[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
Michael Meeks
michael.meeks at collabora.com
Fri Jan 13 14:03:12 UTC 2017
Sorry for the delay.
* Present
+ Stephan, Andras, Caolan, Heiko, JanI, Kendy, Olivier, Xisco, Michael M,
Sophie, Christian, Lionel, Norbert, Thorsten, Bubli, Michael S, Eike,
Jan-Marek, Bjoern
* Completed Action Items:
+ write to Aron & Heiko to welcome to committing (Kendy)
+ poke Florian to encourage posting of Macs (Cloph/Michael)
+ have a look at certification names again (Kendy)
* Pending Action Items:
+ produce a trend / graph of last year’s work (JanI)
+ September – September numbers here https://conference.libreoffice.org/assets/Conference/Brno/iversen-development-mentoring.pdf
+ investigate https://beta.opendocumentformat.org/testsets/all/en (Xisco)
[ https://gitlab.com/odfplugfest/odfserver
More progress still waiting for Jos’ help ]
* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.2.5 RC1 schedule acceleration ?
+ fixes for both regressions in 5.2
+ builds done, tagging finished, up-loading underway.
+ should we do an RC1 release as final ?
+ Markus’ patches in the release & sensible (Xisco)
+ concern wrt. rushing things (Thorsten)
+ does waiting one week make sense ? (Xisco)
=> test over the weekend – recide RC2 or release on Tuesday (Xisco)
+ 5.3.0 RC2 update
+ bug in RC1 not being signed; patch from Tor to fix it.
+ would be a blocker for RC2 if we can’t confirm it is fixed.
+ REMINDER: please update with your features ASAP:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.3
+ Updated Marketing in TDF call (Sophie)
+ Android & iOS Remote (Cloph)
+ new build in the beta channel needing promotion to production.
+ online (Michael)
AI: + remove textwrap patch for 5.3 ? (Thorsten)
* MSDN license situation (Michael)
+ no responses from Microsoft
+ MSDN costs O($1000)/year → for one person.
+ Visual Studio is now free.
+ get Development budget line-item for buying MS / Windows licenses ?
+ not enthusiastic (Norbert)
+ Happy for OS licenses - $100 for VMs (Michael)
+ all CI builds are at 2012 and working (Norbert)
+ expected that legacy MSDN licenses are perpetual anyway (Michael)
=> no urgent action required.
+ want to pin-down the use-cases, instead of “because we used this stuff before” (Bjoern)
=> ask for $1k for Windows licenses.
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ 3 days healing food intoxication, low productivity.
+ Many help page errors fixed after translator noticed.
+ XHP + gerrit very hard/impossible to catch typos, dups, etc..
+ More help pages fixed by Gabor Kelemen (reconnecting UI with HC)
+ Some pages completely rewritten (bad english) (Olivier)
+ Investigating more developments for HC – next-gen.
* Mac development H/W (Thorsten)
+ Sophie working on getting Macs.
+ best if TDF buys them – to have invoice with TDF name on it.
+ high-res 4k screen for Caolan
+ just buy it & get a TDF on the invoice line.
=> put this in the budget: QA team high-res display too (Xisco)
* my screen is 4K (MAC) and I can test on demand. (janI)
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
252(252) (topicUI) bugs open, 487(487) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 4(2) 13(3) 40(-1) 506(0)
commented 46(-29) 242(-43) 846(-69) 3707(8)
removed 0(-1) 1(0) 9(-4) 34(0)
resolved 5(-8) 30(-2) 99(-5) 160(4)
+ top 10 contributors:
Tietze, Heiko made 128 changes in 1 month, and 1930 changes in 1 year
Foote, V Stuart made 52 changes in 1 month, and 664 changes in 1 year
Buovjaga made 31 changes in 1 month, and 356 changes in 1 year
Cor Nouws made 31 changes in 1 month, and 445 changes in 1 year
Iversen, Jan made 24 changes in 1 month, and 472 changes in 1 year
Zolnai, Tamás made 16 changes in 1 month, and 19 changes in 1 year
tommy27 made 13 changes in 1 month, and 82 changes in 1 year
Schäfe,r Christoph made 10 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
Philips, Yousuf made 10 changes in 1 month, and 1648 changes in 1 year
Kelemen, Gabor made 9 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
+ talking about Breeze as default icon set on Windows
+ G+ poll reveals ~65% acceptance, but rejected as it’s not a perfect fit
+ area style dialop patch with fix size reverted because of whitespace and
hi-res trouble
+ now the controls are badly aligned again
+ new issue created as MAB tdf#105259
+ Beluga: can’t be fixed before 5.3
+ asking for help with glade (Heiko)
+ even the simple reverting is risky (Xisco)
+ we need to fix the dialog (Heiko)
+ fixing and testing in one week not possible (Xisco)
=> revert the patch in 5.3 & fix in 5.4.
