[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

Thu May 30 09:24:25 PDT 2013

* Present:
	+ hangout: Bjoern, Kendy, Markus, Petr, Thorsten, Tshai
	+ phone: Ahmad, Tibby, Caolan, Joel, David, Stahl, Kohei,
	         Lionel, Cedric

* Completed Action items:
	+ 4.1 issues
		+ merge match-case search to 4.1 (Michael)
		+ superscript bug fixed (thanks to Khalad)
	+ buy fast Windows build hardware (Markus, Thorsten)
		[ Kendy has Prague one ordered ]
		[ PyCom will deliver 2x German ones, next week
		  big 1kg - 16cm heatsink into the box, Norbert's
		  plan was to overclock the machine like crazy ]
	+ add KACST guys to Hamburg Hackfest wiki (Ahmad)
		+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2013
	+ send gmail contact details to Michael to build a circle (All interested)
	+ send areas for QA to test in 4.1 (All)
		+ calc - basic operations / performance of big operations
		+ python wizard porting (File->Wizards)
		+ otherwise devs to mail the list individually

* Pending Action items:
	+ feedback on stepped-lines dialog (Astron)
	+ revive writer default templates discussion - pwrt. incremental change (Ahmad)
		[ pending ]
	+ 4.1 issues:
		+ fix gallery building on Mac (Michael?)
	+ get the gerrit / mail digest bits setup (Bjoern)
		[ stalled ]
	+ kill calc / inherited number formatting for 4.1 (Markus)
		[ branch is ready for merge - do we want it as a
		  late-feature / bug-fix in 4.1 ? ]
AI:		+ review it, and if Kohei approves -> goes in past feature freeze (Kohei)

* cached-value import issue (Markus)
	+ If you shipped 4.0.2 as a distro you need to patch this out
		+ the fix in 4.0.3 won't work if you had 4.0.2 installed
		  beforehand.
		+ we have 40x dups of this bug report already
AI:		+ send #ifdef it out patch to Bjoern (Markus)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
        + 3.6.7 schedule - deadline: June 24th for rc1
	+ 4.0.4 rc1 status
		+ thanks for fixes - lots of them included
		+ tag & builds are available, mirror push pending today
		+ dealine for RC2 is two weeks from now.
	+ 4.1 Beta1 retrospective
		+ Monday - deadline for 4.1 beta2.
			+ please try to work on critical fixes before then.
	+ 4.1 pending / watch features / issues
		+ wiki page needs updating with features:
			+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1
	+ 4.2 - created feature page:
		+ new bits on master go there:
		+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.2
AI:		+ extend the release plan to 4.3, 4.4 ? (Petr)

* QA update (Joel)
	+ started the needinfo project:
		+ warning people that we're going to close their bugs
		+ 336 bugs done, and of these
			+ 34 closed (mostly by the user)
			+ 19 marked as new - info provided + confirmed
			+ 17 - users provided the information
			+ rest are still NEEDINFO
		+ lots of people have apparently forgotten their bugs
	+ sent a bug highlight: popular, 5 dups
		+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=57738
	+ a few of contributors have more time recently
		+ Joren doing incredible bibisect work [ thanks ! ]
		+ if you don't need a bibisect for your bug:
			+ please remove bibisect_request to save time.
	+ call tomorrow
	+ Need_Advice bugs input appreciated
		+ 9 bugs in that state
		+ http://tinyurl.com/ce6d8km
	+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
		+ +175 -178

* Looking for invisible features in 4.1
	+ eg. gnumake migration finished
	+ significant .ui file migration
	+ Stephan's new type representation work
	+ string cleanup: a few more methods gone from UniString
	+ libmerged work - a single library now in common deployment
	+ Lubos' mass-removal of CONST_USTRING foo ...
	+ tools/ file-system abstraction gone
	+ Markus Mohrhard's crasher-fixes
	+ coverity work
	+ very significant calc core re-factoring / re-work
	+ component / service conversions
	+ coretext on Mac
	+ programmatic access to the database value behind BoundListBox ...
	+ more bibisecting
		+ box in Canonical QA labs -> a bibisect repo.
	+ limit clause in SQL query ...
		+ to get the first <N> results.
	+ (ns) precision on database foo ...
	+ wizard re-work to Python
	+ other input much appreciated - just mail me ...

