[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-05-05

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu May 5 14:55:38 UTC 2022


* Present:
     + Heiko, Caolan, Cloph, Hossein, Stephan, Sophie, Thorsten, Miklos, Olivier, Michael S, Xisco, Kendy, Eike, Lubos, Gabriel

* Completed Action Items:
     + None

* Pending Action Items:
     + None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.4 status: alpha for 7.4.0 next week, feature freeze in June
     + 7.3 status: 7.3.3 was released as final
     + 7.2 status: 7.2.7 rc2 to be tagged later today
     + Remotes: Android, iOS
     + Android viewer

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help (no news)
     + Helpcontent2
        + updates and fixes (S. Chaiklin, ohallot, Adolfo...)
        + ScripForge help (A. Romedenne, flywire)
     + Guides
        + Updates in Base Guide 7.4 (ohallot, S. Fanning, flywire)
        + Impress and Draw Guides (P. Schofield, K. Kriek)

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         228(228) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     24(20)   59(5)     118(5)      333(4)
          commented     36(28)   92(27)    264(16)    1447(5)
           resolved      5(4)    32(-2)     64(0)      221(-3)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Seth Chaiklin made 101 changes in 1 month, and 145 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 53 changes in 1 month, and 493 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 14 changes in 1 month, and 34 changes in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 14 changes in 1 month, and 88 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 12 changes in 1 month, and 100 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 11 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 7 changes in 1 month, and 80 changes in 1 year
           Henschel, Regina made 6 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 5 changes in 1 month, and 85 changes in 1 year
           Németh, László made 3 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         274(274) (topicUI) bugs open, 85(85) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
              added     10(4)      19(0)     32(3)       60(4)
          commented     74(-14)   289(51)   672(15)    2604(28)
            removed      1(-1)      8(2)     17(1)       41(2)
           resolved      4(-7)     33(2)     92(-11)    380(-4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 230 changes in 1 month, and 1909 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 101 changes in 1 month, and 162 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 57 changes in 1 month, and 298 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 45 changes in 1 month, and 232 changes in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 30 changes in 1 month, and 100 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 28 changes in 1 month, and 162 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 27 changes in 1 month, and 91 changes in 1 year
           Robert Großkopf made 13 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year
           Timur made 12 changes in 1 month, and 114 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 12 changes in 1 month, and 256 changes in 1 year
  ->  + [Bug 148934] TOC hyperlinks not compliant with PDF/UA, no <alt> contents
         + add <alt> to ToC hyperlinks for PDF/UA compliance
      + [Bug 148299] Master Document: Give warning, if filename/path of a subdocument
             has consecutive spaces
  ->  + [Bug 148153] Frame should respect page margins
         + should "keep inside text boundaries" also respect left/right margins?
         + make sure to consider layout compatibility (Miklos)
      + [Bug 146445] Change behaviour of anchor to character in an empty paragraph
             (see comment 15)
  ->  + [Bug 148867] The difficulty to select a whole Table in order to manipulate
             its properties
         + tender https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113603
  ->  + [Bug 148848] Make "Auto Spellcheck" a module-level or document-level option
         + recommended change
      + [Bug 145596] provide word count annotation to document canvas, alternative
             to current line count

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 10(+0) import failure, 3(+0) export failures
       + crashtesting vm unavailable (8 weeks)
       + any updates on this?
         + right now waiting for remote hands (Cloph)
         + Guilhem / Nicolas working on this (Thorsten)
     + 0 coverity issues
     + 19 ossfuzz issues (down from 28 yesterday)
       + 4 crashes

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.6.2
          + (-2) 779 781 522 558 428 373 166 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.1.3
          + (-27) 1119 1146 986 1887 2139 1652 1345 810 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.2.2
          + (+148) 2249 2101 1664 934 0

    + Fixed a couple of EXCEPTION_INT_DIVIDE_BY_ZERO
    + waiting for the result of 7.3.3 next week

