[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-04-09

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Apr 9 14:52:14 UTC 2020


* Present:
    + Michael S, Ilmari, Caolan, Thorsten, Stephan, Heiko, Cloph, Michael W, Guilhem, Kendy, Xisco, Miklos, Olivier, Gabriel, Michael M

* Completed Action Items:
    + export LO character background as MSO shading by default (Miklos)

* Pending Action Items:
    + None

* Tenders for budget 2020 (Miklos)
  + if you have good ideas, please add them to https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2020
  + proposal: deadline for adding ideas to that page is 1 week from now (9th)
  + then we can copy them to a sheet, vote on it and rank them based on votes
    + Thorsten will build a sheet on 9th
  + deadline to have an ESC decision is 16th April
  + requirements:
    + submitted by 17:00 today (Berlin time)
    + estimate (person weeks)
    + contact person
AI: Build a sheet after this, so people can vote (Thorsten)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 7.0 status: feature freeze is last week of May
    + 6.4 status: 6.4.3 rc2 is tagged already
    + 6.3 status: 6.3.6 rc1 will be tagged later today
      + switch Firebird back to experimental? (Xisco)
      + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/90629
      + no strong opinion (Thorsten)
        + kill a feature in the last release is dubious
      + doesn’t make sense to have it in 6.4, but no 6.3 (Michael S)
        + agreed (Xisco)
      => go ahead and submit the change (all)
AI: Make firebird experimental in 6.3 (Xisco)
    + Remotes
    + Android viewer
    + Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + New Help
         + Fix in xapian for fr
         + Blog post for XHP Editor
    + Helpcontent2
         + Reviews of FLOOR and CEILING help pages (S. Fanning, ohallot)
         + More new pages for Basic (LibreOfficiant, ohallot)
         + Files housekeeping- L10n (ohallot)
    + Guides
         + On going.
    + Google seasons of Doc 2020
         + Mentoring org application next week.


* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        244(244) (topicUI) bugs open, 261(261) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months   12 months
             added      10(5)     50(3)       84(6)     160(8)
         commented     147(78)   385(101)   1040(62)   3123(110)
           removed       1(0)     33(1)       36(1)      44(0)
          resolved      16(9)     44(7)      120(12)    296(15)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Heiko Tietze made 245 changes in 1 month, and 1705 changes in 1 year
          Xisco Faulí made 180 changes in 1 month, and 580 changes in 1 year
          Kainz, Andreas made 96 changes in 1 month, and 400 changes in 1 year
          Timur made 70 changes in 1 month, and 209 changes in 1 year
          Dieter Praas made 61 changes in 1 month, and 470 changes in 1 year
          Roman Kuznetsov made 37 changes in 1 month, and 325 changes in 1 year
          Foote, V Stuart made 32 changes in 1 month, and 551 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 24 changes in 1 month, and 56 changes in 1 y
          Telesto made 23 changes in 1 month, and 54 changes in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 18 changes in 1 month, and 95 changes in 1 year

    + New tickets with needsUXEval Apr/02-09

      * Enhancement - table add right-click menu item 'Protect Cells'
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131961
      * Gallery: Shortcut to an gallery smbol
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131935
      * split window in libre writer
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131876
      => WF, dup

      * Writer sidebar minimum width is too wide when docked
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131947
      * HTML export wizzard
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131870
      * INSERT INDEX ENTRY DIALOG: Insert button ignores "Entry" field when
        multiple entries made
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129583
      => bug

      * Remove /extras/source/gallery/htmlexpo
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131949
        + breaks the build currently
      * Gallery: New Icons Gallery
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131860
      => fixed

      * Remove /extras/source/gallery/www-graf
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131948
  ->  * Opening a document from Start Center does not use last used filter
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131926
      => unconfirmed

  ->  * LIST NUMBER: Different behaviour when using Font Colour and Highlight
        Colour
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131785
        + would be interested to see if this caused by some Word compat option (Miklos)
  ->  * Use chart wizard when adding chart outside a table in Writer
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131668
      => needsDevAdvice

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
    + 10(-7) import failure, 3(-19) export failures
      + infra is back up, emails are working
      + expect: next run will be a little bit down
    + 0(-4) coverity issues
    + 8(-1) ossfuzz issues

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.3.5.2
        + (-90) 1755 1845 1565 1167 961 635 312 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.0.3
        + (-2467) 5555 8022 8518 7488 7429 8772 9464 6774 4842 419 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.1.2
        + (-1282) 2884 4166 5344 5609 3687 2052 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.2.2
        + (+1058) 8046 6988 3716 0
    + missing symbols: problem is still there

