[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2016-01-15

Jan Holesovsky kendy at collabora.com
Fri Jan 29 03:27:26 PST 2016

* Present: Stuart, Italo, Heiko

* UI changes integrated since the last meeting:

    + Update of Breeze and Galaxy transition icons (Andreas)
    + Update in the handling of OS X menus (Maxim)
    + SaveModified icon for Tango and Galaxy (Adolfo)
    + Sifr updates (Matthias)

* Impress - Modes Tab bar
    + http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/msg07525.html

    + Setting of modes tab bar is not persistent 
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97119 is being fixed by bubli according IRC communication
        + META: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95983 for issues related to this refactoring

    + Workflow needs improvement (Italo)
        + Power users switch frequently between page and slide sorter (Italo)
            + Even Benjamin would be kind of an expert in Impress since the gap between novice and experts are small here (Italo)
        + Fixing the bug solves the issue since Eve would enable the modes tab bar once and forever (Cor)
        + Adding shortcuts like Cltr+Shft+M for norMal and Ctrl+Shft+T sorT (Cor)
        + Hiding by default to spare vertical space, easy access via split button in toolbar (Stuart)
        + Not enough user testing; Impress power users will not hide this tabs bar (Italo, Michel)
        + Show by default until we found a better solution (Samuel)
        + Find a better place for the toolbar split button for instance next to format pages (Italo, Sophie, Michel)
        + Last choice of the split button's selection has to be stored (Sophie)
        + Acceptance of changes is a matter of communication (Sophi)
          part of that being to increase use of our MozTrap guided testing cases

    + Master slides are too easy to access making it dangerous for beginners (could edit master instead of pages) (Italo)
        + Enterprise  environment blocks editing of master slides; remove master slides from split button widget (Italo)
        + Blocking is not so easy, e.g. "Set background image > To all pages" affects the master (Cor)
        + Does not introduces new great dangers for corporate use in the Netherlands but definitely an issue for Italy (Cor)
        + No good visual cue for master vs. normal (black/gray) (Italo)
        + Hide master slides behind a menu as how masters are handled by PowerPoint and Keynote  (Italo, Cor)

    + Opt-in for the modes tab bar (current master) or shown by default
        + off by default (Heiko)
        + on by default, or when it is off then have the toggle on/off button on the toolbar (Italo, Stuart)
        + transition time: on for now, off from the next release on (Stuart, Italo)
    + Show the toggle display-modes-tab button on toolbar solves everything (Italo)
        + Feature is used only once and should go into the main menu view settings (Heiko)
        + Agree with keeping it as it for now is and we explain the changes to people (Italo)

    + Where to place the toolbar split button?
        + next to other slide functions (Italo, Heiko)
        + enable view on/off and move both buttons to the right end of the standard toolbar (Stuart)

    + Store selected mode for the next session?
        + Sure (Heiko)
    + Change access to master slides?
        + Improve yes, but in future release (Heiko, Italo)
    + Move buttons to presentation toolbar, right hand of standard docked (Michel, Stuart)
        +  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:Michelr/Impress51_group_buttons
           has some cross over with tdf#89668 -- SLIDE PANE: Move slide manipulation buttons to the bottom of the pane
        +  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89668
           and with tdf#87672 -- Moving Impress view tabs to slide pane 

    + Conclusion:
        + Hide the tabs bar by default
        + Show toggle display tabs bar button in the toolbar
        + But then hide the toggle button from realease 5.2 on (aiding transition)
        + Move display modes split button and the toggle tabs bar button to the right edge of the standard toolbar
        + Store last user setting
        + Think about changing access to master slides for 5.x

* Marketing wants a new name for "notebook bar" interface (Italo)
    + Present the user interface for LibreOffice (Italo)
    + there are multiple interface form factors for users

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