AI: do the revert and do it in 5.4 (Xisco)
* Crashtest update (Caolan)
+ 2 import failure, 0 export failures
+ 5 coverity issues.
+ Google / ossfuzz
+ ongoing; gone with Markus’ suggestion – fixes linger in gerrit.
+ various bits in 5.2 and 5.3 we’ll wait for
+ recently opened issues were fixed 5 days before last meeting.
+ bug reports include only the stack; not the bug docs which helps
* TDF / Budgeting / Brainstorming (Thorsten)
+ Ranking ~deadline for:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2017
+ ‘online’ - ranking spreadsheet exists now.
https://demo.collaboracloudsuite.com/tdf/index.php/apps/richdocuments/index#719_%2FESC%20minutes
+ please rank things – add yourself if you don’t have a column
+ please look at the time estimate – we don’t have a ton of budget.
+ Real deadline is next Monday – board / budget meeting.
+ Can copy the average and bump up and down ones you care about (Bjoern)
+ try not to rename items to avoid breaking SS links.
* FOSDEM (JanI)
+ dev-room:
+ https://fosdem.org/2017/schedule/track/open_document_editors/
+ hack-fest wiki page is:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/FOSDEM2017
+ Add: Bubli & Armin, Michael, Kendy, Andras, Heiko?, Xisco, Jmux, Olivier.
+ times:
+ 3rd Feb 2017 - board (+MC) meetings.
+ 4th/5th Feb 2017 - core FOSDEM dates
+ 6th/7th Feb 2017 - Hackfest at Beta Coworking.
+ 6th starting 9:30 – infra f2f
+ http://www.bedfordhotelcongresscentre.com/
* Hackfests (Bjoern)
+ next venues / suggestions
+ Italian hack-fest coming up: 4 days May 27-30th
+ Perugia University
+ successful students get course credits
+ expect 15+ experienced students.
+ Osvaldo helping out.
+ janI prepares a presentation + handon exercise pr day
+ planning to go if he can (Bjoern)
* mentoring/easyhack update (janI)
+ openhub statistics (2016-11-29), 284(284) people did 15495(15495) commits in 12 month in 8301307(8301307) lines of code
+ gerrit/git statistics:
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 49(14) 71(3) 80(-6) 82(-6)
reviews 554(170) 1629(36) 3925(158) 17631(-130)
merged 195(-17) 838(-15) 2585(47) 8984(-25)
abandoned 16(12) 36(7) 130(14) 634(15)
own commits 61(-31) 318(-303) 3314(-402) 17479(-314)
review commits 1(1) 38(-79) 544(-102) 3516(-90)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 32(0) 57(2) 58(-5) 59(-4)
reviews 523(89) 1699(-60) 4966(21) 17985(-243)
merged 30(-5) 113(-4) 301(-8) 1245(-47)
abandoned 12(10) 39(6) 66(-2) 384(-18)
own commits 1(1) 2(-27) 201(-43) 1199(-67)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 22(22) needsUXEval 4(4) cleanup_comments 187(187)
total 227(227) assigned 21(21) open 180(180)
+ top 5 contributors:
Very few commits during my vacation
+ top 5 reviewers:
Iversen, Jan made 208 review comments in 1 month, and 1665 in 1 year
Mohrhard, Markus made 178 review comments in 1 month, and 1788 in 1 year
Timar, Andras made 112 review comments in 1 month, and 432 in 1 year
Rathke, Eike made 110 review comments in 1 month, and 1345 in 1 year
Stahl, Michael made 79 review comments in 1 month, and 1108 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Gairola, Siddhartha siddhartha.gairola18 at gmail.com
+ gitdm-config in review, daily control active
+ create redmine for VM to new contributors
+ https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2136
+ IDE-vs2013 project plan for the italian students (step by step tasks)
+ Request from Osvaldo who got OK from my manager
+ Mentoring Italian students on: Project definition:
“Update the IDE generator (gbuild-to-ide and associated files) for LibreOffice, to provide 1 VS2013 solution:
- view/Edit all source les (c++, c#, lex, yacc, py, NO java)
- be able to build/debug without using command line
- running make or IDE in a module produces the same workdir content
- black listed modules are build using a call to “make <module>” (external build system)
- only one configuration (autogen.input) is tested
- allow use of git in the IDE to submit to gerrit ”
* make 3.81 (Michael S)
+ Debian has a newer make now.
