[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-02-12

Jan Holesovsky kendy at collabora.com
Fri Feb 19 11:48:58 UTC 2016

* Present: Heiko, Stuart, Samuel, Jay, Jan-Marek

* GSoC is close again

    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
        + needs to be filed in until the next Tue
        + Heiko will add the ideas there (/done)
            /done Area Fill, Table Styles, AutText, Bibliography
    + we should file in the tasks that are completed from the design point of view
        + Table styles, Customization dialog, Sidebar, ...
        + design session stuff : table of contents dialog, symbol dialog, fill dialog
        + redesign template manager

AI: Add TOC, Special characters dialog, Templates Manager (Heiko)
          /done Templates Manager, Special Characters, ToC
    + Jay: add a Styles usability improvements section + list the various things to implement to GSoC-next ideas
        + Ahmed, Jay: Brainstorm about some nice / more styles for Calc
          [longer term - maybe better to add to the GSoC Styles task?]
        + Jay: Impress also needs more default object styles (only 2 are available)

* Sidebar max width (Jan-Marek)
    + The side bar currently has a maximum size limit
        + problem for wollmux exension (Jan-Marek)

    + in general, let's give freedom to the extension developers (Kendy)
        + we just need to make sure any random extension does not take over the entire LO :-) (Kendy)
AI:     + put together few screenshots to explain the needs a bit better (Jan-Marek)
        - http://snag.gy/e8550.jpg
        - http://snag.gy/Q6pvY.jpg
        - http://www.wollmux.net/wiki/WollMuxBar#Suchleiste

    + fan of the changes, just need to be careful - fixed size has some merit too (Stuart)
    + having a fixed/minimum value by default and allowing a sidebar extension dev to modify this value through api (Jay)
    + https://www.openoffice.org/api/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/awt/XDockableWindow.html

    + Sidebar Bug Reports (Stuart)
        The Sidebar Meta - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65138

        Sidebar "philosophy" where it needs to go - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33223#c11

        a key feature -- multiple & detatchable decks, and support in profile state

* Update Default font

    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97577

    + Would be useful to change the default font in all apps rather than just impress (Jay)
        + Droid Sans, Serif, Mono (used on Android, available in Google Docs, available in ubuntu 12.04 & debian 6-backports)
        + Noto Sans, Serif, Cousine (droid derivative to fully cover all scripts in unicode, available in ubuntu 14.04 & debian 7)
        + Caladea, Carlito (bundled with LibO, metric compatible with MS Office default fonts, available in ubuntu 14.04 & debian 7-backports)

* Draw-related survey (Heiko)

    + published and continued (will close on Friday, 19 February)

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