* Mentoring/EasyHack update (Hossein)
           committer...   1 week     1 month      3 months     12 months
                   open      68(-17)    124(-17)     126(-18)      129(-18)
                reviews     316(-46)   1088(-140)   3482(-118)   12528(-82)
                 merged     292(26)    1176(-37)    3886(-57)    15676(-33)
              abandoned      20(6)       56(-15)     314(4)        826(-3)
            own commits     240(42)     903(28)     2896(-41)    12488(0)
         review commits      31(-4)     158(-27)     731(-44)     3654(-28)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months     12 months
                   open      14(-11)     56(-6)       57(-7)        59(-8)
                reviews     764(-8)    2816(-190)   9022(-146)   34396(-154)
                 merged       9(1)       39(-2)      197(-4)      1395(-28)
              abandoned       5(-6)      31(-53)     182(1)        456(-7)
            own commits       9(6)       30(-5)      247(-3)      1446(-9)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)          0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 303(303)
        total 366(366)   assigned 18(18)   open 319(319)
     + top 10 contributors:
           xuenhua made 6 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Attila Bakos made 3 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
           Batmunkh Dorjgotov made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           flywire made 2 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
           Vincent Reher made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Isha Desai made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Kevin Suo made 1 patches in 1 month, and 36 patches in 1 year
           Dhiraj Holden made 1 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           Vaibhav Malik made 1 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
           Nick Wingate made 1 patches in 1 month, and 1 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Michael Stahl made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 1214 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 946 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 794 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 580 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 884 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 758 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 610 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 292 in 1 year
           Hossein - made 48 review comments in 1 month, and 228 in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 38 review comments in 1 month, and 122 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         update hunspell dictionaries for Turkish language ( Ali Safaya )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/118649
         tdf#51665: (WIP) Support diagonal borders in Writer-Tables ( Bayram Çiçek )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/120262
             - was part of a GSoC work, would be a pity to loose this (Heiko)
             - author mentioned to Hossein that the intention is to finish it (Hossein)
             - poked Bayram on Telegram (Heiko)
         Introduce fpicker test for win32 as an executable ( Hossein )
             - Restored, marked as work-in-progress
             - It is not yet complete
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/126907
         SwNavigator: grey out headings that are not visible in the document ( Jim Raykowski )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/126991
         debug check for SolarMutex when modifying SfxItemPool ( Luboš Luňák )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/130426
         tdf#145967: Add an infobar for files embedded with restricted fonts ( Ramreiso Kashung )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/130532
     + worried that this list is not reviewed (Xisco)
       + just reading the list through is not enough
       + Hossein can review patches from non-committers
       + not worried about changes from committers (Caolan)
       + would focus on changes which are ~done, just not reviewed (Xisco)
     + what is the way to mark the change as "don't abandon this"? (Hossein)
       + 1 month change -> no reply -> abandon in 1 month
     + what is the problem: maybe a matter of documentation? (Lubos)
       + perhaps the author is afraid to "ping", while this is OK
       + if author is not a committer, no reply from reviewers -> flag that
     + every case is different, but perhaps can improve the message (Xisco)
     + e.g. what will happen next? when? what to do to avoid that? (Hossein)
AI: create wiki to page to describe these + then link to that from gerrit comments (Hossein)
     + ideally if the abandon has to happen, then abandon it early, not later by pootle bot (Ilmari)

   + LibreOffice Gerrit Quiz
     + learning material from Ilmari and Hossein:
       https://moodle.documentfoundation.org/course/view.php?id=6
     + also plan to use this in the future to see the current knowledge level of a new contributor
   + New dev blog post (draft)
     String types in LibreOffice C/C++ code
     https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=116&preview=1&_ppp=4c588c899d

* GSoC (Hossein/Ilmari)
     + Timeline: https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
     + May 12th is the deadline for the slot request

* Commit Access
   + None

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 17 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
     from:Thu Apr 28 13:53:00 2022
     master linux rel  jobs: 126 ok: 126 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master linux dbg  jobs:  96 ok:  91 ko:   2 fail ratio:  2.08 % break:   2 broken duration: 1.48%
     master mac rel    jobs:  25 ok:  24 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master mac dbg    jobs:  27 ok:  25 ko:   1 fail ratio:  3.70 % break:   1 broken duration: 5.56%
     master win rel    jobs:  63 ok:  63 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master win dbg    jobs:  73 ok:  73 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master win64 dbg  jobs:  68 ok:  68 ko:   0 fail ratio:  0.00 % break:   0 broken duration: 0.00%
     master gerrit lin jobs: 525 ok: 426 ko:  75 fail ratio: 14.29% time for ok: mean:  24 median:  21
     master gerrit plg jobs: 506 ok: 347 ko: 113 fail ratio: 22.33% time for ok: mean:  58 median:  54
     master gerrit win jobs: 601 ok: 362 ko: 178 fail ratio: 29.62% time for ok: mean:  67 median:  63
     master gerrit mac jobs: 561 ok: 415 ko:  60 fail ratio: 10.70% time for ok: mean:  43 median:  37
     master android    jobs: 505 ok: 405 ko:  67 fail ratio: 13.27% time for ok: mean:  32 median:  26
     master gerrit all jobs: 571 ok: 264 ko: 219 fail ratio: 38.35% time for ok: mean: 152 median: 152
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_220505.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_services                gerrit_mac
       3 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter6                gerrit_mac
       3 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 UITest_calc_tests6                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter6                gerrit_windows
       6 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 JunitTest_chart2_unoapi                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 CppunitTest_sc_macros_test                gerrit_windows
       7 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge                gerrit_windows
       8 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      24 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter2                gerrit_windows
      44 CppunitTest_sdext_pdfimport                gerrit_windows started April 28
   + good news: kill-wrapper killed much less tests this week
   + sw_layoutwriter2 failures: new Windows test -> reverted now
   + sdext_pdfimport failures: not sure if this is related to font changes -> still outstanding