    + Cloph has a good idea how to fix this

* Merging changes from AOO stopped working last summer (Guilhem): https://git.libreoffice.org/core/+/refs/heads/aoo/trunk
    + No-one from LibO seems to have noticed (or care) in over 6 months.
    + Is there any interest in keeping a ref in sync with AOO?
    + Background: Current svngit tooling puts some burden to the infra team:
lot of I/O, entire 20GiB SVN clone from Apache, occasional manual fixes
due to empty commits and new authors, etc.
        + Can sync against AOO's GitBox (Apache's official git mirror) instead:
   https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf?p=openoffice.git
        + Fetching and merging refs is trivial as long as everything speaks git
        + The only annoying bit is that the *first* run won't be fast forward
   (our cc36ea7 is called 8c4c05 over there), so we'll either have to
   confuse clones with remote-tracking aoo/trunk, or create a new
   branch.
    + Personal preference:
        1. leave things as is
        2. sync against https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice.git
        3. (way down) try to make svngit work again.

    + If taking openoffice.git, hashes would be broken (Guilhem)
    + Had this discussion before (Thorsten)
      + conclusion was: not worth it
    + annotations would break if hashes change (Caolan)
    + If you want to cherry-pick something: just add another remote
    + Norbert’s script does quite some tweaks to help cherry-picking (Michael M)
    + Would be able to make it to the state where we continue where we stopped (Kendy)
      + Not sure if it is worth it; anything valuable?
    + If we do that, would somebody have the time to monitor that? (Thorsten)
      + Would not have time to do it (Kendy)
    + I kept it up to date till it broke (Caolan)
      + don’t see much that would be worth it
    + able to graft it together (Kendy)
      + but can’t monitor it from that point
      + would be great to have some annotation for openoffice.git commits
=> use the openoffice.git as a remote if needed (all)

* GSoC 2020 (Ilmari)
    + April 20: deadline for review of student proposals
    + April 21 18:00 UTC: Deadline to submit slot requests (Org Admins enter requests)
    + April 22 18:00 UTC: Slot allocations are announced by Google
    + April 22 - 30 18:00 UTC: Orgs select the proposals to become student projects. At least 1 mentor must be assigned to each project before it can be selected. (Org Admins enter selections)
    + April 30 - May 4: Google Program Admins will do another review of student eligibility
    + May 4: Accepted GSoC 2020 students/projects are announced

    + if a proposal has to be ignored, poke Ilmari
    + adjusted schedule only affects the proposal review period and later stages
    + in 2 weeks, we’ll have final reviews on student proposals
      + 17 not ignored proposals (Ilmari)
      + same as last year if you ignore duplicates (Thorsten)

* mentoring/easyhack update
    + reviewing patches from first contributors is much appreciated (Muhammet)
    + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/status:open+-label:Code-Review=-1+-label:Verified=-1+-ownerin:Committers

