[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Jul 2 09:30:51 PDT 2015
+ Sophie, Lionel, Thorsten, Stephan, Kendy, Andras, Miklos, Robinson,
Christian, Norbert, Bjoern, Muthu, Noel, Michael S, Michael M
* Completed Action Items:
+ mail projects list wrt. 5.0 branding with un-ignorable subject (Kendy)
+ drop regression / tendering ideas into the wiki & poke authors (Michael)
[ each needs a v. rough cost / estimate ]
+ dig out documentation on compiling SDK examples -> odk/README (Stephan)
[ in the README: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=8c30d8bbb8a0b3682160252ee065befabf613a7b ]
+ poke GSOC student(s) to encourage them to be on IRC (Thorsten)
[ mostly are there ]
+ file conference papers [!] (All)
+ Regressions : why, what, extermination (Michael)
+ 10x minute how-to-write-a-Clang-plugin-for-beginners (Stephan)
+ C++-14 (Stephan) + and another one.
+ Coverity / Import / Export crashers (Caolan)
+ GTK3 Port (Caolan)
* Pending Action Items:
+ file conference papers [!] (All)
+ please submit abstracts:
+ Android editing (Miklos/Tomaz)
+ Rendercontext foo (Kendy)
+ some beginner oriented stuff & website infra (Cloph)
+ Release Engineering / freeze overview (Bjoern)
+ From extensions to core: how ti works (Bjoern)
+ Ace of Base (Lionel)
+ Calc somethings (Eike)
+ ODF / TC bits (Andras)
+ test win64 / thunderbird / mork integration (Robinson)
[ issues with testing, being unable to connect
no SDBC driver was found for the url sdbc://thunderbird ...
AI: Sophie writing a MozTap test-case ]
+ re-arrange the help XML for the menu changes (Jay)
[ still pending - now finished impress & will begin on this
AI: encourage help fixing (Kendy)]
+ snapshot & check-in help authoring extension to dev-tools (Kendy)
[ still not yet ]
+ UserAgent - drop bundled-languages (Michael)
+ UserAgent - produce a patch for review (Michael)
+ review ongoing pootle maintenance funding arrangements (Floeff)
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ many of the bugs reported & discussed on lists fixed.
+ 4.4.4 status
+ 4.4.5 - July 6th next deadline - Mon/Tues.
+ 5.0.0 - RC3 lots better next week: Thur/Fri.
+ Major bugs
+ Java not working without the old VS2010 MSVC runtime (Cloph on it)
+ presenter console - not visible on any platform (Cloph+Michael)
+ menus disappearing -> some loop, fixed on master not -5-0
+ Miklos to back-port.
+ non-common a11y code-paths from gtk3 on master in base fixed (Michael)
+ PDF export Mac (Norbert)
+ the DX-array bits don't work; so PDF appears not to be justified
+ fairly visible / annoying; fixed it 9k patches ago,
forward porting that fix makes that break again
+ want it in before RC3
+ 5.0 branch just needs a single extra review until RC3
+ heavy-duty tripple-review process & branch: Jul 6th - 2nd week July.
+ Late Feature Status (Michael)
+ LibreOfficeKit / Online tweaks (Kendy)
+ nothing affecting the core.
+ OpenGL / double-buffer RenderContext (Michael)
+ steady stream of fixes left/right.
+ OpenGL by default not achievable for 5.0.0
+ propose re-visit @ ESC for 5.0.1 for some H/W on Windows.
+ gtk3+ (Caolan)
+ gtk3 won't affect anything TDF ships for 5.0
+ JRE issue, cloph found a fix.
+ 5.0 splash / startcenter graphics / about dialog (Kendy?)
+ pushed changes implementing new (grey) color scheme to master.
+ pending review in gerrit.
+ implemented universally; colors can be changed back.
+ all configurable in the user-profile.
+ green is one setting away.
+ Graphics itself:
+ mostly finalized the splash.
+ do marketing know (Bjoern)
+ yes (Kendy)
** + expect to push this past the UI freeze **
+ will be in the next RC3 ...
AI: + view 4x gerrit patches (Bjoern)
+ Android & iOS Remote
+ review still pending.
+ upping baseline to something that supports kde4 and possibly gtk3
+ be nice to suppoort gtk3 too - but CentOS/7 is a bit new
not a good idea to drop Ubuntu LTS.
