[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2021-01-14

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Jan 14 15:45:15 UTC 2021


* Present:
    + Stephan, Xisco, Michael W, Sophie, Caolan, Michael S, Cloph, Gabriel, Olivier, Heiko, Eike, Miklos, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:
    + add good ideas with estimates to <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2021> (all)
    + restore the Community Edition change + add board members as reviewers to build consensus (Heiko)
     + will add about dialog strings on master still
     + did you consider combining the community / TDF taglines? (Miklos)
       + Community → TDF replacement won’t happen in the start center

* Pending Action Items:
    + get GSoC 2021 application kicked off until 29th January (Thorsten)
    + restrict master direct pushes in core.git, enforce going via gerrit (Cloph)
       + pushed for review

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
    + 7.1 status
      + 7.1 rc2 this week (later today)
      + changes to review: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/project:core+branch:libreoffice-7-1+status:open
    + 7.0 status
      + 7.0.5 far away (week 7)
    + Remotes: Android, iOS
    + Android viewer

* TDF tender budget for 2021 (Heiko)
    + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2021
    + most topics from last year made it to the current list, quite long list
      + most Armin topics (Michael S)
AI: + Thorsten to create a voting sheet (Thorsten)
      + and mail it out to ESC members to vote
    + voting deadline is next week

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help (No news)
     + Helpcontent2
         + Updates and fixes (Seth, Bala, LibreOfficiant. Buovjaga, Rafael Lima,     JP Ledure, ohallot...
     + Guides
         + Work in progress
           + expect a release after 7.1
         + Communities translating Guides

* UX Update (Heiko)
    + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
        241(241) (topicUI) bugs open, 264(264) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
    + Updates:
        BZ changes   1 week    1 month     3 months    12 months
             added      14(-3)    46(-23)      74(-13)    178(-15)
         commented     102(27)   376(-100)   1014(-30)   4073(-20)
           removed       0(0)      4(-1)        8(-1)      52(0)
          resolved      19(14)    52(3)       146(12)     496(11)
    + top 10 contributors:
          Heiko Tietze made 208 changes in 1 month, and 2428 changes in 1 year
          Telesto made 198 changes in 1 month, and 861 changes in 1 year
          Foote, V Stuart made 61 changes in 1 month, and 676 changes in 1 year
          Seth Chaiklin made 55 changes in 1 month, and 215 changes in 1 year
          Dieter Praas made 33 changes in 1 month, and 487 changes in 1 year
          Ilmari Lauhakangas made 33 changes in 1 month, and 291 changes in 1 year
          Kaganski, Mike made 27 changes in 1 month, and 173 changes in 1 year
          Roman Kuznetsov made 19 changes in 1 month, and 252 changes in 1 year
          Timur made 17 changes in 1 month, and 240 changes in 1 year
          Budea, Áron made 15 changes in 1 month, and 39 changes in 1 year

    + New tickets with needsUXEval Jan/07-Jan/14

      * open template -- vs -- new from template (new document based
        on template)
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139429
      * UI: LibreOffice main icon revamp
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139471
      * EDITING: Table of Contents is Deleted Unintentionally
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71500
      * UI: About screen exceptional width for Dutch language (compared
        to English)
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139501
      * Don't retain image position when cut/pasting exclusively the image
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139522
      * Usability: "Move or Copy Sheet"; the difference is subtle, but important
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139464
      * PRINT DILAOG: Document in format DL has Print format A4
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139265
      * Some tips of the day are worded poorly
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139533
      * UI: Border selector still in selected state after clicking
        different border
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139094
      * Add opportunity to delete all manual inserted Page breakes in Calc
        for one time
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139562
      * LibreOffice-6.x Off-Line Help Should NOT Require XDG
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125956
      * Notebookbar Language Settings
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139589
      * UI: "Replace" current textbox (shape) for textbox frame
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139606

    + Code clean-up
      * Make Data provider experimental
        + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139409
        + Moggi added the code years ago, not really functional
        + or remove all the code?
        + last activity was some GSoC change (Eike)
          + not sure who is using that
          + it’s not in the help (Heiko)
        + menu entry was missing (Xisco)
          + nobody complained in the last year
        + no problems with the approval (Eike)

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
    + 13(+0) import failure, 1(+0) export failures
      + nothing changed, still mostly sw layout / footnotes
    + 10 coverity issues
      + working again, lots of new reports
    + 16 ossfuzz issues, 12 Timeouts
      + lots of new issues → exception when reading the past the end of the stream
      + not sure if this is improving things in practice

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/6.4.7.2
         + (+949) 1425 476 1349 1232 1411 1286 944 803 568 343 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.3.1
         + (+3744) 6046 2302 7544 6347 6410 6208 4932 3472 1732 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.0.4.2
         + (+2006) 2033 1027 0

  + service was down in the last week
    + now back, thanks Cloph
    + no data was lost
  + previously reported: export crash, now have repro steps, fixed on master
    + Caolan fixed it