          committer...   1 week      1 month     3 months     12 months
                  open      56(-24)     124(-25)    133(-29)      150(-28)
               reviews     422(-126)   1670(-60)   5525(-338)   23131(-280)
                merged     379(28)     1438(45)    4528(49)     18635(63)
             abandoned      28(5)        80(5)      271(5)        993(9)
           own commits     296(44)     1144(9)     3805(28)     15320(35)
        review commits      64(-40)     360(-18)   1220(-52)     4638(-30)
        contributor...   1 week      1 month     3 months     12 months
                  open       34(2)       71(-4)       77(-11)      79(-11)
               reviews     1054(24)    3632(-54)   10632(44)    37708(152)
                merged       20(-12)    106(-1)      374(-7)      841(0)
             abandoned       16(9)       46(-10)     145(12)      538(13)
           own commits       33(-12)    150(4)       449(3)      1037(12)
        review commits        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)         0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 214(214)
       total 261(261)   assigned 21(21)   open 222(222)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Steve Fanning made 18 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
          Johnny_M made 16 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year
          LibreOfficiant made 13 patches in 1 month, and 96 patches in 1 year
          Weblate made 12 patches in 1 month, and 44 patches in 1 year
          Pranam Lashkari made 10 patches in 1 month, and 39 patches in 1 year
          Sophia Schröder made 6 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
          Jussi Pakkanen made 5 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 4 patches in 1 month, and 36 patches in 1 year
          Andreas Heinisch made 4 patches in 1 month, and 25 patches in 1 year
          Yukio Siraichi made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Timar, Andras made 192 review comments in 1 month, and 1281 in 1 year
          Behrens, Thorsten made 130 review comments in 1 month, and 1302 in 1 year
          Michael Stahl made 130 review comments in 1 month, and 1528 in 1 year
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 112 review comments in 1 month, and 1032 in 1 year
          Grandin, Noel made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 1173 in 1 year
          Nabet, Julien made 96 review comments in 1 month, and 2348 in 1 year
          Vajna, Miklos made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 1396 in 1 year
          Meeks, Michael made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 932 in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 882 in 1 year
          Bergmann, Stephan made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 995 in 1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
        WIP: tdf#120006 New Document converter ( Roman Kuznetsov )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/81542
        Fix typo ( Andrea Gelmini )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/84497
        tdf#129342 drawinglayer: better logging of EMF+ brush objects ( Chris Sherlock )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/85230
        tdf#120243: Remove old idle workaround ... ( Onur Yılmaz )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/86047
        Fix typo ( Andrea Gelmini )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/86376
        Fix typo ( Andrea Gelmini )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/86378
        sal: remove unnecessary sal/log.hxx includes ( Chris Sherlock )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/86778
        make Clang builds default to --enable-pch=system ( Luboš Luňák )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/87014
        tdf#43157 Clean All OSL_ENSURE in cui/dialogs ( shubham goyal )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/87239
        tdf#43157 Clean up OSL_FAIL, OSL_ENSURE ( shubham  goyal )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/87424
        tdf#43157 Clean up DBG_ASSERT ( shubham goyal )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/87427
        tdf#43157 Clean up DBG_ASSERT ( shubham goyal )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/87437
        tdf#114441: Convert use of sal_uLong to better integer types ( Efdal İncesu )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/87461
        tdf#88205: Adapt uses of css::uno::Sequence to use initializer_list ctor ( Kemal Ayhan )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/87558
        fix detecting qrcodegen ( Caolán McNamara )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/87731
        Remove Buck build toolchain ( David Ostrovsky )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/87820
        Related: tdf#130143 try two columns if there are a huge number of elements ( Caolán McNamara )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/87863
        tdf#130227 Extension manager button fix in writer ext tab ( andreas_kainz )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/88017
    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Balázs Regényi (NISZ)

Commit Access
    + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + sleep 23 weeks
    + seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently
      inactive

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
    from:Thu Apr  2 13:40:45 2020
    master linux rel  jobs:  84 ok:  84 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master linux dbg  jobs:  79 ok:  76 ko:   2 fail ratio:  2.53 % break:   2 broken duration: 4.82%
    master mac rel    jobs:  48 ok:  46 ko:   2 fail ratio:  4.17 % break:   1 broken duration:12.04%
    master mac dbg    jobs:  55 ok:  53 ko:   2 fail ratio:  3.64 % break:   1 broken duration: 0.60%
    master win rel    jobs: 114 ok: 113 ko:   1 fail ratio:  0.88 % break:   1 broken duration: 0.38%
    master win dbg    jobs: 117 ok: 117 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win64 dbg  jobs: 118 ok: 118 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 471 ok: 362 ko:  86 fail ratio: 18.26% time for ok: mean:  20 median:  20
    master gerrit plg jobs: 440 ok: 291 ko: 106 fail ratio: 24.09% time for ok: mean:  27 median:  25
    master gerrit win jobs: 490 ok: 353 ko: 104 fail ratio: 21.22% time for ok: mean:  48 median:  45
    master gerrit mac jobs: 494 ok: 385 ko:  75 fail ratio: 15.18% time for ok: mean:  26 median:  20
    master gerrit all jobs: 461 ok: 266 ko: 147 fail ratio: 31.89% time for ok: mean:  57 median:  53
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_200409.html
   + tests that filed more than twice in last seven days:
      3 CppunitTest_sd_svg_export_tests
      4 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport10
      5 CppunitTest_sd_import_tests
     11 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter

  + pretty sane week (Cloph)
  + 1 mac pro back online

* l10n (Sophie)
  + work as usual

* Python 2 support will be removed (Michael S)
  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/91697
  + last chance to object to this?
  + master-only
AI: release-note this (Michael S)
=> go ahead (all)

* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
  * https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
  * skia / vulkan: to try it on master (Lubos)
    + metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
      + 5 (-2) open bugs, 32 total (+0)

* docx/xlsx competitive marketing issues (Miklos)
  + docx metabug status: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128194 6 open bugs (0)
  + xlsx metabug status: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128382 4 open bugs (0)

