[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2021-11-18

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Nov 18 15:40:44 UTC 2021


* Present:
     + Heiko, Hossein, Caolan, Kendy, Michael W, Michael S, Olivier, Stephan, Sophie, Xisco, Miklos, Cloph, Eike

* Completed Action Items:
     + None
* Pending Action Items:
     + None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.2 status: 7.2.3 rc2 has been tagged today, builds are running
     + 7.3 status: beta1 next week
       + late feature: curl based webdav possibly (Thorsten)
         + disabled on master by default currently
         + does it mean no UI changes? (Cloph)
           + then it could be enabled later, but sooner is the better
     + Remotes: Android (has new translations, though), iOS
     + Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents2
         + Refactoring by Johnny_M and ohallot
         + Updated by LibreOfficiant, ohallot, flywire
         + Special thanks to Mike Kaganski for very precise bug reports
     + Guides
         + Impress Guide 7.2 is ready and will be published soon
         + Calc guide 7.2 almost ready
     + Planning new easy hack: code snippets in offapi comments

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         250(250) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     10(2)     33(-3)   119(2)      331(-9)
          commented     40(7)    100(18)   452(7)     1702(10)
           resolved      2(-5)    15(-2)    56(0)      202(-8)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 30 changes in 1 month, and 474 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 6 changes in 1 month, and 134 changes in 1 year
           David Mark made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 4 changes in 1 month, and 404 changes in 1 year
           Radish made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
           Tomoyuki Kubota made 3 changes in 1 month, and 25 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 3 changes in 1 month, and 87 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 2 changes in 1 month, and 34 changes in 1 year
           Alex Sims made 2 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 2 changes in 1 month, and 27 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         256(256) (topicUI) bugs open, 161(161) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      8(3)     14(-5)    31(-5)      95(-3)
          commented     91(28)   180(-7)   576(-38)   3147(-11)
            removed      2(2)      4(2)      6(0)       38(2)
           resolved     10(4)     21(0)     71(-2)     451(-1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 112 changes in 1 month, and 2162 changes in 1 year
           Foote, V Stuart made 59 changes in 1 month, and 593 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 30 changes in 1 month, and 606 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 25 changes in 1 month, and 240 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 20 changes in 1 month, and 383 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 16 changes in 1 month, and 290 changes in 1 year
           Ming Hua made 14 changes in 1 month, and 53 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 12 changes in 1 month, and 172 changes in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 11 changes in 1 month, and 59 changes in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 10 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year

     + 20 New tickets with needsUXEval Nov/11-18
     [Bug 145745] Create a "Duplicate sheet" option in LO Calc
     [Bug 145744] Improve cell selection outline for better visibility
     [Bug 145739] Column tab of Table Properties dialog is confusing and frustrating
     [Bug 145738] Column width dialog doesn't allow setting width of all columns at once
     [Bug 145728] "Insert > Object > Bar Code..." menu should be "QR and Barcode..."
  -> [Bug 136123] No way for Glow and Soft Edge settings in drawing styles and
                  in any dialogs
     + the feature is not in ODF at the moment
     [Bug 145696] UI: Glow and soft edge effects has no tab on any dialog; apparently
                  only accessible from sidebar
     [Bug 145673] UI: comment box doesn't expand while typing instead)
     [Bug 145684] UI: Image deck is below 'effect' and shadow in draw
     [Bug 145682] UI: Maybe rename "Area" deck to "Area fill" and effect deck to 'glow
                  and soft edge effect'
     [Bug 145681] UI: shadow not available in as deck in Writer sidebar
     [Bug 145678] UI: Draw sidebar decks show Character and paragraph deck too;
                  writer doesn't
  -> [Bug 145674] UI: Image transparency not in image properties dialog
     [Bug 134293] Inconsistent double-click AutoFill behavior
     [Bug 139031] Some dropdowns in the PDF export dialog should be aligned better (kf5)
     [Bug 142519] Cannot set Impress comment directionality

    -> * Writer table cells have address scheme that differs from Calc,
         "A-Z,a-z,AB-AZ,..." vs "A-Z,AA-AZ,BA-BZ,..."; lowercase cell
          refs are more error prone for cell formulas
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145384
         + Writer tables have a reference system with lowercase letters after column Z
           + that does not comply with ODF, see
             https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145384#c27
         + Calc starts with uppercase AA after Z
         + Change it, breaking backwards compatibility?
           + no firm opinion (Michael S)
           + Writer tables are only used by power users, don't break compatibility (Miklos)
           + Writer formulas are not openformula, but something custom & undocumented (Michael S)
           + The references are documented (Eike)
             + quite some work to implement this correctly: read both the old and new markups and write the new correct one
         + would be confortable with a UI change if we don't break old documents (Miklos)
         + scope is smaller, it's only how we refer to formulas (Eike)
         + if we do a somewhat incompatible change, then fix the larget scope, switch to openformula (Michael S)
         + comment 27 has Eike's input
=> OK to switch to openformula in Writer tables if we don't break old documents and somebody steps up to do the work (all)

