[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

Michael Meeks michael.meeks at collabora.com
Thu Dec 20 21:09:43 UTC 2018


* Present:
    + Kendy, Miklos, Xisco, Sophie, Caolan, Michael S, Michael M,
      Olivier, Heiko, Christian, Jan-Marek

* Completed Action Items:
    + reach out to Zotero (Michael)
      [ not obvious how to move ahead; technology & license (AGPL)
        installed it (Heiko)
           + Java - 100Mb install, connectors to different apps
           + LibreOffice connector – as an extension ]
    + blog poll with ~50/50 acceptance to drop bibliography (Heiko)
      [ some accept getting rid of it, others say minimum func.
        makes sense for basic users without online connection.
        Could do a GSOC project (Samuel volunteered) ]

* Pending Action Items:
    + work with Mert to build an android l10n plan (Christian)
      [ didn’t connect with him yet ] 
    + mail BoD wrt. MS store update (Christian)
    + add screenshot builder to basic build stats (Christian)
      [ it fails with Japanese locale – but it’s not in the translation
        can build with all of these – and build runs fine, but with just
        ja it fails – needs further research  ]

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
    + 6.1.4 RC2 status
    + 6.2 RC 1 status
      + ready for the bug hunting Friday tomorrow.
    + 6.2 RC 2 – due week 2 – Jan 17th  
      + still require 1 review for libreoffice-6-2
      + libreoffice-6-2-0 after RC2.
      + Late Features
         + red-lining paragraph attribute re-work (Thorsten)
            + merged into master & 6.2 branch in time for RC1
            + except for document indexes – still being worked on
              which should be finished by tomorrow.
            + is it enabled by default ? (Xisco) 
                 + yes enabled by default (Michael S)
    + Remotes
    + Android viewer
      + will provide a new version to the app store but no up-loaded yet.
 + Online
    + 6.2 rc1 source up-loaded.

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + New Help
        + Added <pycode> for proper rendering of python code (ohallot)
        + Work on online editor: render XHP page while editing (ohallot)
    + Help contents2
        + many fixes by translators (S. Horacek, Sabri Unai, ohallot)
        + miscellaneous fixes (erAck, ohallot)
        + additions and corrections for Basic and Python pages (libreofficiant)
        + Issue: How to add menus and toolbars for new UIs such as:
            Notebook bar, simple bar, grouped bars, etc.
           + Huge work to describe UNO commands in new UIs. 
           + each page describes where a tool is eg. “menu → format → character”
           + considering all the cmds in an interface – quite a lot of work.
           + also confusing to list several (Michael)
              + the resulting is the same but the way to get it different.
              + should be able to do it programatically from
                .uno:Format to a path in the UI.
           + menu never changes (Heiko)
              + help on notebookbars – perhaps just drop that.
              + concerned about the workflow around notebookbar,
                too many options in the UI – and not close to usability.
              + we have five variants of similar UIs – which goes in &
                is documented ?
                + development of new ones is easy.
              + propose to ship 1, not an arbitrary number of them.
         + making it an extension kills it (Michael)
            + few people install them
            + why should that be ? (Heiko)
               + practically it is – fixing that is hard (Michael)
         + if we get XML somewhere – can get it on pages (Olivier)
            + right transformation to find the files & simplify docs here.
         + in the end it is all .uno:Foo commands (Kendy)
            + menu/toolbar/sidebar
AI:         + send some quick code pointers to Olivier (Kendy)
    + Guides.
        + Updates ongoing on Calc guides

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        259(259) (topicUI) bugs open, 278(278) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months   12 months  
             added      4(-6)     19(-3)     61(-1)     102(-1) 
         commented     35(-21)   147(-19)   435(-1)    1444(-8) 
           removed      1(1)       6(0)       9(1)       13(1)  
          resolved      3(2)       7(1)      22(0)      111(-1) 
    + top 10 contributors:
          Tietze, Heiko made 92 changes in 1 month, and 547 changes in 1 year
          Xisco Faulí made 37 changes in 1 month, and 284 changes in 1 year
          Foote, V Stuart made 32 changes in 1 month, and 227 changes in 1 year
          Pedro made 32 changes in 1 month, and 91 changes in 1 year
          dieterp made 24 changes in 1 month, and 122 changes in 1 year
          Thomas Lendo made 21 changes in 1 month, and 353 changes in 1 year
          kompilainenn made 21 changes in 1 month, and 61 changes in 1 year
          himajin100000 made 9 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
          eisa01 made 8 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
          Cathy Crumbley made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
     + New needsUXEval between Dec/12-18

