[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-01-27

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Jan 27 15:40:30 UTC 2022


* Present:
     + Sophie, Michael W, Ilmari, Hossein, Cloph, Gabriel, Stephan, Caolan, Olivier, Thorsten, Miklos, Heiko, Kendy, Michael S, Xisco

* Completed Action Items:
     + Reach out to potential GSoC mentors to review their ideas, in terms of project size (Ilmari)
     + wasm tinderbox to guard master, not feature/wasm (Cloph)

* Pending Action Items:
     + None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.3 status: 7.3.0 rc3 was tagged yesterday, builds are in progress
       + 7.3.1 rc1 in 2 weeks
     + 7.2 status: 7.2.6 rc1 in 3 weeks
     + Remotes: Android, iOS
     + Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help
        + Fixes and improvements (Ilmari)
     + Helpcontents2
        + Bug squash/fixes (R. Lima, A. Romedenne, A Barrientos, S. Chaiklin,
            eRack, Caolán, Jeff Huang, ohallot, ...)
        + several fixes after translation round.
        + Refactor for maintenability (Johnny_m)
        + Base Help pages
           + many outdated pages, re: connectors
           + What is the status of Firebird?
              + What can be documented for FB?
              + can have it as an embedded DB, also connect to it (Caolan)
              + it's what you get as the embedded DB if you don't have Java (Miklos)
     + Guides
         + Activity in Base Guide 7.3 (S. Fanning, V. Naranayan)
             + formatting and editing of original German book
             + also triggering QA activity, which is probably good (Xisco)
         + Update of Getting Started 7.3 (K Kriek, J. Weber)

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         238(238) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     12(-19)    66(-3)   113(3)      333(2)
          commented     59(-2)    226(47)   451(39)    1702(17)
           resolved      5(-5)     27(-1)    58(3)      201(2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Rafael Lima made 101 changes in 1 month, and 364 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 60 changes in 1 month, and 528 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 39 changes in 1 month, and 115 changes in 1 year
           gmarco made 19 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 17 changes in 1 month, and 199 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 16 changes in 1 month, and 62 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 14 changes in 1 month, and 90 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 13 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 9 changes in 1 month, and 95 changes in 1 year
           Nucleos made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         258(258) (topicUI) bugs open, 141(141) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      9(5)     11(6)     23(5)       75(3)
          commented     83(25)   209(31)   648(31)    2897(-16)
            removed      2(1)      3(2)      9(1)       36(-1)
           resolved      6(-8)    33(2)     88(1)      399(-10)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 174 changes in 1 month, and 1959 changes in 1 year
           Foote, V Stuart made 54 changes in 1 month, and 521 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 25 changes in 1 month, and 137 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 20 changes in 1 month, and 167 changes in 1 year
           Timur made 19 changes in 1 month, and 122 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 15 changes in 1 month, and 267 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 15 changes in 1 month, and 298 changes in 1 year
           MarjaE made 13 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 1 year
           Lucas J made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
           BogdanB made 7 changes in 1 month, and 101 changes in 1 year
     + 9 new tickets with needsUXEval Jan/20-27
       + [Bug 146968] Prototype UI for new Inking feature
   ->  + [Bug 146762] Should Tab and Shift-Tab change list level for first list item?
         + change tab at first list entry to not indent but also demote and introduce
           a new shortcut to indent everywhere
         + a bit concerned that the current behavior is matching Word (Miklos)
           + good to not break that
   ->  + [Bug 146910] [UI Enhance] ease to use the same font for Western and Asian
         + controversial discussion whether or not to drop CJK font option, likely WF
   ->  + [Bug 146937] Is the "refresh" command needed in the Template Manager?
         + no Refresh needed
       + [Bug 146892] Special fields appears correctly only without "outline 1" style
       + [Bug 134882] Calc: PageStyle: Fit print range to width/height is
              not expanding to the margins
   ->  + [Bug 146884] Export Paths should be saved in the Document
         + handle export path differently to where the document is saved last
       + [Bug 146872] Separator label in Bullets and Numbering Customize tab
              should be bold
       + [Bug 146870] ENHANCEMENT: Ability to export drawing as image to PDF
              (same was as happens with Redact PDF export)