* Mentoring/easyhack update
          committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                  open      75(-34)    137(-51)    157(-44)     159(-45)
               reviews     540(144)   1214(106)   3366(126)   14600(-305)
                merged     321(136)   1096(16)    3574(80)    17573(-234)
             abandoned      26(13)      62(4)      190(-3)      969(-11)
           own commits     260(109)    913(15)    2964(100)   14527(-11)
        review commits     103(44)     316(28)    1123(61)     4685(-6)
        contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months   12 months
                  open      44(-42)    140(13)      152(17)     153(17)
               reviews     914(84)    3004(-196)   9354(24)   46044(-231)
                merged      19(-4)     126(3)       641(23)    2666(180)
             abandoned      10(0)       49(2)       125(8)      500(17)
           own commits      28(-1)     118(10)      580(11)    2030(-7)
        review commits       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)        0(0)
    + easyHack statistics:
       needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 3(3)   cleanup_comments 247(247)
       total 290(290)   assigned 22(22)   open 243(243)
    + top 10 contributors:
    + top 10 reviewers:
    + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
          Quentin PAGÈS
          Prince Tomar
          Rhithick Murali
          Isah Bllaca
          Vikram Shishupalsingh Bais
          Anirudh Simhachalam (iiita.ac.in)
          Vishwas (lnmiit.ac.in)
          Milo Ivir
          日陰のコスモス
          Yaron Shahrabani
          george k
          Matthaiks

* Commit Access
  + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
    + sleep -10 weeks

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)

    from:Thu Jan  7 14:56:56 2021
    master linux rel  jobs:  36 ok:  35 ko:   1 fail ratio:  2.78 % break:   1 broken duration: 1.84%
    master linux dbg  jobs:  34 ok:  33 ko:   1 fail ratio:  2.94 % break:   1 broken duration: 1.87%
    master mac rel    jobs:  13 ok:  11 ko:   2 fail ratio: 15.38 % break:   1 broken duration:44.35%
    master mac dbg    jobs:  11 ok:   9 ko:   2 fail ratio: 18.18 % break:   1 broken duration:44.79%
    master win rel    jobs:  54 ok:  51 ko:   3 fail ratio:  5.56 % break:   2 broken duration: 6.72%
    master win dbg    jobs:  58 ok:  53 ko:   5 fail ratio:  8.62 % break:   3 broken duration: 8.27%
    master win64 dbg  jobs:  57 ok:  53 ko:   4 fail ratio:  7.02 % break:   3 broken duration: 8.28%
    master gerrit lin jobs: 658 ok: 526 ko:  58 fail ratio:  8.81% time for ok: mean:  25 median:  24
    master gerrit plg jobs: 605 ok: 380 ko: 144 fail ratio: 23.80% time for ok: mean:  40 median:  37
    master gerrit win jobs: 705 ok: 346 ko: 143 fail ratio: 20.28% time for ok: mean:  53 median:  55
    master gerrit mac jobs: 668 ok: 517 ko:  62 fail ratio:  9.28% time for ok: mean:  33 median:  29
    master android    jobs: 605 ok: 507 ko:  41 fail ratio:  6.78% time for ok: mean:  27 median:  16
    master gerrit all jobs: 637 ok: 243 ko: 187 fail ratio: 29.36% time for ok: mean: 161 median: 139
   + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_210114.html
   + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
      3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge		gerrit_windows
      3 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter		gerrit_windows
      4 CppunitTest_sc_uicalc		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      4 CppunitTest_sw_uwriter		gerrit_mac
      5 UITest_writer_tests2		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
     10 CppunitTest_xmlsecurity_signing		gerrit_windows
     11 Killed by the kill-wrapper		gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
     12 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter2		gerrit_windows
   + state is now back in control:
     + windows clipboard code → had to do 3 reverts (Stephan)
     + bad change just happened to be lucky, there was no Jenkins bypass
   + plan to extend the windows build throughput
   + 1 mac needs replacement, ec2 is probably too expensive


* l10n (Sophie)
  + working harder than usual :)
  + Weblate added to the dashboard
  + Copyright update → Cloph fixed to not cause untranslated strings

* GSoC 2021 announced, deadline for applying as a project: January 29 (Thorsten)
  + project page: http://g.co/gsoc
  + new ideas are welcome at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas

* Graphics architecture (Thorsten)
  * https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/ESC_graphics_architecture
  * skia / vulkan metabug: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129062
      + 14 (+1) open bugs, 143 total (+1)

* FOSDEM 2021 (Italo)
  + next deadline: 2021-01-24
    + need to create slides + pre-record the videos by then!

