[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Feb 27 08:57:26 PST 2014
+ Caolan, David, Cedric, Norbert, Markus, Michael M, Lionel, Eike,
Astron, Jacobo, Kohei, Stephan B, Robinson, Christian, Adam,
* Completed Action Items
+ test Bjoern's up-streamed dep caching on Windows (Kendy)
[make 3.82: (4m04), 3m29, 3m30, 3m28; make 4.0: (3m30), 3m24, 3m23, 3m25]
+ GSOC mentors - prune / remove already done ideas from each side (All)
+ need design for copying styles between templates (Cor Nouws/other UX?)
Astron made mockup as discussed with Cor:
+ update the release plan wiki for 4.3 (Christian)
initially we had .0 5 weeks .1, then 4 weeks .2
now it is .0, then 4 weeks .1, then 5 weeks, .2
no idea where the initial schedule came from - was that way
for 4.1 and 4.2 4 weeks is OK if .0 is in a shape we are happy
with - feedback from users takes at least 2 weeks, so shorter gap
doesn't make much sense.
+ 3.6.0 had a three week gap - prefer something smaller ? (Michael)
+ cherry-pick patches 4-2-1 -> 4-2-2 (Christian)
[ checked, but not necessary ]
+ poke inactive GSoC mentors (Cedric)
* Pending Action Items:
+ will try filing a lot of small string changes as easy hacks (Astron)
+ review HiDPI branch for 4.2 (Kendy, Michael, Caolan)
[ pending branch creation ]
+ talk with Thorsten wrt. ODF TC representation (Michael S)
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 4.2.2 currently building rc1 (initially known as 4.2.1 rc2)
+ only one rc planned for this
+ this release should be the final one.
+ 4.2.3 deadline - week of March 10th
+ 2 are more serious: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/50855
+ just added a bibisect request (Michael)
+ tried to bi-bisect it (Christian)
+ but didn't find a version that it worked for.
+ like PDF export, a bug but needs description tweak.
+ 4.2 just picks a different style by default.
* UX update (Astron)
+ concerned about the hyperlink dialog was handled on ux-advise
+ patch in gerrit to make it disappear when you hit apply,
some push-back, proposed a new patch to revert back.
+ is a bit confusing, but agree with Mirek's analysis.
+ Sifr-light discussion and/or using it as the high-contrast theme.
+ bugs have been filed.
+ would be cool to have a programmatic re-colouring of the icons.
+ already have darken/lighten BitmapEx bits (Michael)
+ is it a real replacement from an a11y perspective ? (Bjoern)
+ Stuart - no problem with replacing hicontrast with Sifr (Astron)
=> nothing in the way etc.
+ talked with Matthew Paul Thomas @ Canonical (Bjoern)
+ loves detail, and had some great insights
+ would like to introduce him to other UX guys.
+ one item: sorting out the LibreOffice menus.
* GSoC update (Cedric)
+ Lots of tasks in the impress area
+ need other mentors for tasks there
+ please consider what you are able to mentor:
+ students are starting to arrive, applications from March 10th -> 21st.
* OOXML Strict namespaces (Markus)
+ import issues caused by namespace handling bits
+ can solve this by mapping new namespaces to the same IDs
+ otherwise need a lot of code changes.
+ for export, can use the same trick; but with more places
+ need to drop features for strict.
+ needs a new filter, needs handling for cases to remove.
+ VML not supported eg.
+ no concerns wrt. duplicate namespace tokens for import (All)
+ already have 2x OOXML exports: 2007 and ISO transitional (Markus)
+ need to extend the enum already here for writer (Kendy)
* Editeng indexing change (Norbert/Kohei)
+ spell-checking currently broken in master, but works in 4.2
AI + have a look into it (Norbert)
* Crashtest update (Markus)
+ no new crash-test / data etc.
+ hitting a kernel bug on the crash-testing VM
+ 2x deadlocks of the VM - when load was too high, couldn't log in.
+ already at a load of 24; 500 documents every 2 hours or so.
+ after 10k documents: load jumps up.
+ 50k documents -> a week.
+ normally takes 3-4 days.
+ no real insights yet; log shows kernel oops' (Cloph)
+ running current Fedora 19 -> recent updates, caused grief ?
+ upgrade to F20 instead ?
+ used it to get a modern toolchain.
AI: + upgrade it to F20 (Cloph)
+ Ahmad - volunteered his super-computer for memcheck
+ E-mail / hope to profile access soon.
then need to write tooling to de-duplicate
* Certification update (Kendy/Bjoern/Stephan)
+ we should start a new round; need to run the script etc.
* Coverity bits (Stephan)
+ 50 thousand line patch to add std::exception too all of the
UNO throw decorations => should shrink our coverity count a lot.
+ Caolan + Norbert removed a few thousand manually too in the
+ the changes from last run catch some great issues that haven't
got near a user yet, now fixed.
* Alexander's formatting patches (Bjoern)
+ how should we handle such large cosmetic changes ?
+ sc/ is still in gerrit.
+ Caolan doing lots of work here - be surprised how well
cherry-picking works; so not bothered.
* SCALE report (Robinson)
+ excellent, lots of enthusiastic users.
+ invite to Texas as well
+ lots of student interest, queued up for hackfests
+ poked openhatch guys too
+ plenty of rounds provided for LibreOffice folk.
+ hoping to get more people into QA there.
* QA (Robinson/Bjoern)
+ Bugzilla Migration update
+ did get briefly in touch with Tollef.
+ hope to make progress wrt. migration
+ Hoping to get a VM up & running
+ can do preparatory work locally
+ Confusion over whiteboard status 'ProposedEasyHack'
+ confusing it with EasyHack
=> will replace with 'NeedsDevEval'
* QA stats:
Querying overall / top bug stats
+212 -122 (+90 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Kohei Yoshida 19
Jacques Guilleron 7
Xisco Faulí 6
Caolán McNamara 6
Julien Nabet 6
Adolfo Jayme 5
* Open 4.3 MAB
* Open 4.2 MAB
+ 17/102 17/99 18/97 19/95 18/85 17/70 17/65 17/59 21/58 15/45 14/38
16% 17% 18% 20% 21% 24% 26% 28% 36% 33% 37%
* Open 4.1 MAB
+ 81/198 80/197 37/149 37/149 34/144 34/142 36/142 33/138 32/137
40% 40% 24% 24% 23% 23% 25% 23% 23%
* Open 4.0 MAB
+ 4/166 4/166 49/211 52/211 54/212 52/210 52/208 52/208 55/208 56/208
2% 2% 23% 24% 25% 24% 25% 25% 26% 26%
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibsected'
+ 40/180 40/180 42/180 42/179 43/178 43/176 44/176 44/175 44/170 46/169 48/169
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 345(+10) bugs open of 2346(+20) total
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 92 (+5)
Spreadsheet - 58 (-1)
Libreoffice - 28 (+0)
Presentation - 27 (+2)
Database - 22 (+1)
Crashes - 21 (+1)
Drawing - 17 (+2)
Borders - 15 (+2)
BASIC - 5 (+0)
Migration - 3 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/15mM2Yn - for devs ( no NEEDINFO / UNCONFIRMED )
+ Migration: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=43489&hide_resolved=1
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