* proposal: use TDF nextcloud/LibreOffice Online instance for ESC too (easier access for non-regular attendees) (Thorsten)
  + non-regular attendees wanting to add agenda items
  + aware of the dog-food idea
  + believe the TDF instance would do the work
  + you can just login with TDF ldap (Michael M)
  + TDF could run a core/online master (Thorsten)
    + not a big deal (Michael M)
  + Anybody not a tdf member who attends the ESC call? (Miklos)
    + not yet (Gabriel)
    + can make exceptions (Guilhem)
AI:     + please mail hostmaster at documentfoundation.org to sort out access (Gabriel)

* QA update (Xisco)
    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
          https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

    + UNCONFIRMED: 797 (+44)
        + enhancements: 110  (+6)
        + needsUXEval: 6 (+3)
        + haveBackTrace: 1 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 11 (+0)
        + documentation:  20 (-2)
        + android:  5 (-2)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  12 (+0)

    + bit jump of new bugs, probably due to home-office

    + Most pressing bugs:
     New:
                [None]
     Old:
       + Notarize LibreOffice builds so that it launches without warnings on macOS 10.15 Catalina
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126409
           + Cloph?

       + Opening ODS file rise Incorrect Format exception. Opened well with OpenOffice 4.1.3
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116079
           + regression from the fastparser gsoc work from 2016
          + Mohammed is no longer around, Julien is asking for tips

        + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from imported PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
            + Thorsten looking at it

        + Save-As behavior on MacOS Catalina
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126638
           + not happening for everyone

    + New high severity bugs of the week:
        + LibreOffice menu bar not displayed in Windows 10 high contrast view
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128287
            + not a regression
        + Writer hangs when trying to convert odt with footnotes to pdf
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130868
            + not a regression
        + Crash: reject/clear formatting
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131907
            + Noel?
        + Crash undo/redo inserting image in calc
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131908
            + Armin?

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +211  -1 (-160) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       QA Administrators       17
       Timur                   17
       andreas_k               14
       Xisco Faulí             9
       Julien Nabet            7
       Oliver Brinzing         7
       Caolán McNamara         5
       Dieter                  5
       Heiko Tietze            5
       Justin L                4

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Telesto                 35
       andreas_k               19
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   6
       amirul aiman            5
       Mike Kaganski           4
       Regina Henschel         4
       Buovjaga                3
       Albert Acer             2
       Appstun                 2
       Duns                    2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       Kainz, Andreas          14
       McNamara, Caolán        5
       Justin Luth             3
       Luboš Luňák             3
       Nabet, Julien           3
       Andras Timar            2
       Andreas Heinisch        2
       Jim Raykowski           2
       Németh, László          2
       Rathke, Eike            2

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Heiko Tietze            20
       Xisco Faulí             19
       Timur                   14
       Dieter Praas            13
       Nabet, Julien           9
       *UNKNOWN*               6
       Raal                    5
       Foote, V Stuart         4
       Weghorn, Michael        4
       Budea, Áron             2


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 1/52 -     1 %  (+0)
     5.4 : 2/41 -     4 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 2/73 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 1/133 -    0 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 3/82 -     3 %  (+0)
     old : 6/245 -    2 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 713/4113 715/4104 719/4091 710/4070 708/4049 705/4029 707/4002

     done by:
        Xisco Faulí            6
        Raal                   2
        Budea, Áron            1
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
        Weghorn, Michael       1
        Michael Stahl          1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 885/4957 892/4954 895/4940 885/4918 885/4897 882/4876 886/4850

     done by:
        Xisco Faulí            6
        Raal                   2
        Budea, Áron            1
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
        Weghorn, Michael       1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1144(+8) bugs open of 9501(+22) total 2(+1) high prio.

     done by:
        Timur                  7
        Xisco Faulí            7
        Glogowski, Jan-Marek   2
        David                  2
        Roman Kuznetsov        1
        Budea, Áron            1
        Weghorn, Michael       1
        Kaganski, Mike         1
        OfficeUser             1
        Raal                   1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Calc          - 1(+0)
     Writer        - 1(+1)

   by OS:
     All           - 1(+0)
     Linux         - 0(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 1(+1)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 315(-1)
     Calc                     - 217(+1)
     Impress                  - 135(+1)
     LibreOffice              - 69(+2)
     Writer: docx filter      - 64(+0)
     Draw                     - 46(+1)
     UI                       - 40(+0)
     Borders                  - 39(+0)
     Crashes                  - 38(+3)
     Writer: perf             - 37(+0)
     Base                     - 34(+0)
     Writer: doc filter       - 28(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 28(+0)
     graphics stack           - 28(+0)
     RTL                      - 24(+0)
     Chart                    - 23(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 22(+0)
     filters and storage      - 22(+0)
     BASIC                    - 17(+0)
     framework                - 2(+0)
     Installation             - 1(+0)
     sdk                      - 1(+0)


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