[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Apr-27

Heiko Tietze heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Thu Apr 28 05:50:28 UTC 2022

Present: Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Seth, Dieter, Cor, Csongor, Regina, Roman


  * Commands related to styles miscategorized in customization dialog
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=131760
    + patch submitted SID_TEMPLATE_LOAD -> Template,
      SID_STYLE_DESIGNER -> View (Seth)
    + another name like "Style Functions" might work as well (Eyal)
    => comment

  * Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148320
    + no issue, preview available (Dieter, Cor)
    + alternative is to have a checkbox "[x] Use title" and enable
      the input respectively
    + improve consistency, maybe novice user would not try to delete,
      label "Type and Title" is misleading, and we have enough space
      in the dialog (Eyal)
    => nice easyhack for beginner-

  * Need to make Insert cross-ref more accessible
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148648
    + alt+shift+R or C (Eyal)
    + (default) shortcuts are precious, but no preference from my side (Heiko)
    + alt+shift+R is assigned to View > Rulers (a single time function),
      would feel better to reassign this one (Heiko)
      + having this shortcut makes sense (Eyal)
    + don't mind but strongly encourage a shortcut for cross-reference (Eyal)
    => do it

  * Mark page center on horizontal and vertical rulers
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148128
    + no objection, useful idea (Cor, Csongor)
    + not a requirement for Writer and available in Draw/Impress (Heiko)
    + page center is not clear, eg. including the gutter? (Regina)
    + there is a snap function for the actual position of the shape
    + for tables, for example, it's also important to know where
      the center is (Eyal)
    + if we implement a positioning feature it should be one used across the app
      which is the snap lines in Draw; make positioning very flexible since the
      objects could be aligned to left/right of the center too (Heiko)
    + snaplines needs to be enhanced to also snap at the center of objects and
      to snap at the page center
    + centering an object in Writer is possible via Position & Size (also
      with option to consider or ignore the gutter)
    + still interesting to see where the center is; and it has a minor impact
      on UI/UX (Eyal)
    + center could be realized per printer marks but those depend on
      columns - what center is meant in case of columns or other content like
      sections, frames etc.?
      + bug is about center of page
    + a) suggest to split the bug into mark and snap and b) ask for input what
         center exactly is meant (page, text area, paragraph... or any)
    + prefer to not do (Heiko)
    => comment

  * UI: The No List button constantly highlighted when no some text isn't a list
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148790
    + standard mutually exclusive behavior, NAB (Heiko)
    + but typically positively defined, would prefer two buttons (Eyal)
      + easy to customize (hide button) and working well (Heiko)
    + having the No List button has not much benefit for the user and occupies
      space, so removing/hiding makes sense
    => check whether No List was added but recommend to remove

  * Rework the Sparklines dialog
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148568
    + Mockup provided (Roman)
    + looks good
    + vertical axis needs min/max labels, the caption and controls should become
      properly indented (ideally the first control right of the caption)
    + Axis should be Axes, Properties -> Basic Properties
    + this configuration would greatly benefit from a preview
    => comment
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