[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

Thu Apr 10 09:33:16 PDT 2014

* Present
    + Eike, Stephan, David, Kendy, Astron, Bjoern, Miklos, Markus, Christian
       Jacobo, Andras, Kohei, Michael M, Robinson, Norbert, Lionel, Michael S
 
* Completed Action Items
    + talk to fdo admins wrt. bugzilla dump (Norbert)
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + crashtest box - more research (Moggi/Cloph)
        [ nailed it down to 4000 documents where the problem is ]
    + will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Astron)
    + update wiki schedule to include new Alpha 1 (Cloph)
 
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 4.2.3 rc3 status / update.
        + released today, somewhat delayed by:
            + including a last-minute openssl / security update etc.
AI:    + update the security page (Cloph)
               http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/security/advisories
    + 4.2.4 rc1 - deadline is on Monday - April 14th
    + 4.1.6 RC1
        + tagged, Windows still building will up-load today.
        + openssl issue didn't affect 4.1.x
        + on-schedule.
    + Android / iOS remote
        + ahunt fixing a few bugs & testing with BlueZ 5.0
        + problems around new requirement for dbus service file install here.
 
* UX update (Astron)
    + nothing much done; will handle SpinachCon report shortly.
    + new version of Sifr potentially coming, re-colouring done manually
       + prefer that to be done programatically (Michael)
           + a few lines of code vs. 1.5Mb+ of theme
        + do we have SVG sources for all the icons ? (Kendy)
           + yes, we have SVG sources for all, but some keep on their hard-disks
              and not put into git.
AI:       + encourage icon authors to put them into git (Astron)
        + multiple repositories with icons (why?) can we flatten that ?
            + can we get git push access to contributing artists ? (Michael)
        + would like separate SVG files for icons for HiDPI (Kendy)
 
* LTO / fields concerns (Michael S)
    + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75376#c20 & comment 21 / 22
         + looks like we have an LTO bug in VS 2010 affecting Writer rendering.
    + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@47-TDF/2014-04-09_12.09.54/ (lto enabled build)
    + http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Win-x86@47-TDF/2014-04-07_11.14.34/ (lto disabled)
         + would love community help investigating MSVC++ LTO compiler bug
         + in particular a unit test to catch that etc.
    + propose to disable LTO on libreoffice-4-2 branch
AI:     + agreed - turn it off / push gerrit patch (Michael S)
    + propose to move to MSVC 2012 for 4.3 release builds where LTO does not produce this bug
       + TODO: enable --mergelibs on Win32 for 4.3
       + TODO: need to prevent JVM loading problem https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50584
           + currently happens to work because we use the same run-time as Java does.
           + there is a hack for JVM loading that looks around to manually load the run-time library that
              matches the JVM, apparently used to work with JVMv6 (used an older MS run-time)
              we could perhaps implement that for JVMv7 too - remains to be done.
           + I fixed this bug before, can give code pointers (Markus)
AI:      + look into fixing the Java bridge for MSVC2012 (Stephan)
           + should we still target Windows XP ? (Cloph)
                + by default it doesn't.
                + yes, should continue supporting WinXP
           + didn't MS drop support ? (Norbert)
                + not for everyone (Michael) 
 
* GSoC update (Fridrich/Cedric?)
    + still ranking / ordering students, check what's up
          + we've been kindly given 11 slots (whoot)
 
* Crashtest update (Markus)
    + still manually bisecting the .doc files for the bad one, so no new data yet.
          + just hit it - down to 200 documents ...
 
* Gran Canaria hack-fest (Bjoern)
    + April 24-25, 2014 (Thu-Fri)
        + see you there ...
 
* Certification Committee (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy)
 
* QA (Robinson)
    + holding the unconfirmed count to ~1000
    + BugHunting Session for 4.3 (May 23-25)
       https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_4.3.0
        + Sophie leading that
    + buzilla migration (Norbert)
        + Tollef responded ! we have a dump ... / sanitised themselves.
        + re-loaded on a VM setup for that; got it working; seems ok.
        + planning to re-do the install/restore so it's scripted
            + to avoid problems when we do it for real
            + also helps for disaster recovery.
        + concerns wrt. scalability (Michael)
            + bugs.fdo. runs on a ~huge machine, we need hardware to back that
            + in 3 years - we're 40% of fdo bugs. (Norbert)
                + havn't looked at that yet; mostly a money problem
            + intention to get to a point: where we can have an automated
               install / restore bugzilla.
            + Tollef agreed to shut-down fdo during the migration to get a
               consistent data-set, change DNS etc.
                + Tollef also wrote a script for individual re-direct.
        + Should we change hierarchy / arrangement ? (Michael)
            + no - lets have fewer moving parts (Norbert)
                + get the data out, and then move it later.
            + can move it later (Bjoern)
    + lots of interest from QA wrt. OpenID support for bugzilla (Robinson)
        + see if others deploying bugzilla can help out there ...
        + scrubbing kept every user that ever interacted with LibreOffice, but the
           user password is a hash; salted with a per-install super-long string.
    + any needinput etc. bugs to highlight ?
 
* QA stats:
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +165    -88        (+77 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Caolán McNamara     11
        sophie               6
        Michael Stahl        5
        Eike Rathke          5
        Jorendc              5
        Miklos Vajna         4
 
* Open 4.3 MAB
  + 0/1 0/1 1/1 1/1 1/1
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=3D75025&hide_resolved=3D1
 
* Open 4.2 MAB
  + 24/120 20/112 19/111 20/111 18/104 17/102 17/99 18/97 19/95 18/85 17/70
     20%    17%    17%    18%    17%    16%    17%   18%   20%   21%   24%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=3D65675&hide_resolved=3D1
 
* Open 4.1 MAB
  + 79/208 79/206 84/206 85/206 86/204 81/198 80/197 37/149 37/149 34/144
     37%    38%    40%    41%    42%    40%    40%    24%    24%    23%
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=3D60270&hide_resolved=3D1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
  + 39/189 38/185 40/185 39/182 39/181 40/180 40/180 42/180 42/179 43/178
    + http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression' (vs. 2 weeks ago)
    + 333(+0) bugs open of 2454(+28) total
    * ~Component   count net *
           Writer - 86 (-1)
      Spreadsheet - 59 (+2)
     Presentation - 27 (-3)
      Libreoffice - 27 (+1)
         Database - 25 (+0)
          Crashes - 22 (+1)
          Drawing - 13 (+0)
          Borders - 13 (+0)
            BASIC -  3 (+0)
        Migration -  2 (-1)
  + http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=3Dregression%2C%20&=keywords_type=3Dallwords&resolution=3D---&query_format=3Dadvanced&product==3DLibreOffice&list_id=3D36764

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