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 81(+74) import failure, 4(+0) export failures
      - some were (apparently) due to orcus upgrade
      - rest probably fixed with fix ofz#41081 divide by zero
     + 0 coverity issues
     + 5 ossfuzz issues, all timeouts

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.6.2
          + (+167) 1195 1028 1245 1145 1016 930 906 650 210 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.7.2
          + (+286) 472 186 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.1.2
          + (-223) 1166 1389 1372 1827 2068 2209 2042 1450 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.2.2
          + (+363) 2432 2069 1536 1134 752 0

    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/std::make_unique%3Csw::sidebar::WriterInspectorTextPanel,weld::Widget%20*%20&,0%3E

        - Since LibreOffice 7.2

        - no steps to repro yet


* Mentoring/EasyHack update (Hossein)
           committer...   1 week    1 month    3 months     12 months
                   open      67(0)      93(-1)    141(-1)       193(1)
                reviews     426(50)   1176(68)   3274(-106)    8946(212)
                 merged     349(64)   1421(59)   3755(33)     10733(205)
              abandoned      11(-1)     43(-1)    121(-18)      500(-18)
            own commits     247(11)   1126(-2)   3165(33)     12785(18)
         review commits     121(11)    425(72)   1021(22)      4314(23)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month    3 months   12 months
                   open      40(-11)     73(6)     131(1)      179(7)
                reviews     858(46)    3046(60)   8438(26)   24148(730)
                 merged      41(-5)     144(12)    494(37)    1326(177)
              abandoned       4(3)       16(4)     106(3)      369(32)
            own commits      73(-4)     205(61)    420(22)    1944(15)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)       0(0)        0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 277(277)
        total 332(332)   assigned 26(26)   open 276(276)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Johnny_M made 144 patches in 1 month, and 819 patches in 1 year
           Steve Fanning made 10 patches in 1 month, and 70 patches in 1 year
           Srebotnjak, Martin made 6 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
           Akshit Kushwaha made 6 patches in 1 month, and 29 patches in 1 year
           Kevin Suo made 6 patches in 1 month, and 30 patches in 1 year
           Nagy Tibor made 3 patches in 1 month, and 39 patches in 1 year
           Attila Szűcs made 3 patches in 1 month, and 28 patches in 1 year
           Henrik Palomäki made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           4k5h1t made 3 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Tomoyuki Kubota made 2 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Olivier Hallot made 180 review comments in 1 month, and 924 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 96 review comments in 1 month, and 632 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 94 review comments in 1 month, and 644 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 764 in 1 year
           McNamara, Caolán made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 394 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 524 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 48 review comments in 1 month, and 316 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 48 review comments in 1 month, and 382 in 1 year
           Vajngerl, Tomaž made 46 review comments in 1 month, and 434 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 44 review comments in 1 month, and 602 in 1 year
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           flywire

     + Mentoring

       * GSoC 2022 activities are starting gradually

       * We've already recieved a lot of emails from the students who want to work on LibreOffice (Ilmari handled them)

       * Contacted GSoC 2021 contributors to continue development

       * GSoC 2020 and 2021 contributors can enroll in GSoC 2022


     + EasyHack

       * Introduced 1 new EasyHack: "Use symbolic constants instead of magic numerical constants" (needs to be reviewed)

         https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145759

       * Published 1 blog post for the previous week's EasyHack

         https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2021/11/17/use-atan2-function-instead-of-atan-easyhack/


* Commit Access
   + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 19 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

   * Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
     from:Thu Nov 11 14:34:11 2021
     master linux rel  jobs: 127 ok: 124 ko:   3 fail ratio:  2.36 % break:   2 broken duration: 0.57%
     master linux dbg  jobs: 109 ok:  96 ko:  13 fail ratio: 11.93 % break:   8 broken duration:11.35%
     master mac rel    jobs: 102 ok:  86 ko:  16 fail ratio: 15.69 % break:   2 broken duration:18.46%
     master mac dbg    jobs: 109 ok:  92 ko:  17 fail ratio: 15.60 % break:   2 broken duration:16.03%
     master win rel    jobs:  85 ok:  84 ko:   1 fail ratio:  1.18 % break:   1 broken duration: 0.83%
     master win dbg    jobs:  90 ok:  89 ko:   1 fail ratio:  1.11 % break:   1 broken duration: 0.81%
     master win64 dbg  jobs:  86 ok:  85 ko:   1 fail ratio:  1.16 % break:   1 broken duration: 0.94%
     master gerrit lin jobs: 535 ok: 430 ko:  66 fail ratio: 12.34% time for ok: mean:  21 median:  19
     master gerrit plg jobs: 527 ok: 341 ko: 137 fail ratio: 26.00% time for ok: mean:  41 median:  38
     master gerrit win jobs: 564 ok: 381 ko: 122 fail ratio: 21.63% time for ok: mean:  65 median:  65
     master gerrit mac jobs: 534 ok: 414 ko:  74 fail ratio: 13.86% time for ok: mean:  30 median:  25
     master android    jobs: 497 ok: 405 ko:  43 fail ratio:  8.65% time for ok: mean:  31 median:  25
     master gerrit all jobs: 555 ok: 278 ko: 190 fail ratio: 34.23% time for ok: mean:  77 median:  72
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_211118.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test2                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge                gerrit_windows
       3 UITest_calc_tests8                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 UITest_impress_demo                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 UITest_signatureLine                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      22 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + usual week, no big problems
   + ci.libreoffice.org returned a gateway error earlier today
     + hopefully will be fixed once the host machine gets rebooted
   + build times on Windows are growing
     + plus 5 mins, but it's not visible in weekly average anymore
   + Is VS2022 faster? (Hossein)
     + may do some VS2019 vs VS2022 build time comparison
     + window server 2012 is used, not sure if VS2022 runs on that (Cloph)
     + good to research what c++ features we get with such an update (Miklos)

