[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-09-03

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Sep 3 14:53:27 UTC 2020


* Present:
    + Heiko, Stephan, Thorsten, Gabriel, Kendy, Michael W, Caolan, Olivier, Miklos, Sophie, Eike

* Completed Action Items:
    + None

* Pending Action Items:
    + make a decision on what notebookbar variant to promote (Heiko)
      + see tdf#135501 for details
      + no decision yet

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 7.0 status
      + 7.0.1 was released earlier today
      + 7.0.2 rc1 in 2 weeks
    + 6.4 status
       + 6.4.7 - end of September (week 39)
    + Remotes
    + Android viewer
    + Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + New Help
       + More extended tips into UI (scalc/) (ohallot, cloph)
       + Extended tips on swriter/
    + Helpcontents2
       + Updates and fixes (ohallot)
       + typos (A  Gelmini)
    + Google Seasons of Doc
       + Started work on Calc function wiki page (R. Ghandi, S. Fanning)
	          + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/ACOS
       + setup for Calc E-Learning
    + Guides
       + Work in progress
    + any help for translators to not re-translate extended tips when you move them from help.git to core.git? (Sophie)
      + if you don’t like them, you can disable them (Olivier)
      + you can filter them out for translation, if wanted (Cloph)
      + will improve the content once the move is done (Olivier)
      + perhaps will put a banner on weblate to avoid double work (Sophie)

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        248(248) (topicUI) bugs open, 315(315) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
             added      30(-2)    89(19)    111(20)    221(18)
         commented     104(6)    461(25)   1082(56)   3821(86)
           removed       1(1)      1(1)      10(1)      54(1)
          resolved       5(2)     23(-9)    101(-1)    386(1)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Telesto made 260 changes in 1 month, and 564 changes in 1 year
          Heiko Tietze made 103 changes in 1 month, and 2063 changes in 1 year
          Kainz, Andreas made 102 changes in 1 month, and 508 changes in 1 year
          Dieter Praas made 72 changes in 1 month, and 537 changes in 1 year
          Foote, V Stuart made 59 changes in 1 month, and 602 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 48 changes in 1 month, and 220 changes in 1y
          Roman Kuznetsov made 31 changes in 1 month, and 257 changes in 1 year
          Thomas Lendo made 27 changes in 1 month, and 163 changes in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 26 changes in 1 month, and 113 changes in 1 year
          BogdanB made 22 changes in 1 month, and 91 changes in 1 year

   * 91 new tickets with needsUXEval since Aug/13
     + page-/paragraph style
     + sidebar redesign
     + ...

   * Design team discussed two-years plan in weekly meeting: a vision
     + Provide unified UI theming appearance for all platforms
     + Introduce theming as known from iOS
     + Outsource content and make it available via "tight integration"
     + Polish Notebookbars, clean-up variants
     + Retire PNG variants of icons
       + interested in replacing that with SVG
       + what is the goal here? (Kendy)
         + problem on hi-res screens: PNG is blurry (Heiko)
         + rendering SVG is expensive (Kendy)
           + if you want to have the same perf as PNG, you’ll need a cache
           + you need to build that cache on first start
           + could just generate that at build-time
           + not exicted to generate them on the user’s machine
           + Tomaz says: SVG icons alraedy have a cache (Thorsten)
             + switching to SVG won’t buy us anything, it’ll be still blurry
       + don’t like the slow cache building at start (Heiko)
         + just the messenger here…
       + SVG has to be designed in a way that is cheap to render (Kendy)
         + done with care, in some optimized way
         + PNG is just an impl detail; design team does SVG, we use PNG at runtime (Thorsten)
           + more a dev decision
           + agreed (Kendy)
     + SmartArt

* Crash testing (Caolan)
    + 8(+2) import failure, 14(-197) export failures
        + new build with new fix underway
    + 0 coverity issues
    + oss-fuzz 11 timeouts, 3 oom fixed

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.5.2
        + (-394) 1814 2208 2552 2315 1761 1162 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.6.2
        + (+874) 874 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.0.3
        + (+2649) 6489 3840 788 0

  + 6.4.x crashes look as usual
  + 7.0.x has lots of backports/fixes, looking forward to see how to changes the numbers

* GSoC 2020 (Thorsten/Ilmari)
    + Projects announced: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2020/05/05/9769/
    + June 1, 2020 - August 24, 2020: Students work on their projects
    + 6 projects accepted
    + Students will have a panel: (Thorsten)
      + mentors: please poke your students to have a 10-15 mins presentation of their work
    + mentors: please do you final review, deadline is 4th Sept!