        * Wrong toolbar icon colors make difficult to recognize them
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121956
          => WF

        * Make presentation layouts editable
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112002
          => NEW/in discussion
          + no proposal yet – but would like user defined layouts
            for presentations – perhaps a GSOC topic.

        * default padding around Images
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122063
          + good idea to have more than 0 around images.

        * Compatibility mode setting for Justified text terminated with
          linebreak (<shift>+<enter>)...
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121984
          => accepted
          + plan to change this option to be less like Microsoft
            + concerned if we move in a positive direction
              compat wise (Miklos)
        + if it breaks interop. it should go off by default (Michael M, Miklos)
            + even if it looks pretty (sorry).

        * Show index entries which are names as "<last name>, <first name>" 
          in alphabetical indexes
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122124
          + needs a new field / feature – perhaps GSOC project.
          => needsDevAdvice

        * Update Liberation fonts from new source
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121676
          => Fixed with https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/65297/ in 6.2 RC1
          => Liberation updated from 2.00.1 to 2.00.4 and 
             Liberation-Narrow from 1.07.4 to 1.07.6

        * Blog post to fine-tune special characters
          + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2018/12/14/special-characters-the-final-touch/
        * Blog post to drop bibliography
          + https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2018/12/19/save-the-bibliography/

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
    + 6(-4) import failures, 0(-3) export failures
    + 8 (+0) coverity issues
        + one build went through (or so it claimed)
        + next build stuck in the queue there, 180+ ahead initially, now 170+
          + last 4 days queue got shorter but not much.  
    + 17 Google / ossfuzz: 16 timeouts.
        + 1 serious, lots of timeout issues
            + perhaps reduce size of what is fuzzed up to 0.5Mb not 1Mb eg. 
    + ForcePoint, round 9
        + two asserts/crashes on using crashtester over round 9
    + couple of other issues
        + two CVE issues in progress for Jan 2019
    + CNA process fun
    + PVS Studio

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.0.7.3
         + 745 (last 7 days) (+80)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.2.1
         + 2744 (last 7 days) (+94)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.3.2
         + 2738 (last 7 days) (-272)
    + http://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.1.4.2
         + 166 (last 7 days) (-)
    + 6.1.4.2 released this week; so far looks good.
         + no new crash regression we can see.

* FOSDEM
   + did you submit your talk !?
   + https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2018/12/15/ode-devroom-fosdem-2019/
   + https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM19 
   + short deadline: Dec 24th pending:
      + how LibreOffice release engineering works (Christian)
      + improving LibreOfficce quality together (Xisco)

* Hackfests & Events (Thorsten)
   + next year hackfests coming up:
	+ FOSDEM in February 2nd
          + correction from last week
          + Wed/Thur- 2 days ~3 days before the conference confirmed.
          + lots going on on Friday there
          + Add yourself to the dinner / hackfest wiki page:
              + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2019/FOSDEM
	+ Tirana perhaps in March/April
	+ Paris in summer
	+ tentative Dresden: late autumn (past mid-October, for having students)
   + hope to have one each quarter.    
   + GSoC’19
     + https://opensource.googleblog.com/2018/11/google-summer-of-code-15-years-strong.html
        + project signup starts to open Jan 15th
     + do another 100 paper cuts project ? (Heiko)
        + developers, QA, etc. listed – and student picked a few & solve.
        + not a great success.
        + not a full GSOC project – could be part of paper-cuts.
           + if say – we want to solve it: decide what procedue here.
           + nothing to finalize
           + suggest a dev to oversee it – who ? (Michael)
     + good to come up with good ideas / design plans for the wiki (Thorsten)
	  + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
        + Heiko / Xisco as org. admins ?
        + trouble with decision of what projects ? (Heiko)
           + based on mentor power and student quality (Thorsten)

