[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of ESC call: 2015-11-19

Jan Holesovsky kendy at collabora.com
Thu Nov 19 12:29:12 PST 2015


* Present:
    + Stephan, Christian, Jan-Marek, Eike, Bubli, Robinson, Kendy, Andras, jan i
      Muthu, Michael S, Thorsten
 
* Completed Action Items:
    + Largo as a hack-fest venue ? chat to Dave (Robinson)
        + Had brief chat; many users available for testing, but few devs.
        + Encouraged investigation of local Universities for new dev blood
            + I'll update ESC later if I hear promising news (Robinson)
 
* Pending Action Items:
    + please cleanup / merge mentoring page (JanI)
        [ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Mentors
          https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/FindTheExpert ]
            + done, no feedback so far, removed 2 experts
    + UserAgent - drop bundled-languages (Michael)
    + UserAgent - produce a patch for review (Michael)
    + come up with a proposal for "abandoned" / "insufficient data"
      resolution in the bug-flow graph (Robinson)
        [ lively discussion, following up, decision by the end of the week ]
    + setup FOSDEM Hackfest wiki page with dates (Bjoern)
        [ focusing on Munich / Madrid ]
    + book FOSDEM conf. room for board meeting (Florian/Bjoern?)
        [ perhaps after not before to avoid hackfest conflict ]
    + run the sw renaming script just before branch-off (Robinson)
        [ will happen after ESC meeting, & when tb's are happy ]
 
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 4.4.7 RC2 - due next week
        + patches waiting for 4.4 and 4.4.7, please review until Monday
        + 5.0.4 anticipated the next week too
    + 5.0.4 status
        + OpenGL default / disable for now:
            + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/19950/
AI          + discussed the last ESC, Cloph will integrate it (Cloph)
        + RC1 / freeze next Monday
    + 5.1.0 branch / feature-freeze: this week.
        + Robinson doing branch + tag.
            + after the ESC, awaiting the green tinderboxes
        + Late Features:
            + OpenGL - switch to simpler double-buffering.
            + Slide Transitions: artwork & polish
                + Jay poking designers for new images
            + UserAgent display & tweakage
            + calc s/w interpreter-related patch
    + Android & iOS Remote
        + will create a new Android Viewer later this week.
        + the build was not stable enough, trying again
            + big & nice improvements by Tomaž (Cloph)
 
* Documentation (Olivier)
    + no news
 
* UX Update (Kendy)
    + lots of interesting ideas around notebookbar, planned a Friday session about that
 
* Crashtest update
    + 1 import failures, 0 export failures, unknown coverity issues -> coverity is down
 
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
    + GNOME hack-fest in Madrid - Dec 2nd -> 4th (Jacobo)
          + sent an invitation to LibreOffice deployments in Spain
              + they may need funding to attend.
              + guy from Valencia confirmed & will come
          + Wiki page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Madrid2015
    + FOSDEM / Beta Co-working (Bjoern)
    + LiMux hackfest end of November (Jan-Marek)
          + Fri 20th - Sun 22nd November 2015
              + this weekend!
              + cooking for 20 people will be easier than for 40...
          + official page https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2015/11/Munich
            to replace the doodle
          + amazon images / cloud needed? (Cloph)
              + not necessary this time, mostly Debian people this time
    + next venues / suggestions
        + considering another Gran Canaria hack-fest (Thorsten)
            + March next year (?)
 
* Mentoring Update (JanI)
    + many new contributors seem not to know how to update/amend a patch (Bubli)
AI      + improve Wiki, write blogpost, promote git-review etc. (JanI)
    + List of developers who have not contributed a while
AI      + discussing whether / how to contact them (JanI)
        + update monthly
        + to see if we can do something for them
    + Gerrit oauth
        + current authentication a hassle (JanI)
        + redmine ticked for that now
    + Gerrit patches, set to abandon?
        + similar to bugs with NEEDINFO (Jan-Marek)
        + worth contacting a reviewer too, to see if the patch is useful or not (Bubli)
        + reply on gerrit goes to all, should do it (Jan-Marek)
        + easy case: patches with -1 where nobody reacts (Eike)
        + for the moment, JanI will contact the gerrit admins to abandon,
          does not have the rights yet (JanI)
 
