[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call
Jan Holesovsky
kendy at collabora.com
Thu Feb 6 22:31:39 CET 2014
* Present
+ Bjoern, Stephan, Cloph, Caolán, Fridrich, Kohei, Moggi, Kendy, Miklos, David, Michael S., Astron
* Completed Action Items
+ create a general ideas page, dis-connected from GSoC (Fridrich)
* Pending Action Items:
+ GSOC mentors - prune / remove already done ideas from each side (All)
+ need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?)
cf. http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01658.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01663.html
[ Astron made mockup, discussed with Cor, but not published yet ]
+ look into non-functioning 'install' button in update dialog (Kendy / Andras)
[ Kendy has security concerns around downloading & executing pieces here
not a trivial fix. Signing / build verification discussion stalled.
Investigation ongoing. ].
+ Online Help needs update to match current behavior (Help -> Check for Updates -> Help)
https://help.libreoffice.org/swriter/EXTENSIONS_HID_CHECK_FOR_UPD_DLG
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74388 [Bjoern/Kohei]
+ FOSDEM attendees: add talks to
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2014/talks
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 4.1.5 RC3 status
+ a Calc problem needed RC3
+ Linux & Mac already uploaded, Windows just packinging
+ will be announced for early testing later today, final announcement delayed to the next
week
* 4.2.0 post-mortem (Christian)
+ problem reported about Draw crashing - hard to reproduce, does not affect all users
+ maybe related to compiler? or accessibility?
+ fdo: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74226
+ Michael Stahl looking, proposed patches
+ needs to be fixed for 4.2.1
+ isnt that mostly happening on Windows 8 only?
+ anything to improve as release?
+ release is fine apart from Draw [Cloph]
+ some issue in Calc - couldn't reproduce yet [Cloph]
+ seems to be old OOo bug [Moggi]
+ comment handling issues [Moggi]
+ already fixed, but quite number of them [Kohei]
+ CJK issue in Calc - what's the status [Bjoern]
+ fixed & backported [Kohei]
AI + but Bjoern maybe talks a different one? [Bjorn] https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74388
+ branching for 4.2.1 planned for Monday [Cloph]
+ no need to delay, let's proceed as planned, in the worst case 3 reviews [Fridrich / consensus]
* iOS / Android remote (Cloph)
+ very well perceived, 5-star reviews :-)
* GSoC update (Fridrich)
+ page cloned, 2 versions - one with everything, the other cleaned up a bit
+ consider what you are able to mentor
+ remove tasks that you cannot mentor - the ideas are still archived at a GenialIdeas page
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/GenialIdeas
+ ideas to mentor should stay here:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
+ LibreOffice/TDF as an organization has applied
* Crashtest update (Markus)
+ new crash-test / data (?)
+ http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/60af010a98540b4785353b27ccbb545ef72e7791/
+ possibility to run with memcheck at KACST? - would be great
+ Norbert uploading new Coverity build
+ some timeouts... [Norbert]
+ you can ignore that [Moggi]
* UX hackfest bits (Kendy/Michael)
+ wrap-up
+ was great! [Kendy]
+ write your achievements here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2014#Achievements
+ were there new people? [Bjoern]
+ no idea - but at least met eg. Joren, Jacobo, Tomaž and others in person for
the first time :-) [Kendy]
+ can have a look at the page with subscribed people [Miklos]
* FOSDEM this weekend (Kendy)
+ wrap-up
+ 2 tables, handing over stickers, t-shirts, hoodies
+ many LibreOffice people around
+ on Saturday dinner, there were ~30 people related to LibreOffice
+ dev-room talks - let's collect the slides
AI + add to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing/Events/Fosdem2014/talks
+ recordings exist, but no idea where they are [Bjoern]
+ they will be at http://video.fosdem.org/2014/ [Miklos]
* Crash reporter (Caolan)
+ we don't use it, should we remove that?
+ we have a GSoC project for making use of that [Cloph]
+ probably let's kill that for now, and if there is interest in resurrecting it, let's
revert that / bring it back from history? [Kendy]
+ yes [Caolan]
+ not needed on Linux anyway, distros do it differently [Miklos]
* Certification update (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan)
+ no news
* QA (Robinson)
+ Bugzilla Migration update
+ no update.
+ Need-advice bug list bits ?
+ need to work through & remind some CC'd devs.
+ 4.2 issues
+ already discussed in the Release engineering part
+ please fix issues, there is no better time than now ;-)
+ 4.1.x regressions [x > 0] (Michael S.)
+ those that happened between 4.1.0 and 4.1.x
+ candidates for fixing in 4.1.6 - many need some more triaging (Mac specific bugs or complex to
reproduce or needinfo)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=385735&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&version=4.1.1.1%20rc&version=4.1.1.2%20release&version=4.1.2.1%20rc&version=4.1.2.2%20rc&version=4.1.2.3%20release&version=4.1.3.1%20rc&version=4.1.3.2%20release&version=4.1.4.1%20rc&version=4.1.4.2%20release&version=4.1.5.1%20rc&version=4.1.5.2%20rc&version=4.1.5.3%20release&version=4.1.6.1%20rc&product=LibreOffice
+ would be good to make sure we don't have any of these in 4.1.6 [Bjoern]
+ in 3.6.x QA walked through those then and found most either fixed, or proved
not to be a regression vs. 3.6.0 [but one, but that was reported after the
final release]
* QA stats:
Querying overall / top bug stats
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+ 305 -274 (+31 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 82
Cor Nouws 15
Maxim Monastirsky 15
Caolán McNamara 12
tommy27 11
Jean-Baptiste Faure 11
Michael Stahl 10
Joel Madero 7
Kohei Yoshida 7
Qubit 6
Andras Timar 6
Jorendc 6
sophie 6
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 19/95 18/85 17/70 17/65 17/59 21/58 15/45 14/38
20% 21% 24% 26% 28% 36% 33% 37%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 37/149 34/144 34/142 36/142 33/138 32/137 32/136 29/130 29/127
24% 23% 23% 25% 23% 23% 23% 22% 23%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 52/211 54/212 52/210 52/208 52/208 55/208 56/208 55/208 56/208 57/208
24% 25% 24% 25% 25% 26% 26% 26% 27% 27%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 42/179 43/178 43/176 44/176 44/175 44/170 46/169 48/169 48/168
+ http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 346(+0) bugs open of 2295(+40) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 91 (-4)
Spreadsheet - 64 (+9)
Libreoffice - 30 (-1)
Presentation - 27 (+1)
Crashes - 22 (-1)
Database - 21 (-2)
Drawing - 16 (-1)
Borders - 16 (+0)
BASIC - 4 (-2)
Migration - 3 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
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