* C++ lectures ( Xisco )
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/C%2B%2BLectures
   + 1st session retrospective ...
      + More info: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2018/12/05/learn-c-with-the-help-of-libreoffice-developers/
      + had 6-7 students, and recorded it 
   + 2nd session: TODAY at 19:00
      + https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2018/12/18/coming-up-on-december-20-next-c-workshop/
      + today – the 2nd one. Publish in Social media.
      + on input/output streams and how to build LibreOffice

* mentoring/easyhack update
          committer...   1 week       1 month      3 months     12 months   
                  open       48(-18)      96(-8)       101(-8)      111(-8) 
               reviews     1550(11)     5545(262)    13566(262)   36838(766)
                merged      329(-52)    1546(99)      3853(16)    15352(-60)
             abandoned       14(1)        61(0)        242(6)       936(-7) 
           own commits      258(-215)   1506(-127)    4327(-54)   15660(-90)
        review commits      126(-78)     497(28)      1055(77)     3914(59) 
        contributor...   1 week    1 month    3 months   12 months    
                  open      24(3)     40(-15)    42(-17)      43(-17) 
               reviews     111(64)   275(36)    473(32)    17066(-617)
                merged      54(15)   158(5)     389(32)     1635(21)  
             abandoned      16(10)    30(14)     74(11)      302(13)  
           own commits      80(32)   208(28)    463(58)     1623(59)  
        review commits       0(0)      0(0)       0(0)         0(0)   
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 63(63)   needsUXEval 3(3)   cleanup_comments 238(238)   
       total 300(300)   assigned 20(20)   open 210(210)   
    + top 10 contributors:
          Gelmini, Andrea made 50 patches in 1 month, and 545 patches in 1 year
          Sophia Schröder made 44 patches in 1 month, and 205 patches in 1 year
          sabri unal made 18 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
          Dmitriy Shilin made 15 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
          Alain Romedenne made 10 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
          Illarionov, Arkadiy made 9 patches in 1 month, and 48 patches in 1 year
          Johnny_M made 8 patches in 1 month, and 107 patches in 1 year
          Matthias Seidel made 7 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
          Aleksei Nikiforov made 6 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
          Balazs Varga made 4 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Behrens, Thorsten made 162 review comments in 1 month, and 1483 in 1 year
          McNamara, Caolán made 149 review comments in 1 month, and 1059 in 1 year
          Bergmann, Stephan made 126 review comments in 1 month, and 717 in 1 year
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 109 review comments in 1 month, and 1029 in 1 year
          Grandin, Noel made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 1282 in 1 year
          Nabet, Julien made 105 review comments in 1 month, and 1043 in 1 year
          Xisco Faulí made 96 review comments in 1 month, and 475 in 1 year
          Behrens, Katarína made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 525 in 1 year
          Vajna, Miklos made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 1298 in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 85 review comments in 1 month, and 453 in 1 year
    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Sumit Chauhan sumitcn25 at gmail.com 
* Commit Access

* ODF Toolkit update (Michael S)
    + initial import here: https://github.com/tdf/odftoolkit 
    + currently working with Dave to transfer domain
    + Dennis is converting existing website from weird format → wiki.
      to make it maintainable.

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Bjoern/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + proposed three names, discussing them.