+ CentOS/6 - to get kde4
+ proposed for MS 5.1
+ fine with it (Stephan)
+ no objections -> do it.
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ HIG guidelines updates
+ now out for comments: http://user-prompt.com/libreoffice-human-interface-guidelines-context-menu-and-sidebar/
+ 5.0 graphics - ongoing as above.
+ templates contest - 5x new templates so far.
+ more expected from team.
+ tragic data-loss in help changes.
* Crashtest update (Caolán)
+ 0 import failures, 3 export failures.
+ Two of those now also fixed by Caolan
+ mstahl fixed the chart referring to old-style table content recursive layout assert
+ problem exporting a non-well formed docx document.
+ testing / host upgrade (Christian)
+ upgraded to Debian 8 - problem with grub install
+ help with Manitu support -> otherwise all well.
+ machine still stable etc.
* Consolidate mobile build configurations: Android, iOS (Bjoern)
+ Ubuntu touch playing with LibreOfficeKit
+ would like to have a small build set there too.
+ lots of Android/iOS ifdefs
+ does anyone object to have a real 'mobile' switch instead ?
+ HAVE_FEATURE_DESKTOP already there (Miklos)
+ ideally #if HAVE_FEATURE_DESKTOP ... #endif
+ also to consider - run-time tiled-rendering specific check in comphelper (Kendy)
+ perhaps some are tiled vs. not-tiled rendering
+ tests for Android / iOS (Michael)
+ checklist in the wiki to work vs (Miklos)
+ best to do this all at once & then check it.
+ may not generalize stuff for iOS (Michael S)
+ cf. arbitrary apple app-store guidelines.
+ nicer platform abstraction appreciated.
* GSoC (Thorsten)
+ Mid-term evaluation status: everything filed.
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ contacted by Aarhus LibreOffice conference guys wrt.
+ 2nd day of conference
+ looking for a "topic": suggested "C++11 in LibreOffice"
+ advertising to local C++ groups ?
+ UI paper-cuts instead ? (Michael)
+ might need some talks / to prepare for that ? (Bjoern)
+ Hamburg, Germany: Oct 23rd -> 25th
+ would be great to see everyone there.
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Belgium another candidate ...
* Mentoring Lead position (Bjoern)
+ possible plan to employ someone to do development mentoring at TDF
+ please provide tasks / job description bits.
AI: + send current ideas to dev list & solicit feedback (Bjoern)
* Conference / papers (Michael)
+ it's that time of year again ...
+ Mon - 'unofficial board meetup'
+ Tue - community meetings - ESC or not ?
+ Wed/Thur/Fri - conference.
+ Sat - board meeting
+ much less need for a private ESC meeting (Michael)
+ did this last year (Norbert)
+ last time, dev all in 1x track (Kendy)
+ open meeting in track sounds great (Bjoern)
* l10n Update (Sophie)
+ pootle working nicely.
+ no longer locking up - great.
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ pending / shelved for now - wait 7 weeks.
* Jenkins update (Norbert)
from:Thu Jun 25 14:04:32 2015
master linux rel jobs:168 ok:157 ko:11 fail ratio:6.54% break:6 broken duration:3.11%
master linux dbg jobs:105 ok:98 ko:6 fail ratio:5.71% break:5 broken duration:3.99%
master mac rel jobs:140 ok:132 ko:8 fail ratio:5.71% break:4 broken duration:4.38%
master mac dbg jobs:130 ok:121 ko:9 fail ratio:6.92% break:3 broken duration:3.09%
master win rel jobs:116 ok:106 ko:10 fail ratio:8.62% break:8 broken duration:9.72%
master win dbg jobs:108 ok:103 ko:5 fail ratio:4.62% break:3 broken duration:2.39%
lo-4.4 mac jobs:5 ok:3 ko:2 fail ratio:39.99% break:2 broken duration:32.83%
gerrit win rel jobs:204 ok:128 ko:76 fail ratio:37.25%
gerrit lin rel jobs:208 ok:193 ko:15 fail ratio:7.21%
gerrit mac rel jobs:208 ok:192 ko:16 fail ratio:7.69%
gerrit all jobs:204 ok:119 ko:85 fail ratio:41.66%
+ looking pretty good.
+ all below 10% most below 5% - the 4.4 Mac an anomoly.
+ 40% failing on gerrit: expected.