* l10n (Sophie)
   + no updates

* List of developers invited to LibOCon
   + how should we proceed? (Sophie)
   + what does it mean that one is invited? (Miklos)
     + usually a guesture towards volunteers (Sophie)
   + need ~15 names
   + do we pay travel/expenses for them? (Caolan)
     + yes (Sophie)
     + so most useful to people who are far away, perhaps
   + ideal would be e.g. first-time contributors (Thorsten)
     + perhaps good to create some sort of criteria
   + if you have good ideas who to invite, send those names to Sophie? (Miklos)
     + good idea (Thorsten)
   + deadline for suggestions is mid-June (Sophie)
   + would also need 2-3 people to review suggestions
     + can help (Stephan, Lubos, Michael S)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + 16k cols in Calc (Lubos)
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133764
   + MSO-style data tables for charts (Tomaz)
     + see initial commits in master
   + Working on SmartArt (Armin)
     + hope to get a blog post out soon regarding the current state
     + any news on this? (Heiko)
       + expecting it soon (Michael S)
   + Adding content controls to Writer (Miklos)
     + inline <w:sdt> in DOCX, focusing on the rich text/checkbox/dropdown types
   + feature/scaling-geometry-provider (Jan-Marek)
     + focusing on Wayland
     + scenario: multiple monitors with different DPI scaling factor, handle that
   + PDF Accessibility checker (PDF/UA) (olivier)
     + Need PDF/UA checker
        + How good is veraPDF (FOSS) https://verapdf.org/ for validation
        + other suggestions for PDF/UA checkers
        + the tool would be used to check the result of the work
     + Need assistance to write PDF/UA checker tender
        + expert in a11y welcome to help me
     + Jan-Marek created a bug about this (Xisco)

         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136822

       + might have some experience here

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1737 (-95)
         + enhancements: 269  (+5)
         + needsUXEval: 8 (+1)
         + haveBackTrace: 6 (-2)
         + needsDevAdvice: 28 (+0)
         + documentation:  14 (+5)
         + android:  3 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  10 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
         None
      Old:
         + macOS: Can't save or open files using Finder dialog on Standard accounts on macOS 10.15 Catalina
            + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128233
            + started to happen with a new macOS version
            + somebody has to do the work to keep up with the new Apple requirements
              + sometimes this works, sometimes now (Stephan)


     Removing from the list:

         + Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian) from
           imported PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not behaving
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104597
             + To be tendered in 2022: https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00400.html

     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + In Tools > Options > View - add an option to control appearance of context-sensitive toolbars (on, off, automatic)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38850
             + feature request
             + easyhack? hints welcome!

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +104  +31 (-132) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       17
        Buovjaga                14
        Xisco Faulí             13
        Justin L                7
        Timur                   7
        Michael Warner          6
        sdc.blanco              6
        Michael Weghorn         5
        Dieter                  4
        Heiko Tietze            4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Telesto                 9
        sdc.blanco              8
        Timur                   4
        Roman Kuznetsov         3
        Adalbert Hanßen         2
        Michael Weghorn         2
        Rafael Lima             2
        SheetJS                 2
        healthtipslive          2
        jj201                   2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Xisco Fauli             10
        Justin Luth             6
        Seth Chaiklin           6
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Henschel, Regina        2
        Kaganski, Mike          2
        NISZ LibreOffice Team   2
        Nabet, Julien           2
        Németh, László          2
        Weghorn, Michael        2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Xisco Fauli             76
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      20
        Dieter                  11
        Ezinne Nnamani          7
        Roman Kuznetsov         7
        Timur                   7
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Raal                    4
        Weghorn, Michael        3
        *UNKNOWN*               2

* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
    + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
      6.0 : 1/53 -     1 %  (+0)
      5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.1 : 1/36 -     2 %  (+0)
      5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.3 : 0/73 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
      4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
      4.0 : 2/83 -     2 %  (+0)
      old : 1/246 -    0 %  (+0)

* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Telesto                4
         Aron Budea             3
         Raal                   3
         Martin Srdoš           2
         Roman Kuznetsov        1
         Andreas Heinisch       1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Xisco Fauli            1

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Aron Budea             3
         Raal                   3
         Telesto                3
         Martin Srdoš           2
         Roman Kuznetsov        1
         Andreas Heinisch       1
         Timur                  1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Weghorn, Michael       1

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1269(+12) bugs open of 11743(+18) total 11(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Telesto                6
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Roman Kuznetsov        1
         Andreas Heinisch       1
         Aron Budea             1
         Dieter                 1
         Timur                  1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         phv                    1

* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 6(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 2(+0)
      Calc          - 1(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 9(+0)
      Linux         - 0(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)

* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 454(+9)
      Calc                     - 204(+2)
      Impress                  - 121(+4)
      Writer: docx filter      - 60(+0)
      Crashes                  - 56(+1)
      LibreOffice              - 53(+1)
      UI                       - 46(+1)
      Draw                     - 43(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 40(+0)
      Borders                  - 37(+1)
      Base                     - 34(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 34(+1)
      Chart                    - 25(+0)
      RTL                      - 24(+1)
      Writer: doc filter       - 21(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 20(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+1)
      filters and storage      - 16(+0)
      graphics stack           - 16(-1)
      Formula Editor           - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)
      framework                - 1(+0)
      sdk                      - 1(+0)


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