+ can we drop support and require 3.82?
+ 3.81 and 3.82 have different interpretation of pattern rules.
+ hard to ensure that they do the same thing in both versions.
+ would love to drop support for 3.81
+ does anyone need to build 5.4 with an ancient make version.
+ Mac comes with 3.81 (Cloph)
+ but fine with dropping support for it.
+ if people build with lode – they get a current make anyway (Michael S)
+ recommended (JanI)
+ Rene ? (Norbert)
+ he doesn’t believe anyone would want to build 5.4 on Wheezy: (Michael S)
+ people can build gnumake 4.0 on older platforms (Bjoern)
=> drop it for master.
* crash reporter news (Markus)
+ http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/5.3.0.1
* Commit Access
+ Wastack / btomi96 at gmail.com / Tamas Bunth (Lionel)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/owner:wastack (janI)
+ commits are looking great (Lionel)
AI: + send welcome & scope mail (Lionel)
+ Raal / Crhonek, Zdeněk (janI)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/q/owner:%22Zdenek+Crhonek+%253Czcrhonek%2540gmail.com%253E%22 (Markus + janI)
+ lots of nice calc / test commits
AI: + send welcome mail & scope – for tests (JanI)
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
+ come up with three names
=> no objections – next step approach them.
* Jenkins / CI update (Norbert)
from:Thu Jan 5 15:46:09 2017
master linux rel jobs: 190 ok: 180 ko: 10 fail ratio: 5.26 % break: 1 broken duration: 7.23%
master linux dbg jobs: 131 ok: 116 ko: 15 fail ratio: 11.45 % break: 6 broken duration:10.00%
master mac rel jobs: 166 ok: 154 ko: 12 fail ratio: 7.23 % break: 3 broken duration: 8.80%
master mac dbg jobs: 166 ok: 154 ko: 11 fail ratio: 6.63 % break: 3 broken duration: 8.12%
master win rel jobs: 130 ok: 120 ko: 10 fail ratio: 7.69 % break: 4 broken duration:10.65%
master win dbg jobs: 130 ok: 115 ko: 15 fail ratio: 11.54 % break: 7 broken duration: 8.43%
master win64 dbg jobs: 138 ok: 123 ko: 12 fail ratio: 8.70 % break: 4 broken duration: 6.40%
lo-5.2 mac jobs: 17 ok: 17 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
lo-5.1 mac jobs: 0 ok: 0 ko: 0 fail ratio: 0.00 % break: 0 broken duration: 0.00%
branch gerrit all jobs: 17 ok: 14 ko: 3 fail ratio:17.65%
master gerrit lin jobs: 350 ok: 262 ko: 87 fail ratio:24.86%
master gerrit plg jobs: 349 ok: 245 ko: 102 fail ratio:29.23%
master gerrit win jobs: 348 ok: 197 ko: 149 fail ratio:42.82%
master gerrit mac jobs: 351 ok: 224 ko: 125 fail ratio:35.61%
master gerrit all jobs: 373 ok: 134 ko: 233 fail ratio:62.47%
+ why is gerrit failing on 5.3 checkouts ? (Eike)
+ claiming there is a non-fast-fwd modification (Norbert)
+ trying to check / clean everything as we go.
+ patching manually shows no problem; unclear.
+ been fetching / git gc / cleaning everywhere to help.
+ if machines are still failing ask Norbert for help.
+ numbers not great: may be CI issues itself (Norbert)
* l10n (Sophie)
+ going on – as Olivier said, lots of changes in help → fuzzy strings.
+ would love to have more proof-reading before committing of Help.
* QA update (Xisco)
+ Unconfirmed was at 510 this morning, but down again.
+ UNCONFIRMED: 476 (+10)
+ enhancements: 38 (0)
+ needsUXEval: 4 (+2)
+ haveBackTrace: 14 (-4)
+ needsDevAdvice: 43 (-2)
+ Documentation: 7 (+7)
AI: + Can Olivier look at Documentation unconfirmed bugs ? (Olivier)
AI: + setup bibisect repository for 4.3 with Norbert (Xisco)
AI: + give authorization to Xisco on jenkins in-person @ FOSDEM (Norbert)
+ Most Pressing Bugs: http://tdf.io/mostressingbugs
+ Open
+ MacOS main package – no longer signed
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104915
+ perhaps just dev builds ?