+ some Windows bug that disappears directories - have to re-boot machines.
+ seems to be triggered by cancelling a stuck build.
+ the state of master is what matters; not gerrit - there to protect master.
* make check / JUnit deadlock fix (Michael S)
+ hopefully avoided the deadlock here
+ should be able to run 'make check' on windows too.
+ more spurious failures on Windows than Linux.
+ no known deadlocks to trigger here.
+ hardware in pipe - online before end of July: more B/W there (Norbert)
+ will try enabling make check on windows then.
* Easy Hacks:
+ new easy-hacks thanks to:
+ <no new easy-hacks>
+ create your own by setting whiteboard to eg.
"easyHack difficultyBeginner skillCpp topicCleanup"
* Regression / Tendering Ideas (Michael)
+ suggest we get them fleshed out & then ESC attendees that care
rank them & send to the board ranked.
AI: + finish the page (Bjoern/Norbert/Noel)
* make check stability (Bjoern)
+ any results for master / 5.0 ?
* QA (Robinson)
+ UNCONFIRMED at 374
+ needAdvice at 11
+ Most Pressing Bugs:
+ priority highest in the last week ...
+ tdf#62717 - FILESAVE: Names Master pages are not saved properly - all change to <name-file>-#
+ apparently very ancient bug -> not interesting here particularly (Michael)
+ pending input from Cor (Robinson)
+ tdf#92398 - soffice.bin goes to 50% kills opensuse13.1
+ IGNORE: Still being triaged
+ tdf#92269 - 126.96.36.199 Win 64 Explorer Crash after single click on any LO file in folder. (shlxthdl.dll / propertyhdl.dll property handler problem?)
+ Cloph has fix prepared for 188.8.131.52 RC
+ tdf#92148 - Math: LibreOffice locks up if the bar on the left is resized
+ "has the potential to lock up the entire desktop"
+ tdf#91495 - Style preview in "Styles and Formatting" sidebar should be optional
+ UX reports: "hoping a checkbox to disable style preview would have been added to the sidebar"
+ The issue started with tdf#90646
AI: + take a look (Kendy)
+ tdf#40550 - EDITING: Text selection with Shift+PageDown broken
+ Status on killing MAB ? (Bjoern)
+ planning after move to Texas (Robinson)
+ pending merge of some of Joel's patches.
* QA stats:
+173 -106 (+67 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Andras Timar 8
Maxim Monastirsky 7
Dennis Roczek 6
Adolfo Jayme 5
Eike Rathke 5
Caolán McNamara 4
Alex Thurgood 3
Robinson Tryon (qubit) 2
Marc Kaulisch 2
Thorsten Behrens 2
Miklos Vajna 2
* Open 5.0 MAB
+ 2/12 2/12 3/12 5/11 6/12 5/11 6/11 5/9 6/9 5/8 5/8 4/7 2/5 0/3 1/3 1/3
* Open 4.4 MAB
+ 12/60 14/61 16/61 17/61 17/61 16/60 19/60 15/56 16/56 15/53 15/53 14/52
* Open 4.3 MAB
+ 64/169 65/169 72/169 73/170 75/170 78/170 77/169 77/169 78/167 79/166
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
+ 310/925 310/921 320/915 330/909 329/898 335/895 333/874 337/869 334/849
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 594(+13) bugs open of 3971(+25) total, 44(+4) high severity
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
Calc - 14 (+1)
Writer - 13 (+4)
LibreOffice - 7 (-1)
Impress - 6 (+1)
Chart - 1 (+0)
filters and storage - 1 (+1)
Base - 1 (+0)
UI - 1 (-2)
+ above as a list: http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
+ complete table: http://bit.ly/1JQ3z4A
* ~Component count net *
Writer - 210 (+5)
Calc - 113 (+4)
Impress - 49 (+2)
Crashes - 47 (+4)
LibreOffice - 39 (-1)
UI - 35 (-1)
Borders - 22 (+0)
graphics stack - 24 (+0)
Draw - 20 (+0)
Base - 19 (+1)
Chart - 12 (+0)
filters and storage - 11 (+1)
Printing / PDF export - 9 (-1)
BASIC - 5 (+1)
Formula Editor - 5 (+0)
framework - 4 (+0)
Extensions - 3 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
Installation - 1 (+0)
Linguistic - 1 (+0)
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