   -> + patch submitted to give feedback on hidden row/col; potentially performance
        issue
        + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/128553

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 10(-82) import failure, 6(-1) export failures
      - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/125051 seems to be source of remaining "new" failures.
      - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/121924 for a demo of one of the "old" failures
     + 6 coverity issues
      - fixed for next build
     + 9 ossfuzz issues
      - 4 crashes, 5 timeouts

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.1.8.1
          + (+76) 1090 1014 907 493 137 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.4.1
          + (-184) 1055 1239 1783 1606 370 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.5.2
          + (+362) 1608 1246 691 0

    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/GrVkPipelineState::setAndBindInputAttachment(GrVkGpu%20*,GrVkRenderTarget%20*,GrVkCommandBuffer%20*)

        - SKIA. Since 7.2

        - might ring a bell for Lubos (Miklos)


* Mentoring/EasyHack update (Hossein)
           committer...   1 week    1 month     3 months   12 months
                   open      80(17)    122(18)     171(17)     226(19)
                reviews     414(38)   1368(34)    3372(86)   11342(274)
                 merged     327(74)   1236(-30)   4075(39)   13807(323)
              abandoned      11(-9)     68(-9)     181(-1)     645(11)
            own commits     285(78)   1038(63)    3192(77)   12668(6)
         review commits      94(35)    343(58)    1033(9)     4109(-15)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month    3 months    12 months
                   open      15(-5)      54(-7)    104(0)       200(1)
                reviews     866(186)   3010(64)   8882(190)   30754(716)
                 merged      30(24)      99(24)    311(-3)     1535(28)
              abandoned       2(0)       23(-6)     51(2)       413(2)
            own commits      36(32)     131(30)    458(-4)     1837(-2)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)       0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 283(283)
        total 334(334)   assigned 28(28)   open 277(277)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Johnny_M made 86 patches in 1 month, and 926 patches in 1 year
           Vaibhav Malik made 7 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
           Po-Yen Huang made 5 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
           Kevin Suo made 5 patches in 1 month, and 31 patches in 1 year
           Dhiraj Holden made 4 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Ramreiso Kashung made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Ismael Luceno made 3 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           scito made 2 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
           Attila Bakos made 2 patches in 1 month, and 29 patches in 1 year
           Olivier R made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Olivier Hallot made 174 review comments in 1 month, and 1242 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 134 review comments in 1 month, and 842 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 126 review comments in 1 month, and 640 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 914 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 756 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 458 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 792 in 1 year
           Rathke, Eike made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 276 in 1 year
           Hossein made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 164 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 48 review comments in 1 month, and 538 in 1 year
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Arjun Badola

* Updates on mentoring/EasyHack (Hossein)
   + 30 merged commits from the contributors, 17 code related changes, 1 new contributor
   + 1 new EasyHack to take a look
     Use std::size() instead of SAL_N_ELEMENTS() macro
     https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147021
   + 1 blog posts on Matrix bridge (LibreOffice Space members increased 8 -> 22)
     "Using a Matrix Bridge with LibreOffice IRC Channels"
     https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2022/01/25/using-a-matrix-bridge-with-libreoffice-irc-channels/

* GSoC 2022 (Ilmari)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + Org application deadline 21 Feb
   + Every idea needs a size definition and we need to have both medium (175 h) and large (350 h) ideas
     https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
   + GSoC 2022 page on Wiki is created:
     https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/2022

