[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-10-28

Jan Holesovsky kendy at collabora.com
Mon Nov 2 06:55:56 PST 2015

* Present: Heiko, Jay, Kendy
* UI changes integrated the last week:

    + icons in the help files (Stephan)
    + improve the thumbnailing of web view in Writer (Kendy)
    + more 32px breeze icons (Andreas)
    + 'restart timer' icons (Andreas)
    + .ui improvements (Jay)
    + Writer table toolbar improvements (Jay)
    + 32px tango icons (Jay)
    + hide InstallableOptions in the print dialog (Michael Weghorn)
    + scrollwheel events in tabbar of sidebar (Bjoern)

* Table styles (Kendy)
    + would be good to have a Friday session about that (Kendy)
        + already collected stuff in a doc (Jay)
        + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FPkf9fn79dXJ5tHpc-meMYxaQpj3nV5sEN6u9HOo2GQ/edit?usp=sharing
        + 9th October, 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC (Kendy)
    + more discussion about the proposal (Jay/Heiko/Kendy)
        + afraid of too many elements there (Heiko)

    + conclusion of further discussions:
        + the dialog will focus on modifying only one style at time
        + added more features (name of the style, summary)
        + resizing: should the properties dialog be resizable?
            + conclusion: non-resizable

    + sidebar
        + in properties, and also in styles & formatting

    + formatting dialog
        + needs the table style too

    + still open (depends on implementation details)
        + can we have styles inheritance?
            + additional dropdown in that case
        + how to switch to different properties?
            + tabs / listbox / buttons possible

* Area Tab design session (Heiko/Jay)
    + Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551
        + not published yet
* Dedicated Design team blog (Heiko)
    + redmine ticket: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1505
        + pending on infra
        + voting feature/plugin
* Bug discussions
    + none this week

* NotebookBar (Samuel)

    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar
        + screenshot - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/f5/Notebookbar-writer.png
        + NotebookBar allows to create toolbars with glade (Samuel/Kendy)
        + full control over widgets in the topmost area, defined via a .ui file
        + an optional thing for users (Samuel)
            + menus + toolbars the default
    + now in master, but hidden via an env. variable (Kendy)

* Help updating (Kendy)
    + new patches, would be great to have a new release (Jay)
        + will do, this time really :-) (Kendy)
    + help-related meta bugs:
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)

    + Should svgs be stored in repo and pngs created at build time (Samuel)
        + Fast svg import hack working (Tomaz)
        + I hacked something similar in the past (Kendy)
            + icons rendered from svg's on LibreOffice startup
            + but had bad results :-(
                + LibreOffice not rendering in good enough quality...
            + but hopefully Tomaž has better experience / approach (Kendy)

    + Icons not appearing in help viewer's web view
        + but fixed now - thanks Stephan! :-)

    + Extra-Large (32x32) Icons for large resolutions
        + Status - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mPqD2gGsMkfVCI6ByUd2XYX1NJm26hcGjRVe6gcCSEU/edit?usp=sharing
        + Integrating it into the options dialog - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95014
            + add a "extra large" entry
        + is this for hi-dpi? (Kendy)
            + no, it is for large screens, but not related to hi-dpi (Jay)

    + still something wrong with inheritance (Jay)
        + Samuel will look at one of them
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866
            + easiest solution: eg. for tango, during build concat tango + galaxy links.txt, and
              put to images_tango.zip
            + one shared links.txt is probably not possible (Jay/Samuel)
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91565
          tango - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115945
          galaxy - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119516

    + Sifr & breeze for dark themes
        + bug report created (Jay)
        + Tomaž pushed the algorithm to create them to master (Tomaž)
            + screenshot - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119614

    + Elementary icon theme added to git by Bjoern (Jay)
        + but not enabled by default
        + images_human.zip to be placed in /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/
        + Human theme in Ubuntu outdated (Jay)

    + Asking Gnome team for help with Tango (Jay)
        + reached out to the Gnome people (Jay)
            + the recent Tango is a mixture of Gnome 2 Tango and Gnome 3 Adwaita (Jay)
            + hoping in some interest there - like there was with Breeze (Jay)

    + Tango (Alex/Adolfo/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
        + First batch of 32px icons added (Jay)
            + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/19616/

    + Sifr (Papamatti/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)

    + Breeze (Andreas/Jay)
        + Latest status of updates available here (Jay)
        + 32px icons completed (Andreas)
          goes into /opt/libreofficedev5.1/share/config/

* Next Friday's design session (Heiko/Jay)

    + Friday session this week (Oct/30)
        + 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC
        +  (Heiko / Jay)

    + List of possible future topics
        + https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiJauFHrSmM5LsaV0AlglhfUh8D1IxAg8qistP0KAQA/edit?usp=sharing

    + Friday session - NotebookBar

    + glade introduction would be useful (Heiko)
        + best practices etc. (Heiko)
        + happy to do that, but cannot this week :-( (Kendy)

* Templates

    + Need code pointers to fix small template thumbnails in start center (Jay)
      screenshot - https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=113301

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