+ should be fixed by Tor.
+ Crash in: ScPostIt::CreateCaption(ScAddress const &,SdrCaptionObj const *)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105055
+ results in hang on re-load.
+ Firebird: Trying to close Firebird-DB without saving leads to hang of LO
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105062
+ Crash when closing LibreOffice after opening Master Pages deck in SfxModule::GetResMgr()
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105188
+ Crash when Click "Add Separator" in Customize Toolbox / Crash in: SvxConfigPage::InsertEntry(SvxConfigEntry *,SvTreeListEntry *,bool), cuilo.dll
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105014
+ Fix in Gerrit: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/32987/
+ Crash when click a "New Theme..." in Gallery on detached SideBar
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105017
+ 3 months old regression ( 5.3 and master )
+ Fixed:
+ Crash exiting writer after copying to clipboard
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104830
+ Fixed thanks to Markus → back-ported to -5-2.
+ Calc crash in navigator
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104919
+ 3 months old regression ( 5.3 and master )
+ thanks to Caolan.
+ Writer crash when adding a textbox and undo
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105009
+ 3 years old regression (5.2, 5.3 and master )
+ thanks to Michael Stahl.
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+164 -153 (+11 overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Telesto 13
Aron Budea 9
V Stuart Foote 9
Xisco Faulí 8
Miklos Vajna 5
Heiko Tietze 5
tommy27 5
Buovjaga 5
jan iversen 4
Justin L 4
Regina Henschel 3
Maxim Monastirsky 3
Winfried Donkers 3
Timur 3
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Telesto 13
Kevin Suo 6
gmarco 6
Latini, Marina 5
Budea, Áron 5
grofaty 4
Jim Avera 4
Xisco Faulí 4
bordfeldt 4
john 3
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Iversen, Jan 5
Justin L 4
Stahl, Michael 4
Rathke, Eike 3
Andras Timar 3
Vajna, Miklos 3
McNamara, Caolán 3
Xisco Faulí 2
Budea, Áron 2
Kelemen, Gabor 2
* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
5.3: ?/?? - 15%
5.2: 4/26 - 15%
5.1: 1/32 - 3%
5.0: 3/57 - 5%
4.4: 4/73 - 5%
4.3: 4/70 - 5%
4.2: 6/132 - 4%
4.1: 3/79 - 3%
4.0: 4/81 - 4%
old: 27/249 - 10%
+ http://bit.ly/2dp3mwC
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ 338/1187 320/1161 310/1143 305/1116 305/1101 303/1087 292/1061
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+ Done by:
Xisco Faulí 13
Budea, Áron 6
Justin L 2
Raal 2
Terrence Enger 1
Kevin Suo 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ 410/1727 395/1700 389/1680 382/1651 381/1633 378/1618 366/1593
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+ Done by:
Xisco Faulí 13
Budea, Áron 5
Justin L 3
Kevin Suo 3
Raal 2
Terrence Enger 1
Timur 1
Benes, Luke 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 760(+1) bugs open of 5626(+20) total 15(-1) high prio.
+ Done by:
Xisco Faulí 9
Telesto 4
Justin L 3
Buovjaga 3
Budea, Áron 3
Kevin Suo 2
Timur 1
Benes, Luke 1
m.a.riosv 1
Alex Thurgood 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
LibreOffice - 6 (+1)
Writer - 3 (+0)
Calc - 2 (+0)
Base - 2 (+0)
Impress - 2 (-1)
Draw – 0 (-1)
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
by OS:
+ Mac - 6
+ All - 5
+ Windows - 3
+ Linux - 2
* ~Component count net * all regressions
Writer: other - 133 (+0)
Calc - 118 (+1)
Impress - 71 (-4)
Writer: docx - 67 (+3)
LibreOffice - 58 (+2)
UI - 43 (+0)
Writer: doc - 39 (+0)
Crashes – 36 (+1)
graphics stack - 35 (+1)
Borders - 33 (+1)
Base - 31 (-1)
Draw – 29 (-2)
Writer: filter – 25 (-1)
filter / storage – 20 (+0)
Chart - 16 (+0)
print / PDF export - 13 (+0)
Writer: perf - 18 (-1)
BASIC - 10 (+0)
framework - 3 (+0)
Extensions - 2 (+0)
Installation - 1 (+0)
sdk - 1 (+0)
Formula Editor - 1 (+0)
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
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