* Commit Access
   + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 4 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
     from:Thu Jan 20 15:07:26 2022
     master linux rel  jobs: 160 ok: 157 ko:   3 fail ratio:  1.87 % break:   3 broken duration: 1.45%
     master linux dbg  jobs: 126 ok: 119 ko:   7 fail ratio:  5.56 % break:   6 broken duration: 4.74%
     master mac rel    jobs: 118 ok:  46 ko:  72 fail ratio: 61.02 % break:   1 broken duration:61.73%
     master mac dbg    jobs: 120 ok:  50 ko:  70 fail ratio: 58.33 % break:   1 broken duration:61.25%
     master win rel    jobs:  86 ok:  83 ko:   1 fail ratio:  1.16 % break:   1 broken duration: 0.50%
     master win dbg    jobs:  96 ok:  93 ko:   1 fail ratio:  1.04 % break:   1 broken duration: 1.46%
     master win64 dbg  jobs:  91 ok:  80 ko:   9 fail ratio:  9.89 % break:   7 broken duration: 4.00%
     master gerrit lin jobs: 584 ok: 464 ko:  94 fail ratio: 16.10% time for ok: mean:  21 median:  17
     master gerrit plg jobs: 535 ok: 370 ko: 129 fail ratio: 24.11% time for ok: mean:  44 median:  41
     master gerrit win jobs: 642 ok: 358 ko: 224 fail ratio: 34.89% time for ok: mean:  75 median:  74
     master gerrit mac jobs: 590 ok: 456 ko:  90 fail ratio: 15.25% time for ok: mean:  33 median:  31
     master android    jobs: 534 ok: 439 ko:  65 fail ratio: 12.17% time for ok: mean:  27 median:  16
     master gerrit all jobs: 589 ok: 263 ko: 256 fail ratio: 43.46% time for ok: mean:  95 median:  88
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_220127.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_sd_tiledrendering                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sw_tiledrendering                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 UITest_chart2                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 UITest_signatureLine                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 UITest_writer_tests3                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       8 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + not too bad week, really
   + still couple of builds killed by the kill-wrapper
   + DNS outage on Tuesday, and one Mac broke
   + Might try to tweak a Windows bot to avoid 2 parallel builds

* l10n (Sophie)
   + online/HTML Help 7.3 updated (likely final for 7.3.0) (Olivier)
   + will update master project after 7.3.0 is tagged/done (Cloph)

* FOSDEM 2022 (Italo)
   + next weekend!
   + lightning talk slot can happen (Thorsten)
     + if you have something cool to show, then send a video link to Thorsten

* Remove Beanshell and Rhino (Ilmari)
   + After the discussion on the list I support the removals (Ilmari)
   + Deprecation can be announced in 7.3 release notes
   + Would be nice to have a more modern JS engine, but Michael S mentions our JS environment is very Java-specific
   + don't assume that wasm solves a problem in this context (Thorsten)
     + it's just one more runtime
     + if you're an extension developer, there is no real benefit
     + but it's a nice hack!
   + would be good to have an overview idea: what we exactly want beyond basic macros (Thorsten)
     + to avoid removing all automation features bit by bit
     + beanshell is useful to protype Java code
   + Rhino would be nice to have still, for those who want to use it (Michael S)
     + once it's an extension, it requires almost no maintenance
       + isn't there a danger there that we still have to fix it if it breaks? (Miklos)
         + not concerned that we'll break it if we don't break the API (Michael S)
       + GSoC idea perhaps? (Caolan)
AI: file a GSoC idea (Michael S, Hossein, Samuel?)
     + similar to the saxon-based xslt
       + the libxslt replacement only supports 1.0 (not 2.0)
       + David T created the extension that supports 2.0
   + officebeans removal? (Hossein)
     + knows people who use it (Thorsten)
     + agreed (Miklos)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + gbuild now tries to do less pointless incremental rebuilds (Michael S)

* QA update (Xisco)