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
    from:Thu Dec 13 14:59:54 2018
    master linux rel  jobs: 179 ok: 152 ko:  27 fail ratio: 15.08 % break:   4 broken duration: 9.14%
    master linux dbg  jobs: 139 ok: 123 ko:  16 fail ratio: 11.51 % break:   4 broken duration: 6.69%
    master mac rel    jobs: 131 ok: 128 ko:   3 fail ratio:  2.29 % break:   3 broken duration: 2.70%
    master mac dbg    jobs: 134 ok: 133 ko:   1 fail ratio:  0.75 % break:   1 broken duration: 0.13%
    master win rel    jobs: 101 ok:  66 ko:  35 fail ratio: 34.65 % break:  22 broken duration:37.67%
    master win dbg    jobs: 103 ok:  71 ko:  32 fail ratio: 31.07 % break:  25 broken duration:30.20%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:  98 ok:  80 ko:  18 fail ratio: 18.37 % break:  16 broken duration:19.66%
    lo-5.3 mac        jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    lo-5.4 mac        jobs:   0 ok:   0 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 518 ok: 441 ko:  20 fail ratio:  3.86% time for ok: mean:  19 median:  18
    master gerrit plg jobs: 529 ok: 398 ko:  52 fail ratio:  9.83% time for ok: mean:  35 median:  32
    master gerrit win jobs: 561 ok: 379 ko:  82 fail ratio: 14.62% time for ok: mean:  76 median:  74
    master gerrit mac jobs: 527 ok: 419 ko:  23 fail ratio:  4.36% time for ok: mean:  52 median:  28
    master gerrit all jobs: 403 ok: 245 ko: 105 fail ratio: 26.05% time for ok: mean: 115 median: 105
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_181220.html 
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
      3 UITest_search_replace
      4 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter
      4 CppunitTest_sw_uwriter
      5 UITest_cui_dialogs
      6 CppunitTest_vcl_complextext
   + normalized again – cases where clang builds run out of resources
   + new Mac Mini (2018) is hooked up to Jenkins (tb82)
     + also has Virtualbox with a linux VM that does gcc/release builds
     + performance wise: same as the Mac Pros from Feb – and cost 50% of price 

* l10n (Sophie)
    + several patches from Sophia on help files
    + translation going on
    + LOOL files updated

* Next ESC meeting ? (Xisco)
    + propose missing 27th & 3rd ESC calls → have a break !

* QA update (Xisco)

    + Third & last BHS for LibreOffice 6.2
    	+ https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2018/12/17/coming-up-on-december-21-bug-hunting-session-for-libreoffice-6-2-rc-1/
	+ TOMORROW, friday, 21, December

    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
        https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

    + UNCONFIRMED: 487 (+16)
        + enhancements: 66  (+4)
        + needsUXEval: 3 (+1)
        + haveBackTrace: 2 (-1)
        + needsDevAdvice: 16 (+0)
        + documentation:  7 (+0)
        + android:  10 (+0)
    + Most pressing bugs:
        + New
            + PRINTING Crash calling print config dialog in specific case
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121439
                + Tomaz V

            + Crash in: libsclo.so Copy block of cells to clipboard with focus
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121949
                + luboš luňák

        + Older
            + LibreOffice not usable; opens OK but crashes entering
              data on macOS 10.14.1 Mojave
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121778
                + Tor is looking into it, published a ver → looking again.
                + ‘fixed’ by building with an older XCode but .. will return 
                + happens in the normal Mac build as well. 
            + Crash in: SwFrame::PrepareMake(OutputDevice *) 
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119126
                + Miklos ? - lots of crashes in crash reporter.
            + Can't edit file on samba shares
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115747
                    + lots of feedback on ‘ask’ about this (Mike K)
                    + juergen funk ? Workaround not working around.
            + Crash after accepting all changes from compared documents
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109376
                + M. Stahl ? Two different crashes (?)
            + Crashes on UNDO
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120754
                + dtardon / Caolan. Its an extension, so I'm guessing that
                  one of the steps is outside undo control
            + Crash in: SwIndex::SwIndex(SwIndexReg * const,long)
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119989
                + bisected to Ash

            + Calc: Crash when cutting some content
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118707
                + Henry Castro → Lubos looking at it.

        + Fixed
            + Crash applying bold to textbox control
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120750
                + revert thanks to Xisco – tdf#96248 re-open ?

