[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2020-09-24

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Sep 24 14:35:35 UTC 2020


* Present:
    + Michael W, Heiko, Caolan, Sophie, Miklos, Xisco, Olivier, Stephan, Michael S, Mike K, Gabriel, Thorsten


* Completed Action Items:
    + None

* Pending Action Items:
    + set up 1 Android CI builder and see the build turn-around time (Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph/Xisco)
    + 7.0 status
       + 7.0.2 rc2 will be tagged next week
    + 6.4 status
       + 6.4.7 rc1 was tagged yesterday, builds are in progress
    + Remotes
    + Android viewer
    + Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
    + New Help (no news)
    + Helpcontent2
      + Fixes and improvements (ohallot, LibreOfficiant G. Kelemen)
    + Google seasons of Doc
      + wiki on Calc Functions : Progressing. (R. Gandhi)
      + E learning on Calc : work in progress (Prashant)
    + Guides
      + work in progress
      + Call for duties (volunteers)

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        251(251) (topicUI) bugs open, 264(264) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months    12 months
             added      15(8)     35(-15)     64(-15)    175(-15)
         commented     147(58)   401(43)    1052(20)    3795(20)
           removed       4(3)      7(5)       11(2)       59(4)
          resolved      21(9)     49(18)     108(11)     406(9)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Heiko Tietze made 288 changes in 1 month, and 2208 changes in 1 year
          Telesto made 103 changes in 1 month, and 519 changes in 1 year
          BogdanB made 93 changes in 1 month, and 174 changes in 1 year
          Kainz, Andreas made 64 changes in 1 month, and 461 changes in 1 year
          Foote, V Stuart made 55 changes in 1 month, and 632 changes in 1 year
          Roman Kuznetsov made 42 changes in 1 month, and 266 changes in 1 year
          Dieter Praas made 40 changes in 1 month, and 495 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 32 changes in 1 month, and 214 changes in 1 y
          Timur made 29 changes in 1 month, and 257 changes in 1 year
          Thomas Lendo made 28 changes in 1 month, and 139 changes in 1 year

     + New tickets with needsUXEval Sep/17-24

     -> * Optimize handling of page orientation in Writer (based on landscape
          page)
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136961
          + workflow is hard: need to insert 2 page breaks, change style for the page in-between (Heiko)
            + right, there is currently no easier way (Miklos)
        * In template directory odt files no longer visible
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84709
     -> * Comment reply function has disappeared
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136896
          + Unknown Author can’t reply to itself
          + perhaps self-replying should be allowed
          + MSO allows this
          + don’t know of a good reason (Michael S)
       -> * StartCenter is inconsistent with dark theme(s)
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136555
            + currently stuck, two different patches currently proposed:
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/103041 (Jan-Marek)
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/103079 (Thorsten W)
             - would be great to talk to each other :-) (Miklos)
        * Move Validity drop-down list control inside cell
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136878
        => in discussion

        * UI: Autocomplete for search field disturbing workflow
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136942
        => NAB

        * WRITER TABLES: Improve workflow for unfloating tables
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136931
        * Add "Shapes" sidebar from LO Draw into Impress
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136946
        => New, easyhack

        * BULLETS AND NUMBERING DIALOG: RFE add support to use Unicode SMP char
          acters as bullets
          + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132970
        => fixed

  + notebookbar state: see tdf#135501 for details
     + NBs are not fully functional and perform below ribbons
     + Chicken/Egg: to get feedback we have to switch
     + Tabbed might be the most familiar, Contextual Single the most complete
     + UI picker is welcome (though it just makes the selection a bit easier)
     + NB variants showcase our self-concept to be as flexible as possible
     + Removing single toolbar and tabbed compact is broadly accepted
       + still 7 options are remaining
       + ESC request was to have a single notebookbar variant, if possible (Miklos)
       + some has the opposite opinion (Heiko)

* Crash testing (Caolan)
    + 4(-4) import failure, 0(-3) export failures
        + 1 writer footnote layout crash, 3 calc issues
    + 2 coverity issues
    + 16 ossfuzz issues