     + UNCONFIRMED: 1667 (-10)
         + enhancements: 260  (+1)
         + needsUXEval: 6 (+2)
         + haveBackTrace: 5 (-1)
         + needsDevAdvice: 27 (+0)
         + documentation:  11 (+0)
         + android:  1 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  10 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
         + Empty/white pages when printing (skia)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146842
             + Lubos?
      Old:
         + Slow typing with version 7.1 or above on Windows 11
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145963
             + Lubos?
             + seems to be Windows 11-only

         + macOS: Can't save or open files using Finder dialog on Standard accounts on macOS 10.15 Catalina
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128233

         + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
           imported PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
             + already listed here for 2 years, and many duplicates
     Fixed:


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Writer hung when inserting image larger than page
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=137920
             + Miklos to take a look

         + Collabora Office - no new embedded database can be created with database wizard (macOS)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140284
             + already closed (firebird was experimental in 7.1)

         + LibreOffice only opens in Safe Mode, UI render default no Skia on Windows 11
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145803
             + needs bisecting

         + Writer: ToC Index updating hangs
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146875
             + Michael S?

         + FILEOPEN PPTX: various graphical elements misplaced at position (0,0)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146876
             + already fixed, thanks to Noel

         + Insert chart -> crash (gtk3)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146991
             + already fixed, thanks to Noel

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +142  -2 (-112) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Timur                   11
        Buovjaga                9
        raal                    8
        Caolán McNamara         7
        Julien Nabet            6
        V Stuart Foote          6
        Heiko Tietze            5
        Mike Kaganski           4
        Telesto                 4
        m.a.riosv               4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Telesto                 12
        Albrecht Müller         5
        NISZ LibreOffice Team   5
        Jim Avera               3
        Kevin Suo               3
        Xisco Faulí             3
        Jérôme                  2
        Lai-Verne               2
        pb                      2
        raal                    2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        McNamara, Caolán        7
        Kelemen, Gabor          3
                                2
        *UNKNOWN*               2
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Kevin Suo               2
        Melenchuk, Vasily       2
        Németh, László          2
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
        Andreas Heinisch        1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Raal                    17
        Timur                   14
        Xisco Fauli             12
        Dieter                  7
        Heiko Tietze            7
        Faure, Jean-Baptiste    6
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      6
        Nabet, Julien           5
        Németh, László          5
        Rafael Lima             4

* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
    + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
      6.0 : 1/53 -     1 %  (+0)
      5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
      5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.3 : 0/73 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
      4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
      4.0 : 2/83 -     2 %  (+0)
      old : 2/247 -    0 %  (+0)

* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Xisco Fauli            7
         Timur                  4
         Raal                   4
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Kelemen, Gabor         2
         Terrence Enger         2
         Aron Budea             1
         Kevin Suo              1

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Xisco Fauli             6
         Timur                   4
         Raal                    4
         Kevin Suo               3
         Ilmari Lauhakangas      2
         Kelemen, Gabor          2
         NISZ LibreOffice Team   2
         Terrence Enger          2
         Aron Budea              1

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1304(+14) bugs open of 11521(+28) total 12(+1) high prio.

      done by:
         Timur                   5
         Telesto                 5
         Raal                    4
         Kelemen, Gabor          2
         NISZ LibreOffice Team   2
         phv                     2
         Kevin Suo               2
         Xisco Fauli             2
         Aron Budea              1
         Hossein                 1

* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 8(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+1)
      Calc          - 1(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 10(+0)
      Linux         - 0(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+1)

* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 444(+4)
      Calc                     - 221(+4)
      Impress                  - 133(+1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 56(+1)
      LibreOffice              - 50(+3)
      UI                       - 49(+0)
      Crashes                  - 47(+0)
      Draw                     - 46(-2)
      Borders                  - 41(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 38(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 37(+1)
      Base                     - 35(+1)
      Chart                    - 30(+0)
      RTL                      - 28(+1)
      Printing and PDF export  - 22(+1)
      Writer: doc filter       - 22(+0)
      graphics stack           - 22(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      filters and storage      - 17(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 2(+0)
      framework                - 1(+0)
      sdk                      - 1(+0)


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