* l10n Update (Sophie)
    + updated templates with typo fixes (Cloph)
    + nothing special happening (Andras)

* external libraries: mDNSResponder? (Michael S.)
    + checked in to random locations
        + not clear when we include something external
        + potential issue with updates
    + sd/source/ui/remotecontrol/mDNSResponder/
        + http://www.opensource.apple.com/tarballs/mDNSResponder/
        + off by default (Miklos)
AI      + will check & try to move to external/ (Michael S.)
    + onlineupdate/source/libmar/src/ vs. onlineupdate/source/update/src/
        + https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libmar/src
        + IIRC is a fork (Kendy)
AI      + will double-check, remove the duplicate, etc. (Kendy)
    + when there is an up-stream, we should use that (Jan-Marek)
    + makes even the upgrading harder (Michael S.)
        + various easy hackers cleaning that... (Miklos)

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + pending another 4 weeks, will start a new round soon...
 
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
    + [Norbert is traveling]
    + how are the stats for Jenkins generated? (Jan-Marek)
    + just Norbert knows, his playground (Miklos)
    + would be good to get Norberts brain-dump (Thorsten)
AI      + ask Norbert at the next ESC (Thorsten)
 
* Easy Hacks:
    + new easy-hacks thanks to: Michael M., Samuel
        + http://bit.ly/1KR4HWX
    + create your own by setting whiteboard to eg.
            "easyHack difficultyBeginner skillCpp topicCleanup"
    + create new easy hacks from these proposed ones
      (or remove the whiteboard keyword "needsDevEval" if not feasible):
      https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard=needsDevEval
 
* QA update (Robinson)
    + UNCONFIRMED at 475 + 34 bugs in UX-advise
        + Still a good number for UX to help triage
    + needAdvice at 16
 
    + Most Pressing Bugs:
        http://ur1.ca/nkp0t
        + tdf#89034 - Text not being justified in Persian and other RTL languages
            + Very commonly-reported issue
    + anything master / 5.1 related? (Kendy)
        + nothing pressing it seems (Robinson)
 
* QA stats
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html

Querying overall / top bug stats
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
    +142    -134        (+8 overall)
    many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Beluga                26
        Caolán McNamara       11
        Timur                  8
        Adolfo Jayme           8
        Maxim Monastirsky      8
        Alex Thurgood          7
        V Stuart Foote         6
        Xisco Faulí            6
        raal                   5
        Miklos Vajna           4
        Cor Nouws              4
        Julien Nabet           3
        Samuel Mehrbrodt       3
        Eike Rathke            3
        Katarina Behrens (CIB) 2
 
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
        5.0: 10/49 - 20%    -1
        4.4: 11/72 - 15%    +1
        4.3: 6/67   - 8%    +0
        4.2: 11/133 - 8%    +0
        4.1: 4/79   - 5%    +0
        4.0: 11/81  - 13%   +0
        old: 40/247 - 16%   +1
 
* Bibisected bugs open: whiteboard 'bibisected'
  + 335/1103 336/1098 332/1088 341/1089 330/1074 324/1064 322/1047 324/1039
    + http://tdf.io/bibibugs
 
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
        + 713(-5) bugs open of 4419(+34) total 44(-1) high prio.
 
        * ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
                  Calc - 20 (+0)
                Writer - 11 (-1)
           LibreOffice -  7 (+0)
               Impress -  2 (+0)
                    UI -  1 (+1)
        graphics stack -  1 (+0)
            Extensions -  1 (+0)
                  Base -  1 (+0)
                + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
 
        * ~Component   count net * all regressions
                Writer - 236 (-1)
                  Calc - 155 (-1)
               Crashes -  54 (+0)
               Impress -  49 (+1)
           LibreOffice -  47 (-1)
                    UI -  44 (+0)
        graphics stack -  33 (+0)
               Borders -  29 (+0)
                  Base -  24 (+0)
                  Draw -  23 (+1)
   filters and storage -  15 (+0)
                 BASIC -  13 (+0)
Printing and PDF export-  11 (+0)
                 Chart -  10 (+0)
        Formula Editor -   5 (+0)
            Extensions -   3 (+0)
          Installation -   2 (+0)
             framework -   2 (+0)
            Linguistic -   2 (+0)
                   sdk -   1 (+0)
                + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i



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