* Mentoring/easyhack update
          committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                  open     102(14)     158(29)     213(25)      222(25)
               reviews     748(188)   1934(172)   5006(236)   19936(140)
                merged     425(54)    1643(7)     5593(111)   19805(193)
             abandoned      12(-5)      65(-12)    242(3)      1036(18)
           own commits     339(59)    1232(77)    3757(101)   16018(193)
        review commits     155(43)     452(68)    1123(8)      4666(96)
        contributor...   1 week      1 month     3 months      12 months
                  open       58(32)      98(14)      119(13)       121(13)
               reviews     1420(300)   4592(156)   14277(94)     45238(482)
                merged       28(10)     106(-15)     395(-83)     1616(-31)
             abandoned       20(18)      41(15)      130(-5)       543(-2)
           own commits       26(5)      149(-27)     499(-111)    1529(-30)
        review commits        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)          0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 240(240)
       total 289(289)   assigned 13(13)   open 255(255)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Johnny_M made 60 patches in 1 month, and 292 patches in 1 year
          Yusuf Keten made 11 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
          Shivam Kumar Singh made 6 patches in 1 month, and 35 patches in 1 year
          Alain Romedenne made 6 patches in 1 month, and 142 patches in 1 year
          Attila Szűcs made 6 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
          Attila Bakos made 6 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
          Weblate made 5 patches in 1 month, and 65 patches in 1 year
          Nagy Tibor made 5 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
          Dániel Arató made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
          Aditya Sahu made 3 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Nabet, Julien made 294 review comments in 1 month, and 1370 in 1 year
          Behrens, Thorsten made 138 review comments in 1 month, and 1354 in 1 year
          McNamara, Caolán made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 792 in 1 year
          Németh, László made 122 review comments in 1 month, and 634 in 1 year
          Michael Stahl made 116 review comments in 1 month, and 1202 in 1 year
          Timar, Andras made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 1503 in 1 year
          Grandin, Noel made 100 review comments in 1 month, and 978 in 1 year
          Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 1302 in 1 year
          Holešovský, Jan made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 671 in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 832 in 1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
        tdf#38885 CreateTextFromNode Removed ( Advait Ranade )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/90171

        gtk3_kde5: Add support for extra listboxes in fpicker ( Alexander Volkov )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/92505

        tdf#42982 improve UNO API error reporting ( mesut çifci )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/94159

        vcl: split off PrinterTransparencyMode into own header ( Chris Sherlock )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/96252

        vcl: split off PrinterGradientMode into own file ( Chris Sherlock )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/96771

        tdf#131427 Remove button in 3D Effects dialog ( Advait Ranade )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/97129

        copy scrolling-related stuff from VclMEdit to TabPage ( Bernhard Widl )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/97191

        vcl: split off PrinterBitmapMode into own file ( Chris Sherlock )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/97268

        vcl: split off PrinterOptions into own files ( Chris Sherlock )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/97269

    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Ivan Stefanenko (Collabora)

* Commit Access
  + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + sleep 5 weeks
    + seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently
      inactive

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
    from:Thu Aug 27 14:11:25 2020
    master linux rel  jobs:  31 ok:  31 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master linux dbg  jobs:  27 ok:  24 ko:   3 fail ratio: 11.11 % break:   3 broken duration: 3.56%
    master mac rel    jobs:  97 ok:  97 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master mac dbg    jobs:  92 ok:  91 ko:   1 fail ratio:  1.09 % break:   1 broken duration: 2.70%
    master win rel    jobs:  52 ok:  52 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win dbg    jobs:  53 ok:  53 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:  56 ok:  56 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 731 ok: 561 ko: 130 fail ratio: 17.78% time for ok: mean:  24 median:  24
    master gerrit plg jobs: 686 ok: 456 ko: 176 fail ratio: 25.66% time for ok: mean:  35 median:  32
    master gerrit win jobs: 782 ok: 508 ko: 210 fail ratio: 26.85% time for ok: mean:  56 median:  56
    master gerrit mac jobs: 726 ok: 576 ko: 111 fail ratio: 15.29% time for ok: mean:  29 median:  24
    master gerrit all jobs: 739 ok: 381 ko: 287 fail ratio: 38.84% time for ok: mean: 146 median: 135
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_200903.html
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
      3 CppunitTest_sw_uwriter		gerrit_mac
      3 JunitTest_ucb_unoapi		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      4 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport14		gerrit_windows
      4 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export2		gerrit_windows
      5 UITest_impress_tests		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      5 UITest_writer_tests		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      8 CppunitTest_sc_statistical_functions_test		gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      8 CppunitTest_sw_ww8export3		gerrit_windows
     10 CppunitTest_xmlsecurity_signing		gerrit_windows
     12 CppunitTest_sw_odfexport		gerrit_windows
     17 CppunitTest_sc_statistical_functions_test		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
     29 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter		gerrit_windows
     34 Killed by the kill-wrapper		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil

  + lots of failures in the last 7 days
  + lots of rebases of larger patchsets
  + kill-wrapper had to kick in many times
  + if a connection is lost, do we automatically re-connect? (Stephan)
    + automatic for Linux (Cloph)
    + left-over processes are a problem

* l10n (Sophie)
  + working is ongoing

* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
  * https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
  * skia / vulkan: try it on master (Lubos)
    + metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
      + 19 (+10) open bugs, 111 total (+17)

* LibreOffice Conference will be Online (Sophie)
  + some people wondered if it is possible to pre-record the talk?
    - possible, but not a requirement
  + expect to have a schedule by next week!

