[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Feb-03
Heiko Tietze
heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Wed Feb 3 19:12:15 UTC 2021
Present: Heiko
Comments: Sascha, Mike, Regina, John, Seth, Telesto, Dieter, Eike
Tickets/Topic
* UI: Footnotes and endnote settings has no reset button
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139712
+ seems to be a global option and effective across sessions
+ could enhance workflow, but
+ first Bug 128469 (terminology of Reset/Standard) has to be solved
for naming convention (Sascha)
+ don't see the benefit, Reset becomes "Set to Parent" and works only
with hierarchically organized data; F&E is kind of global option and
would fit tools > options > writer
+ if we add Reset it will behave as reset to factory settings and
rather add confusion than making dialogs more consistent
=> comment
* UI Footnote/endnote settings dialog caption
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139713
+ dialog has other label then menu entry, slash bad practice for
titles (Sascha)
+ suggest naming dialog and menu entry to "Foot- and Endnotes..." (Sascha)
+ yes to "Footnotes and Endnotes Settings" but no to properties since
this dialog works similar to tools > options (Heiko)
=> comment
* "Links to External Files" is not precise
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139735
+ "External Links..." or "Links to External Data..." (Mike)
+ "External Links" bad naming, links itself aren't external (Sascha)
+ suggest "Externally Linked..." or "Linked Data and Files..." (Sascha)
+ +1 to "Links to External Data..." (too much
+ Calc: .uno:InsertExternalDataSource "Link to E~xternal Data..."
+ Draw/Impress: .uno:ManageLinks "Lin~ks to External Files..."
+ Writer: .uno:LinkDialog "Lin~ks to External Files..."
+ cui/uiconfig/ui/baselinksdialog.ui is titled "Edit Links"
+ streams are rather a corner case for Writer and DrawImpress
+ if "data" is read similar to "file" we should harmonize acc. Calc
+ documentation under
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.0/en-US/text/shared/01/02180000.html is outdated
=> comment
* Paragraph/Character Style Dialog: "Reset" and "Standard"
buttons have confusing labels
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128469
+ suggest "Reset Tab" and "Reset to Parent" but probably to long
labels (Sascha)
+ Reset -> Revert, Unapply, Undo, Clear, Undo Unsaved Changes, Undo Tab
+ keep Reset since it's used in different context
+ Standard -> Reset, Default, Parent, Original, Inherited,
Reset Tab to Parent, Reset Tab, Re/Set to Parent
+ "Reset" for "Standard" adds confusion (Regina)
+ remove Reset
+ works nicely with Apply (John)
+ both apply to the current tab only (Apply works on all tabs)
+ ideally we have a true "Reset" button, which works as Undo for Apply, and
a "Standard" that reverts everything to the default (pretty difficult for
hierarchical content)
=> simplicity first, short terms, long and informative tooltips
* The behavior of the border picker is sometimes off
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139838
+ see also https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139094
+ keep makes no sense in many cases, e.g. edit single cell, column, row
+ consistent behavior would be: init off>on>off; init partial>on all>off
all (Sascha)
+ bike-shedding to me, don't see the benefit of keep either but there is
likely one (Heiko)
=> comment
* UI - Find in Calc fails when a formula refers to a cell in
another sheet's pivot table
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134724
+ expect quick find to search content instead of display values (Eike)
+ default search should be values (for Benjamin), option for formulas given
(for Eve) (Sascha)
+ maybe rename "Values" into "Values and Results" (Sascha)
+ simply find both, Values/Results, Content and Notes (Heiko)
+ otherwise I vote for an option
=> comment
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