* l10n (Sophie)
    + will report feedback from translators on BZ
    + some xml checks fixes

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + merging feature/themesupport2 into master step by step (Miklos)
     + adds MSO-style theme support, focusing on Impress initially

* Budget 2022 (Xisco)
     + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2022
     + next step: ideas are welcome till the end of the year
     + earlier deadline? (Thorsten)
       + take list if ideas with estimates by end Nov
       + and have 2 weeks for the vote

* QA update (Xisco)

     + what is the date of the stats? (Hossein)
       + always Tuesdays (Miklos)

     + UNCONFIRMED: 1606 (+24)
         + enhancements: 251  (-5)
         + needsUXEval: 5 (-5)
         + haveBackTrace: 3 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 28 (+1)
         + documentation:  11 (+1)
         + android:  1 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  16 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
          None

      Old:
         + Calc disables header/footer or looses footer content when saves a spreadsheet ( part 2 )
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144940
             + Already assigned to Daniel

         + macOS: Can't save or open files using Finder dialog on Standard accounts on macOS 10.15 Catalina
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128233

         + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
           imported PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597

             + Thorsten looking at it Needs someone to volunteer to fix.
             + already listed here for 2 years, and many duplicates

     Fixed:
         + Writer crashes on exporting as PDF with its Range in PDF Options set to 'Selection'
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145584 (backported to 7.2.3)
             + Thanks to Julien Nabet

     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Crash swlo!IDocumentMarkAccess::IsLegalPaMForCrossRefHeadingBookmark+0x2681 at overwriting certain area
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145621
             + Michael S?

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +116  -25 (-93) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       15
        Caolán McNamara         10
        Eike Rathke             6
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Justin L                6
        Buovjaga                3
        Dieter                  3
        Xisco Faulí             3
        m.a.riosv               3
        Jim Raykowski           2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Telesto                 13
        NISZ LibreOffice Team   4
        Christopher Yeleighton  3
        Hossein                 2
        Regina Henschel         2
        Rizal Muttaqin          2
        bugs.documentfoundation-sammy 2
        Colin                   1
        Fritz R. Paul           1
        Jean-Michel COSTE       1

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        McNamara, Caolán        8
        Justin Luth             4
        Rathke, Eike            4
        Jim Raykowski           2
        Rizal Muttaqin          2
        Xisco Fauli             2
                                1
        *UNKNOWN*               1
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
        Andreas Heinisch        1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Dieter                  9
        Heiko Tietze            8
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      7
        m.a.riosv               5
        Akshit Sudheer Kumar    3
        Eyal Rozenberg          3
        Kevin Suo               3
        Nabet, Julien           3
        Xisco Fauli             3
                                2

* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
    + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
      6.0 : 1/53 -     1 %  (+0)
      5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
      5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.3 : 0/73 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
      4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
      4.0 : 2/83 -     2 %  (+0)
      old : 3/248 -    1 %  (+0)

* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   3
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Budea, Áron            1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Justin Luth            1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Kevin Suo              1

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   3
         Budea, Áron            2
         Kevin Suo              2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Weghorn, Michael       1

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1328(-9) bugs open of 11353(+11) total 15(-1) high prio.

      done by:
         Telesto                3
         Dieter                 1
         Emanuele Gissi         1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Henschel, Regina       1
         Xisco Fauli            1

* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 10(-1)
      Calc          - 3(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 14(-1)
      Linux         - 0(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 1(+0)

* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 445(-3)
      Calc                     - 234(-1)
      Impress                  - 140(-2)
      Writer: docx filter      - 56(+1)
      Crashes                  - 53(+0)
      UI                       - 51(+0)
      Draw                     - 50(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 50(-1)
      Borders                  - 44(-1)
      Writer: perf             - 41(+0)
      Base                     - 35(-2)
      Writer: other filter     - 35(+0)
      Chart                    - 29(+0)
      RTL                      - 27(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 23(-1)
      graphics stack           - 23(-1)
      Printing and PDF export  - 22(+0)
      filters and storage      - 19(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+1)
      Formula Editor           - 2(+0)
      framework                - 1(+0)
      sdk                      - 1(+0)


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