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.5.2
        + (-14) 1604 1618 1744 1814 2208 2552 2315 1761 1162 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.6.2
        + (+258) 1564 1306 1053 874 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.0.3
        + (-219) 3952 4171 5084 6489 3840 788 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.1.2
        + (+1338) 4561 3223 1986 0

  + we are OK, no disasters
    + saw some promising Skia patches, better handling of OOM situations

* Mentoring/easyhack update
          committer...   1 week      1 month      3 months     12 months
                  open      79(-43)     125(-53)     126(-56)      135(-56)
               reviews     456(-122)   1896(-200)   4496(-186)   19568(-118)
                merged     416(-39)    1759(28)     5296(9)      19992(-52)
             abandoned      25(5)        78(10)      215(-9)      1043(6)
           own commits     319(-3)     1330(36)     3897(58)     16290(40)
        review commits      94(26)      437(-18)    1140(7)       4800(57)
        contributor...   1 week       1 month      3 months      12 months
                  open       26(-10)      66(4)         67(4)         69(4)
               reviews     1124(-178)   4506(-104)   13189(-228)   45490(-139)
                merged       14(-20)     146(0)        393(-20)     1557(-6)
             abandoned        6(2)        40(-2)       119(-6)       554(0)
           own commits       15(-21)     149(-1)       492(-23)     1625(6)
        review commits        0(0)         0(0)          0(0)          0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 2(2)   cleanup_comments 246(246)
       total 295(295)   assigned 15(15)   open 259(259)
    + top 10 contributors:
          George Bateman made 23 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year
          Dániel Arató made 20 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
          Aditya Sahu made 17 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
          Weblate made 7 patches in 1 month, and 70 patches in 1 year
          Alain Romedenne made 5 patches in 1 month, and 143 patches in 1 year
          Attila Szűcs made 5 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
          Nagy Tibor made 4 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
          Attila Bakos made 4 patches in 1 month, and 30 patches in 1 year
          Yusuf Keten made 4 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
          Andreas Heinisch made 4 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
    + top 10 reviewers:
          Nabet, Julien made 234 review comments in 1 month, and 1388 in 1 year
          Timar, Andras made 224 review comments in 1 month, and 1503 in 1 year
          McNamara, Caolán made 140 review comments in 1 month, and 794 in 1 year
          Grandin, Noel made 132 review comments in 1 month, and 978 in 1 year
          Németh, László made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 656 in 1 year
          Behrens, Thorsten made 118 review comments in 1 month, and 1356 in 1 year
          Vajna, Miklos made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 950 in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 792 in 1 year
          Vajngerl, Tomaž made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 306 in 1 year
          Xisco Fauli made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 814 in 1 year
    + Patches automatically abandoned:
        tdf#104260: sw: Add unittest ( Gabor Kelemen )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/96566

        BASIC : extern should not be used for crossfile declaration in C++. ( Arnaud Versini )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/96772

        tdf#134098 Fix table border width issue ( Zhenhua Fong )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/96954

        tdf#131850 - Start center performance issues ( Heiko Tietze )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/98520

        basic : use std::mutex instead of osl:Mutex in BasicDLLImpl. ( Arnaud Versini )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/98737

        use PackageSet instead of two separate packages for system galleries ( Christian Lohmaier )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/98824

        tdf#128795 Chart OOXML: fix import of Rectangular gradient fill ( Tünde Tóth )
            - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/98944

* Commit Access
  + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten)
    + sleep 2 weeks
    + seeking for a new person as a replacement for Bjoern, who is currently
      inactive

* Jenkins / CI update (Christian)
  + Missing Cloph.

* l10n (Sophie)
  + working is ongoing

* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
  * https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
  * skia / vulkan: try it on master (Lubos)
    + metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
      + 17 (+0) open bugs, 120 total (+1)

* LibreOffice Conference will be Online (Sophie)
  + some people wondered if it is possible to pre-record the talk?
    - possible, but not a requirement
  + if you are a speaker: you got a mail with instructions, please don’t ignore that
  + will it be possible to do a demo? (Caolan)
    + as you prefer: both live and pre-recorded is possible (Sophie)

* QA update (Xisco)
    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
          https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

    + UNCONFIRMED: 1236 (-5)
        + enhancements: 125  (-7)
        + needsUXEval: 11 (-21)
        + haveBackTrace: 1 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 15 (+0)
        + documentation:  13 (+0)
        + android:  5 (+0)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  22 (+0)


    + Most pressing bugs:
     New:
       + PDF export: LibreOffice 6.3 option buttons in forms not working in Adobe Reader (OK in other readers)
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127217

           + Thorsten ?

