[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-09-29

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Sep 29 12:36:04 UTC 2022


* Present:
     + in-person meeting in Milan
     + Miklos, Mike Sa., Xisco, Tomaž, Eyal, Caolán, Heiko, Olivier, Jean-Pierre,
       Uwe, Armin, Koji, Ilmari, Kendy, Luboš, Shinji, Juan, Michael S., Dennis,
       Leif-Joren, Gabriel, Zdeněk, László, Arnaud, Hossein, Raal

* Questions from the audience
   + How do you decide what gets into the agenda?

       + ESC calls are open, you can add items to the pad + join the jitsi call (Cloph)

       + Xisco brought the macOS/firebird/app store problem to the ESC to have a decision on it

     + As somebody who does QA work, it never accured to him to take some problem to the ESC

       + what is the criteria to raise it in this call?

       + many parts of the project has their own meetings, there is no fixed rule (Cloph)

       + ESC has a qa section (Kendy)

         + high severity issues + most pressing problems discussed there

         + "which bugs to discuss" is a defined criteria

         + agenda has these prepared

       + buzilla is the right place to discuss issues (Xisco)

         + a small subset will be discussed in the ESC call

     + What discussions need a decision from the ESC?

       + usually we just do changes to master if it's not a large-scale change (Cloph)

       + then bugfixes get backported to release branches

         + when do you create release branches?

         + LibreOffice has a time-based release schedule (Kendy)

         + Cloph creates release shedules well ahead of time, 2 major releases each year

         + so allows people to get their feature in time into master

           + if an exception is needed: late feature way, if we know the feature will be late by e.g. 1-2 weeks

           + it's always an option to make a feature experimental on the release branch, to help users who would use the feature by accident


* Completed Action Items:
     + None

* Pending Action Items:
     + Enable firebird as non-experimental for macOS app store builds (Cloph)
       + pondered if it is worth doing, but otherwise would have no options at all
       + not needed for the address book / mail merge functionality
       + Base is just not used for many users

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.4 status: 7.4.2 rc2 in 1 week
     + 7.3 status: 7.3.7 rc1 in 2 weeks
       + last planned 7.3.x release
     + Appstores
       + Windows: still waiting for confirmation wrt system-wide install of fonts
       + macOS is published

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help: No news
     + Helpcontents2:
         + Updates and fixes (R. Lima, A; Timar, A Barrientos)
     + Guides
         + Work in progress

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         241(241) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
            created      9(3)     34(4)      80(0)      308(-2)
          commented     11(-13)   71(5)     174(0)     1266(-72)
           resolved      4(3)     15(3)      37(-2)     197(2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Rafael Lima made 37 changes in 1 month, and 245 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 35 changes in 1 month, and 487 changes in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 11 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 11 changes in 1 month, and 100 changes in 1 year
           Tuomas Hietala made 10 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 9 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 8 changes in 1 month, and 37 changes in 1 year
           Foote, V Stuart made 8 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 7 changes in 1 month, and 89 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 7 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         273(273) (topicUI) bugs open, 59(59) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      15(9)     21(11)    27(11)      50(11)
          commented     130(72)   287(88)   537(93)    2228(63)
            removed       1(1)      4(0)      8(0)       33(1)
           resolved       8(-1)    33(0)     75(1)      316(4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 185 changes in 1 month, and 1547 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 75 changes in 1 month, and 174 changes in 1 year
           Foote, V Stuart made 60 changes in 1 month, and 277 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 50 changes in 1 month, and 131 changes in 1 year
           Timur made 48 changes in 1 month, and 121 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 26 changes in 1 month, and 184 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 22 changes in 1 month, and 214 changes in 1 year
           steve made 18 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 18 changes in 1 month, and 173 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 12 changes in 1 month, and 143 changes in 1 year
     + Remove EmojiControl
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151197
       + EmojiOne font was removed in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/140623
       + it was an obsolete one anyway
       + there is also an emoji toolbar that was connected to this
         + perhaps delegate that task to the OS and be done with that?
         + won't miss the emjoi toolbar (Caolan)

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 56(-146) import failure, 12(-8) export failures
       + expect further improvements, 2 recent fixes went in, result of that is not yet reflected here
       + at least there are now real failures, not something due to missing disk space
     + 0 coverity issues
       + first time in 1.5 years \o/
     + 9 Google / ossfuzz: 1 outstanding crash

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.5.2
          + (-31) 1341 1372 1299 1129 1355 1196 866 550 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.6.2
          + (+78) 391 313 139 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.0.3
          + (-411) 786 1197 1114 864 528 0
    + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.4.1.2
          + (+419) 1202 783 0


      + Regression in 7.4

     https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/void%20rtl::str::release%3C_rtl_uString%3E(_rtl_uString*)


