[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call
Jan Holesovsky
kendy at collabora.com
Fri Feb 21 04:10:25 PST 2014
* Present: Christian, Bjoern, David, Kendy, Miklos, Moggi, Adam, Miklos, Michael S., Lionel, Norbert, Stephan,
Cedric, Andras, Robinson
* Completed Action Items
+ File an MAB for install issues (Kendy)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74934
* Pending Action Items:
+ GSOC mentors - prune / remove already done ideas from each side (All)
+ need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?)
cf. http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01658.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/libreoffice-ux-advise@lists.freedesktop.org/msg01663.html
[ Astron made mockup, discussed with Cor, but not published yet ]
+ will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Astron)
+ review HiDPI branch for 4.2 (Kendy, Michael, Caolan)
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 4.1.5 RC3 status
+ released now, closed
+ 4.2.1 RC1 / final status
+ announced today, went public
+ 4.2.2 will be what was 4.2.1.2 rc2
+ did not change
+ deadline for the 4.2.2 did not change
+ future schedule - should we ~always do that ?
+ MAB:
+ 2 are more serious: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/50855
+ will try to bi-bisect it [Christian]
+ suggested change to the release plan: 4 weeks between .0 and .1, 5 weeks between .1 and .2
+ sounds good [Bjoern]
+ didn't we have even shorter .0 and .1? - ie. sounds good to me too :-) [Kendy]
+ 4.3 just before the conference, might be tricky [Bjoern]
AI + agreed, Christian will update the wiki [Christian]
+ some patches in 4-2-1 branch
AI + should be cherry-picked to 4-2-2 [Christian]
* UX update (Astron)
+ discussion about how to use sidebars in the future
+ new sifr theme: lots of people love that [Bjoern]
+ but some people would like to have it a bit lighter for dark themes
+ could we have some sifr-light for dark themes? [Bjoern]
+ based on gnome, possible to re-color on the fly [Astron]
+ some of them available only as png's [Astron]
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/01/libreoffice-4-2-new-icon-theme (see comments)
+ hi-dpi sifr version? [Astron]
+ would it make sense to exchange hicontrast with sifr-light? [Kendy]
+ concerns about accessibility [Bjoern]
+ not clear to me if the colors in the hicontrast are needed, or if the white as
the base color is what is most needed there [Kendy]
+ no objection to sifr-light in general
* GSoC update (Cedric)
+ Google review starting / underway
+ please consider what you are able to mentor:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
+ cleanup still needed - everyone should review the page
+ we will have answer from Google on Monday
+ after that, students can reach us, by Monday evening it has to be perfect
AI + Cedric to poke people who haven't done any action there
* Crashtest update (Markus)
+ new crash-test / data (?)
+ http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/f3d93434829d0e7c004679d000c30a934083b188/
+ will produce new one over the weekend
+ 15 fixes: real impact! - you can fix hundreds of documents
+ most of that can be fixed by pointer check
+ so easy stuff, go for that! :-)
* Problems in image scaling code (Markus)
+ can we use openmp there? anybody against?
+ nobody familiar here probably :-) [Miklos]
+ gcc and visual studio both support that [Markus]
+ easy to use [Markus]
+ go for that - I guess you know most of that anyway [Kendy]
* ODF TC / how we handle ODF proposals (Miklos)
+ typically developers add new features, and create an ODF extension
+ ideally leads to proposal that should be sent to the ODF TC
+ includes extending RelaxNG + description
+ follow-up was handled by Thorsten previously
+ has to be done in Jira, where only some people have access
+ some follow-up questions answering
+ ie. cannot be done by every developer
+ Thorsten cannot do that any more
+ do we have people who have access these days?
+ 2 people active now: Regina [TDF], Michael S. [RedHat]
+ Michael S. will talk to Thorsten
+ Michael S. could act as a proxy at least, hopefully
* GNU make, upstreaming stuff (Bjoern)
+ cleaned up branches, now at: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=gnu-make-lo.git
+ dependency caching: parsing of deps down to 0.6 seconds from 6 seconds on Linux (branch feature/depcache)
+ need testing on Windows - incremental builds
AI + Kendy to try it on his tinderbox
+ sugggested to upstream:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-make/2014-02/msg00055.html
* Certification update (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan)
+ we should start a new round
* QA (Robinson/Bjoern)
+ ciabot/libreoffice-bugzilla.pl bot got confused a bit with 4.2.1 :-)
+ if it hurts you, please check the git log & comment in the bug [Bjoern]
+ Bugzilla Migration update
+ Local VM for testing Bugzilla, Joel helping
+ NeedAdvice bug list
+ on the QA's radar
+ should QA CC people there?
+ there are few sitting there for months, want to have the list clean
+ remove those that are not serious, poke people on IRC for the serious ones? [Kendy]
+ Addressing bugs sitting in this category
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=385735&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=NEEDINFO&bug_status=PLEASETEST&version=4.1.1.1%20rc&version=4.1.1.2%20release&version=4.1.2.1%20rc&version=4.1.2.2%20rc&version=4.1.2.3%20release&version=4.1.3.1%20rc&version=4.1.3.2%20release&version=4.1.4.1%20rc&version=4.1.4.2%20release&version=4.1.5.1%20rc&version=4.1.5.2%20rc&version=4.1.5.3%20release&version=4.1.6.1%20rc&product=LibreOffice
* QA stats:
Querying overall / top bug stats
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+193 -170 (+23 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Jorendc 18
tommy27 16
Kohei Yoshida 14
Caolán McNamara 11
mariosv 10
Maxim Monastirsky 8
Artur Dryomov 8
Patrick Ohly 7
Michael Stahl 7
Adolfo Jayme 4
Foss 4
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 17/99 18/97 19/95 18/85 17/70 17/65 17/59 21/58 15/45 14/38
17% 18% 20% 21% 24% 26% 28% 36% 33% 37%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=65675&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 80/197 37/149 37/149 34/144 34/142 36/142 33/138 32/137 32/136 29/130
40% 24% 24% 23% 23% 25% 23% 23% 23% 22%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=60270&hide_resolved=1
* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 4/166 49/211 52/211 54/212 52/210 52/208 52/208 55/208 56/208 55/208
2% 23% 24% 25% 24% 25% 25% 26% 26% 26%
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=54157&hide_resolved=1
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 40/180 42/180 42/179 43/178 43/176 44/176 44/175 44/170 46/169 48/169 48/168
+ http://bit.ly/VQfF3Q
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 335(+0) bugs open of 2326(+19) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 87 (+1)
Spreadsheet - 59 (+4)
Libreoffice - 28 (-1)
Presentation - 25 (-2)
Database - 21 (+0)
Crashes - 20 (+0)
Drawing - 15 (-1)
Borders - 13 (-1)
BASIC - 5 (+1)
Migration - 3 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&resolution=---&query_format=advanced&product=LibreOffice&list_id=36764
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
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