            + GTK3: Crash displaying menus with new elements
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121555
                + Thanks to Caolán

            + clicking on class path make LO crash
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122136
                + Thanks to Julien Nabet

            + CRASH closing LibreOffice while Sort dialog is open
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122152                                
                + Thanks to Caolán

            + CRASH closing LibreOffice while XML filter settings dialog is open
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122153                               
                + Thanks to Caolán

            + CRASH KDE5 backend crashes writer on close with selected text
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122042                              
                + Thanks to Katarina Behrens

            + ReportBuilder: GTK3: Crash in: Wallpaper::operator= Format -> Page crashes
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122059                               
                + Thanks to Caolán

            + Crash in: libmergedlo.so FORM EDIT using drag drop to move control from one dataform to another causes crash
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122127
                + Thanks to Noel

            + KDE5: Impress crashes after selecting some of Slide Transitions
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121266
                + Thanks to Aleksei Nikiforov
            + KDE5: Impress crashes at starting Slide show (with animation...
                + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121247
                + Thanks to Aleksei Nikiforov

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +147  -22 (-140) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Xisco Faulí             27
       andreas_k               17
       Caolán McNamara         10
       Mike Kaganski           9
       Roman Kuznetsov         7
       Heiko Tietze            6
       Justin L                5
       Jan-Marek Glogowski     4
       Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  4
       Timur                   3

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   18
       Xisco Faulí             6
       Michael Weghorn         4
       raal                    3
       Mike Kaganski           3
       Emil Tanev              3
       Drew Jensen             3
       Aron Budea              2
       Denis                   2
       Markus Elfring          2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       Kainz, Andreas          10
       Xisco Faulí             9
       McNamara, Caolán        9
       Kaganski, Mike          9
       Tietze, Heiko           3
       Glogowski, Jan-Marek    3
       Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 3
       Michael Stahl           2
       Behrens, Katarína       2
       Mehrbrodt, Samuel       2

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Xisco Faulí             15
       kompilainenn            11
       dieterp                 11
       Brinzing, Oliver        5
       Raal                    5
       Vera Blagoveschenskaya  4
       Timur                   4
       McNamara, Caolán        4
       Tietze, Heiko           4


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 3/51 -     5 %  (+0)
     5.4 : 1/40 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 1/54 -     1 %  (-2)
     5.2 : 3/43 -     6 %  (+2)
     5.1 : 0/35 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 3/65 -     4 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 1/76 -     1 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 2/73 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 5/134 -    3 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/84 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 4/83 -     4 %  (+0)
     old : 19/257 -   7 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 624/2842 625/2827 618/2800 619/2782 614/2756 609/2732 602/2702 

     done by:
        Xisco Faulí            6
        Budea, Áron            2
        Raal                   2
        Brinzing, Oliver       2
        Weghorn, Michael       1
        Benes, Luke            1
 

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 817/3610 817/3598 810/3568 811/3549 801/3517 795/3494 787/3460 

     done by:
        Xisco Faulí            6
        Budea, Áron            2
        Raal                   2
        Brinzing, Oliver       2


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1075(-1) bugs open of 7925(+15) total 16(+0) high prio.

     done by:
        Xisco Faulí            8
        Martin Sourada         1
        Budea, Áron            1
        Alex Thurgood          1
        Raal                   1
        Telesto                1
        MM                     1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 6(+0)
     LibreOffice   - 5(-1)
     Calc          - 3(+1)
     graphics stack - 1(+0)
     Base          - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     Linux         - 0(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     All           - 13(+0)
     Windows       - 3(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 281(+2)
     Calc                     - 196(-3)
     Impress                  - 117(+2)
     Writer: docx filter      - 77(+0)
     LibreOffice              - 68(-4)
     UI                       - 45(+1)
     Draw                     - 42(+1)
     Borders                  - 41(+0)
     Base                     - 38(+1)
     Writer: perf             - 37(-1)
     Writer: doc filter       - 36(+0)
     Crashes                  - 33(+1)
     graphics stack           - 32(-1)
     Writer: other filter     - 29(+2)
     filters and storage      - 24(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 15(+0)
     BASIC                    - 13(+0)
     Chart                    - 10(+0)
     Linguistic               - 3(+0)
     framework                - 2(+0)
     Extensions               - 1(+0)
     sdk                      - 0(-1)
     Formula Editor           - 0(-1)


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