     Old:
       + CRASH: Chart: Changing properties in different objects
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133630

           + Muhammet ?

       + macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
           + more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS
Catalina
             support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)

        + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
imported
          PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
            + Thorsten looking at it
            + old problem, but many duplicates



    + New high severity bugs of the week:

        + Wrong Auto Filter Result if the record contains only one single row
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134351
            + Scito?

        + CRASH: Undoing merge cell
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136956
            + bisected to a Synerzip commit

    + What is the criteria, so that bugs show up here? (Mike)
      + priority to highest(Xisco)
      + or severity to high
      + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133771 was mentioned once

* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +163  +33 (-213) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Timur                   26
       Heiko Tietze            20
       QA Administrators       19
       BogdanB                 17
       Caolán McNamara         14
       Telesto                 7
       Buovjaga                6
       Dieter                  6
       Kevin Suo               6
       Olivier Hallot          5

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Telesto                 21
       medmedin2014            11
       Timur                   4
       Mike Kaganski           3
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   3
       ori                     3
       sawakaze                3
       Gerald Pfeifer          2
       Hans-Werner             2
       Jim Raykowski           2

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       McNamara, Caolán        10
       Budea, Áron             4
       Olivier Hallot          4
       Xisco Fauli             4
       Balazs Varga            3
       Michael Stahl           3
       Vajna, Miklos           3
       Attila Szűcs            2
       Goyo                    2
       Heiko Tietze            2

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       BogdanB                 23
       Heiko Tietze            19
       Dieter Praas            14
       Timur                   13
       Nabet, Julien           6
       Roman Kuznetsov         6
       *UNKNOWN*               5
       Budea, Áron             5
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      5
       Foote, V Stuart         3


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 1/52 -     1 %  (+0)
     5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 2/73 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 1/133 -    0 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 4/83 -     4 %  (+0)
     old : 6/247 -    2 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   +

     done by:
        Timur                   4
        Raal                    3
        Roman Kuznetsov         2
        Budea, Áron             2
        Terrence Enger          2
        barakso.attila          1
        Justin Luth             1
        NISZ LibreOffice Team   1
        lookhoper               1
        Xisco Fauli             1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   +

     done by:
        Timur                   4
        Raal                    3
        Roman Kuznetsov         2
        Budea, Áron             2
        barakso.attila          1
        Justin Luth             1
        NISZ LibreOffice Team   1
        Terrence Enger          1
        Xisco Fauli             1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1332(-9) bugs open of 10295(+17) total 16(+2) high prio.

     done by:
        Telesto               11
        Timur                  2
        Foote, V Stuart        2
        Roman Kuznetsov        1
        Justin Luth            1
        Terrence Enger         1
        pierre-yves samyn      1
        Pierre C               1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 7(+0)
     Impress       - 4(+2)
     Calc          - 3(+0)
     Chart         - 1(+0)
     LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

   by OS:
     All           - 13(+2)
     Linux         - 1(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 414(-2)
     Calc                     - 229(-5)
     Impress                  - 150(+2)
     Crashes                  - 60(+3)
     LibreOffice              - 57(-1)
     Writer: docx filter      - 54(+0)
     Draw                     - 49(-1)
     Borders                  - 43(+1)
     UI                       - 41(-1)
     Writer: perf             - 41(-1)
     Base                     - 35(+0)
     Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
     Writer: doc filter       - 28(+1)
     Chart                    - 23(-2)
     RTL                      - 23(+0)
     graphics stack           - 23(-1)
     Printing and PDF export  - 22(+0)
     filters and storage      - 20(+0)
     BASIC                    - 14(+0)
     framework                - 2(+0)
     Formula Editor           - 1(+1)
     Installation             - 1(+0)
     sdk                      - 1(+0)


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