* QA update (Xisco)

    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
          https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

    + UNCONFIRMED: 1268 (+27)
        + enhancements: 136  (+6)
        + needsUXEval: 73 (+20)
        + haveBackTrace: 2 (+1)
        + needsDevAdvice: 14 (+0)
        + documentation:  15 (+2)
        + android:  5 (+0)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  19 (+2)



    + Most pressing bugs:
     New:

     Old:
       + LO7RC1 - LANGPACK macOS - many versions fail to recognize LibreOffice7 installation as valid on Catalina
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134607

       + macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
           + more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS
Catalina
             support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)

        + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
imported
          PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
            + Thorsten looking at it
            + old problem, but many duplicates
     Fixed:


    + New high severity bugs of the week:
        + EDITING: If a table is the first element of the document, "Select All" does not select all
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135682
            + Miklos ?
            + will read the report to see if this is a regression or impl error (Miklos)

        + Red wrong spelled lining needs a trigger to get activated (spell checker)
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136294
            + M. Stahl ?
            + same is needed here (Xisco)

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +262  -31 (-223) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Buovjaga                60
       QA Administrators       14
       Telesto                 13
       Caolán McNamara         10
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   10
       Heiko Tietze            9
       Julien Nabet            8
       Michael Stahl (CIB)     6
       Mike Kaganski           6
       Attila Szűcs            4

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Telesto                 48
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   10
       andreas_k               5
       Gerald Pfeifer          4
       shariqkeen              4
       BogdanB                 3
       Heiko Tietze            3
       Mike Kaganski           3
       R. Green                3
       Rafael Lima             3

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       McNamara, Caolán        10
       Heiko Tietze            5
       Attila Szűcs            4
       Balazs Varga            4
       Dániel Arató            4
       Michael Stahl           4
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   4
       Justin Luth             3
       Kainz, Andreas          3
       Nabet, Julien           3

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      64
       BogdanB                 21
       Nabet, Julien           8
       Heiko Tietze            7
       Telesto                 7
       Alex Thurgood           6
       Dieter Praas            6
       Roman Kuznetsov         6
       Balazs Varga            3
       Henschel, Regina        3


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 1/52 -     1 %  (+0)
     5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 2/73 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 1/133 -    0 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 4/83 -     4 %  (+0)
     old : 6/247 -    2 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   + 848/4656 842/4631 841/4613 839/4593 835/4575 839/4559 822/4529

     done by:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     9
        Telesto                6
        Budea, Áron            5
        Raal                   2
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Justin Luth            1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   + 1034/5552 1025/5522 1024/5501 1026/5482 1023/5464 1027/5448 1012/5417

     done by:
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     9
        Budea, Áron            7
        Telesto                5
        BogdanB                4
        Raal                   2
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Justin Luth            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1311(+10) bugs open of 10195(+37) total 12(-1) high prio.

     done by:
        Telesto               13
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     7
        BogdanB                5
        Yotam Benshalom        3
        Xisco Fauli            3
        Kaganski, Mike         2
        Roman Kuznetsov        1
        Rathke, Eike           1
        Gerald Pfeifer         1
        Henschel, Regina       1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 6(-1)
     Calc          - 3(+0)
     Impress       - 2(+0)
     LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 9(-1)
     Linux         - 1(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 394(+3)
     Calc                     - 231(+1)
     Impress                  - 145(+1)
     LibreOffice              - 59(+0)
     Writer: docx filter      - 57(+1)
     Crashes                  - 51(-4)
     Draw                     - 50(+2)
     Writer: perf             - 44(+1)
     UI                       - 43(+0)
     Borders                  - 42(+1)
     Base                     - 32(+1)
     Writer: other filter     - 29(+0)
     Writer: doc filter       - 27(+0)
     graphics stack           - 24(-3)
     Printing and PDF export  - 23(+0)
     RTL                      - 23(+0)
     filters and storage      - 20(+0)
     Chart                    - 19(+0)
     BASIC                    - 15(-1)
     framework                - 2(+0)
     Installation             - 1(+0)
     sdk                      - 1(+0)


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