* Mentoring/easyhack update (Hossein)
           committer...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      66(-20)     126(-15)    129(-14)     138(-14)
                reviews     296(-130)   1294(52)    2978(-6)    11996(6)
                 merged     277(-86)    1366(8)     3333(-38)   15396(-8)
              abandoned      18(3)        75(11)     170(1)       837(12)
            own commits     204(-62)    1030(-15)   2473(21)    11793(-42)
         review commits      49(-29)     246(6)      593(-10)    3143(4)
         contributor...   1 week      1 month     3 months     12 months
                   open     118(35)      190(49)     196(45)       207(47)
                reviews     758(-252)   3214(-48)   7620(-124)   33204(-78)
                 merged      20(-4)       81(-9)     255(11)       979(-15)
              abandoned       5(-1)       22(5)       70(-3)       378(0)
            own commits      17(-10)      81(-2)     198(6)       1065(7)
         review commits       0(0)         0(0)        0(0)          0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 309(309)
        total 372(372)   assigned 13(13)   open 329(329)
     + top 10 contributors:
             made 13 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 11 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
           Paris Oplopoios made 7 patches in 1 month, and 75 patches in 1 year
           Povilas Kanapickas made 4 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
           Javier Salamanca made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Chenxiong Qi made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Dante DM made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Radhey Parekh made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Juan C. Sanz made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Aron Fischer made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           McNamara, Caolán made 150 review comments in 1 month, and 734 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 900 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 404 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 746 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 1024 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 868 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 1100 in 1 year
           Vajngerl, Tomaž made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 398 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 298 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 62 review comments in 1 month, and 502 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#138302: support for list overrides in DOC export ( Vasily Melenchuk )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/116516
         tdf#70423 remove limit for the max number of characters in paragraphs ( Zoltán Szatmáry )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/137302
         Fix html code in SF String service ( Rafael Lima )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/137329
         vcl: AnimationRenderer::mpPt -> maOriginPt ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/76427
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Aron Fischer
* Commit Access
   + None
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Kendy/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 2 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + opencl cleanups: last sequence of patches are pending in gerrit (Lubos)
   + Writer content controls, PDF export work is still in progress (Miklos)

* BoD asks whether we can re-evaluate LOOL atticisation (Stephan)
     + see <https://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/board-discuss/2022/msg00744.html> for details: "the board resolves to postpone formally atticizing
       Online for three more months. Unless the de-atticization requirements
       (3 different developers contributing non-trivially) are fulfilled by then, and/or
       if necessary binding corporate commitments are not made by 2022-10-01, Online
       will be automatically moved to the attic."
     + apparently some activity at <https://github.com/freeonlineoffice/online>
     => ran out of time, will discuss it next week

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1744 (+11)
         + enhancements: 287  (+10)
         + needsUXEval: 11 (+9)
         + haveBackTrace: 6 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 27 (+1)
         + documentation:  10 (+1)
         + android:  3 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  13 (+1)
     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
      Old:
      Fixed:


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Calc crash when cut-paste and drag cell
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151182
             + Lubos?

         + Text layout broken across formatting changes (color, underline, etc.)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61444
             + not a regression?
             + will be mentioned with some examples in "resolution independent text layout in writer"

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +113  +41 (-124) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        خالد حسني               13
        QA Administrators       9
        Mike Kaganski           8
        Justin L                7
        Timur                   7
        Eike Rathke             6
        Julien Nabet            6
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 5
        Xisco Faulí             5
        Caolán McNamara         4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Eyal Rozenberg          8
        Kevin Suo               5
        Telesto                 4
        Mike Kaganski           3
        Jeff Fortin Tam         2
        Nik Gervae              2
        Rafael Lima             2
        Roman Kuznetsov         2
        SheetJS                 2
        Xisco Faulí             2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Kaganski, Mike          6
        خالد حسني               5
        Justin Luth             4
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 3
        Grandin, Noel           3
        McNamara, Caolán        3
        Weghorn, Michael        3
        Xisco Fauli             3
        Sarper Akdemir          2
        Andras Timar            1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Rafael Lima             16
        Nabet, Julien           7
        Timur                   6
        Dieter                  5
        Xisco Fauli             5
        Raal                    4
        Foote, V Stuart         3
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Rathke, Eike            3
        خالد حسني               3

* Highest-Priority bugs (aka "MABs"):
    + http://bit.ly/2lJAAJI
      6.0 : 1/53 -     1 %  (+0)
      5.4 : 0/41 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.3 : 0/54 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.2 : 0/43 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.1 : 0/35 -     0 %  (+0)
      5.0 : 0/64 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.4 : 0/76 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.3 : 0/73 -     0 %  (+0)
      4.2 : 2/134 -    1 %  (+0)
      4.1 : 3/85 -     3 %  (+0)
      4.0 : 2/83 -     2 %  (+0)
      old : 1/246 -    0 %  (+0)

* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   3
         Timur                  3
         Aron Budea             1
         Kevin Suo              1
         Xisco Fauli            1

* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   3
         Timur                  3
         Kevin Suo              2
         Aron Budea             1
         Ming Hua               1
         Xisco Fauli            1

* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1188(-6) bugs open of 12030(+12) total 8(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Raal                   2
         Kevin Suo              2
         Timur                  2
         Aron Budea             1
         Dieter                 1
         Ming Hua               1
         Stéphane Guillou       1
         Telesto                1
         Foote, V Stuart        1
         Xisco Fauli            1

* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 5(+0)
      Calc          - 1(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 7(+0)
      Linux         - 0(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 1(+0)

* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 427(-2)
      Calc                     - 195(+0)
      Impress                  - 118(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 59(+0)
      Crashes                  - 53(+2)
      LibreOffice              - 47(+0)
      Draw                     - 41(-1)
      UI                       - 39(+1)
      Base                     - 36(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 36(-1)
      Borders                  - 34(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 31(+0)
      Chart                    - 23(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 20(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 17(+0)
      filters and storage      - 14(+0)
      graphics stack           - 13(-1)
      Formula Editor           - 3(+0)
      framework                - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)
      sdk                      - 1(+0)


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