* Hamburg hack-fest (Thorsten)
	+ Reminder to book travel
		+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2013
		+ we (still) have TDF travel budget $1k to spend
			+ approved Caolan, Michael, Thorsten

* GSOC update (Cedric)
	+ Thirteen students with us:
		+ data extraction: phone numbers from most students, to
		  help poke in extremis.
		+ response rate pretty good
		+ coding can start now, though official start is June 27th
	+ some great projects for 4.2
	  http://fridrich.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/libreoffice-google-summer-of-code-2013.html

* UX input (Astron)

* Better communication / hangouts / webcams (Michael)
	+ works - audio much better (Bjoern)
	+ send gmail details to Michael if you want to get added
AI:	+ add Joren & Kohei to ESC / circles (Michael)

* Doxygen branch (Michael S)
	+ merge it into 4.1 - or delay until 4.2 ?
	+ converts the IDL docs & comments in there to what doxygen expects
	+ requires the very latest doxygen release
		+ now about a week old.
	+ either on system, or disable documentation ?
		+ we do have internal doxygen for windows / mac already (Thorsten)
	+ is it required - without it it doesn't work (Kendy)
		+ comments in IDL files, have to be either autodoc understands,
		  or doxygen understands; or result will look awful. (Michael S)
		+ how bad is it with an older doxygen ? (Kendy)
			+ IDL docs would be completely missing (Michael S)
	+ which Linux Distro builds the docs ? (Thorsten)
	+ why is it worthwhile to have it on 4.1 (Stephan)
		+ get rid of autodoc earlier - just do it on master.
	+ problems maintaining the branch - service conversions going on etc.
	+ merge to master, and so can fix the build machines so we have
	  the right doxygen on them
AI:		+ add a doxygen version check to configure (Michael S)

* Certification Program (Stephan/Kendy/Bjoern)
	+ discussion about certified developer logo, do we have one ? (Stephan)
		+ asked on the list; hopes the design team can make that.
AI:	+ give Stephan rights to update the wiki page (Thorsten)
	+ need to send certificates out.

* Committers doing more reviews on gerrit (Bjoern)
	+ added a welcome message / confirmation - encouraging people to
	  remember what it's like not having direct commit access, and so to
	  review other people's code changes to OTRS.

* Open 4.1 MAB
        + 3 (of 26) older 3/23 4/17 3/16 3/16 3/14 2/13 2/11
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1

* Open 4.0 MAB
        + 16 (of 129) older 16/128 18/129 17/126 18/125 24/122 22/118 19/115
             12%             13%    14%    13%    14%     20%    19%    17%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1

* 3.6 most annoying bugs ...
        + 67 (of 232) older 69/231 71/229 72/228 75/226 75/225 75/225 75/223
             29%             30%    31%    32%    33%    33%    34%    33%
        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=44446&hide_resolved=1

* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
        + 41 (of 112) older 36/105 35/100 36/100 30/90 28/88 26/85 24/83 27/83
                http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
	+ 302(-2) bugs open of 1578(+25) total

	* ~Component   count net *
	        Writer - 107 (+7)
	  Presentation -  30 (+2)
	   Spreadsheet -  26 (-8)
	   Libreoffice -  25 (-2)
	       Crashes -  25 (+3)
	      Database -  21 (+0)
	       Drawing -  19 (-1)
	       Borders -  14 (+0)
	     Migration -   4 (+1)
	         BASIC -   3 (+0)

        + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
        + Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1

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