[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Sep-30

Heiko Tietze heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Wed Sep 30 20:00:45 UTC 2020


Present: Sascha, Stuart, Heiko
Comments: many

Tickets/Topic

 * [META] Sidebar UI and UX bugs and enhancements
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103459
 * Guidelines
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/SideBar

### Width ###
 => initial width should be defined by the controls of all decks so the
    largest deck is responsible for the initial width
 => minimum width is defined by the individual deck so users can change the deck
    to be smaller than other decks
 => width of decks should be stored per deck
 => if no control is placed on the deck the minimum width has to be defined as
    absolute value
    + minimize beyond the minimum shows a blue arrow that indicates that the
      sidebar is going to automatically collapse
 => maximum width is defined (AI: defined in svx?)
 => sidebar optimum width should not exceed 10 toolbar buttons at large icon
    size
 => undocking sidebars for the first time should expand to the docked width;
    users should be able to resize as when docked (see above)

### Initial state ###
 => state needs to stored per module in the user profile
 * Sidebar has to many stages
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137118
   + collapsed state is an acceptable minimum;
   + can we remove the hide button "panel"? (and by this the fully collapsed
     state)
     + clicking the tab button expands/collapse the panel to the minimum state
     + makes the various functions more consistent (closing the tab or clicking
       the tab button has the same result being collapsed
   + impacts the minimized state while in (at least) tabbed notebookbar mode
     + needs to be changed into the collapsed mode
   + removing the hide button might kill the splitter functionality that allows
     resizing of sidebar; needs to take care
 => drop this state only

### Relation to toolbars/statusbar ###
 => HIG: Provide access to frequently used features in the sidebar. Make sure to
    have all features in the dialogs.
   + there are a lot of duplicate functions right now (Sascha); not much of an
     issue because sidebar allows alternative workflows (Stuart)
   + concerned about too many functions in the SB (Heiko); with the first
     implementation many dialogs were removed, eg. styles, navigator (Stuart)
     + Allow undocking of Sidebar decks (tdf#85905)
   + contextual content panel should be avoided (Heiko)
   + <ironic> why not get rid of the properties deck? (Stuart)
   + no concerns (Sascha)
 => no consensus (needed)

### Accessibility ###
 => WIP: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/100148
 => keyboard access described in detail in the HIG


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