* rename master to main in git? (Stephan)
   + LLVM already did this
   + how far should we go there? (Cloph)
   + do we look bad if we don’t do anything? (Stephan)
   + when creating a new branch: (Cloph)
      + IRC notify, tinderbox, .gitreview, documentation (wiki e.g.) (Sophie)
      + dashboard data may be tricky (Cloph)
   + in favor of doing it (Michael S)
AI:   + file a TDF infra ticket on redmine (Michael S)
     + to get input from infra
    + prefer to get 7.1 out of the door first (Cloph)

* QA update (Xisco)
    + Please help flesh out the monthly reports:
          https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/2qbepFYXXan4ief

    + UNCONFIRMED: 1432 (+18)
        + enhancements: 170  (+3)
        + needsUXEval: 40 (-6)
        + haveBackTrace: 4 (+0)
        + needsDevAdvice: 19 (+1)
        + documentation:  22 (+1)
        + android:  6 (+1)
        + iOS:  0 (+0)
        + Online:  23 (+0)


    + Most pressing bugs:
     New:
		None

     Old:
        + CRASH: deleting content from document
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138482
            + Michael S?

        + LibreOffice text blurry on Retina displays on macOS 11
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=138122
		+  Thorsten W. working on it too
			https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/109072
                + Tor to review it

       + PDF export: LibreOffice 6.3 option buttons in forms not
working in Adobe Reader (OK in other readers)
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127217
           + Thorsten ?

       + macOS: Can't Save As after installing language pack on Catalina
           + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132025
           + more info here: “Subject: Budget 2020 proposals and macOS
Catalina
             support / onboarding” on the dev list (Heiko)

        + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
imported
          PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
            + Thorsten looking at it
            + old problem, but many duplicate

    + New high severity bugs of the week:
        + Layout loop/freeze after changing anchor from to paragraph to to character
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134417
            + needs bisecting


* QA stats
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
      +134  -4 (-100) overall)
      many thanks to the top bug squashers:
       Heiko Tietze            12
       QA Administrators       10
       V Stuart Foote          8
       Xisco Faulí             6
       m.a.riosv               6
       sdc.blanco              5
       Mike Kaganski           4
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   4
       Alex Thurgood           3
       Eike Rathke             3

    + top 10 bugs reporters:
       Telesto                 20
       Aron Budea              4
       Jürgen Kirsten          4
       Xisco Faulí             3
       nd101                   3
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   2
       Olivier Hallot          2
       Roman Kuznetsov         2
       ffs                     2
       Albrecht Dreß           1

    + top 10 bugs fixers:
       NISZ LibreOffice Team   4
       Nagy Tibor              2
       Rathke, Eike            2
       Seth Chaiklin           2
       Vajna, Miklos           2
       Alex Thurgood           1
       Andras Timar            1
       Attila Bakos            1
       Heiko Tietze            1
       Henschel, Regina        1

    + top 10 bugs confirmers:
       Ilmari Lauhakangas      10
       Heiko Tietze            9
       Dieter Praas            8
       Nabet, Julien           8
       *UNKNOWN*               7
       Budea, Áron             7
       Roman Kuznetsov         5
       m.a.riosv               5
       Raal                    4
       Foote, V Stuart         3


* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
   + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
     6.0 : 1/52 -     1 %  (+0)
     5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
     5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
     5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
     4.3 : 2/73 -     2 %  (+0)
     4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
     4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
     4.0 : 4/83 -     4 %  (+0)
     old : 6/247 -    2 %  (+0)


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
   + more accurate - down to a single commit.
   + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
   +

     done by:
        Telesto                5
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Budea, Áron            1
        Raal                   1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
   + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
   +

     done by:
        Telesto                6
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     3
        pavlogradski           2
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Budea, Áron            1
        Raal                   1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
   + 1390(+0) bugs open of 10647(+17) total 15(+0) high prio.

     done by:
        Telesto                7
        Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
        Xisco Fauli            2
        Alex Thurgood          1
        m.a.riosv              1
        Kaganski, Mike         1
        pavlogradski           1
        Raal                   1
        Robert Großkopf        1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
     Writer        - 9(+1)
     Calc          - 2(+0)
     Impress       - 2(+0)
     Base          - 1(+1)
     LibreOffice   - 1(-1)
     BASIC         - 0(-1)

   by OS:
     All           - 13(+0)
     Linux         - 1(+0)
     Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
     Windows       - 1(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
   + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
     Writer: other            - 448(+2)
     Calc                     - 235(+1)
     Impress                  - 150(+0)
     Writer: docx filter      - 66(-2)
     Crashes                  - 59(-1)
     LibreOffice              - 56(-1)
     Draw                     - 52(+0)
     Borders                  - 45(+0)
     Writer: perf             - 45(+0)
     UI                       - 44(+0)
     Base                     - 38(+1)
     Writer: other filter     - 31(+0)
     Writer: doc filter       - 27(+0)
     Chart                    - 26(-1)
     graphics stack           - 25(+0)
     Printing and PDF export  - 23(+0)
     RTL                      - 23(+0)
     filters and storage      - 19(+0)
     BASIC                    - 16(-1)
     framework                - 2(+0)
     Formula Editor           - 1(+0)
     sdk                      - 1(+0)
     Linguistic               - 0(-1)


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