circumstance corrupting docx on export
		+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232
	+ Features that never have worked
		+ if we find these, but they've never worked, what to do ?
		+ should we disable these until they are fixed ?
			+ or get regression priority ?
		+ tag as 'regression' even if vs. OO.o
		+ option to make experimental feature (cf. macros)
		+ bring up individually at the ESC.
	+ Warnings During upgrade about Extensions ? (Robinson)
		+ impossible to know what APIs are used by an extension
			=> can't do a really good job at this - of detecting
			   issues.
		+ really need to phone home during upgrade to determine
		  author annotated compatibility - needs coding & a volunteer
		+ in the meantime hope that during 4.x extension migration is
		  much smoother (Markus)
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
		+ rather more bugs opened than closed
			+155 -112
	+ what do with many-comment many-cc bugs that are growing ...

* UX input (Astron)
	+ not much to report.

* UI / dialog re-work (Caolan)
	+ 211 dialogs done (of 500?)
	+ http://blogs.linux.ie/caolan/2013/05/01/converting-libreoffice-dialogs-to-ui-format-200-conversions-milestone/
	+ perhaps 1/3 of the way through in terms of work
	+ introduced a MessageBox dialog
		+ honours the desktop theme for button-ordering
	+ should disable native button ordering until we can
	  do it in every dialog (Astron)
AI:		+ mail the ux-advise list + Caolan with feedback (Astron)

* gerrit mails decision (Kendy)
	+ postpone discussion pending Bjoern's presence

* GSOC update (Markus)
	+ both Cedric & Fridrich missing in action.
	+ we have 13 slots as of now, and some excellent proposals.
	+ no notification of students until Google announce that
		+ by May 27th - students will know.

* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)
AI:	+ announce new certifications (Kendy - poke Italo ?)

* Open 4.1 MAB
        + 3 (of 16) older 3/16 3/14 2/13 2/11 4/10 5/10 5/10 4/8 4/8 2/5 1/2 3/3
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
        + 17 (of 126) older 18/125 24/122 22/118 19/115 18/112 17/111 19/109 19/106
             13%             14%     20%    19%    17%    16%    15%    18%    18%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 72 (of 228) older 75/226 75/225 75/225 75/223 73/218 74/216
             32%             33%    33%    34%    33%    34%    36%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
        + 36 (of 100) older 30/90 28/88 26/85 24/83 27/83 25/78 29/78 32/79 27/72
        + re-built the query to avoid pre bibisected mess
                http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 301(+2) bugs open of 1513(+18) total

	* ~Component   count net *
	        Writer - 93 (+0)
	   Spreadsheet - 34 (+2)
	  Presentation - 31 (+2)
	   Libreoffice - 28 (-1)
	      Database - 22 (-1)
	       Crashes - 22 (+2)
	       Drawing - 18 (+0)
	       Borders - 14 (+0)
	     Migration -  3 (+0)
	         BASIC -  3 (+0)

        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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