[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-08-31

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Aug 31 14:40:30 UTC 2023


* Present:
     + Heiko, Olivier, Caolan, Gabriel, Ilmari, Khaled, Michael W, Michael S, Stephan, Cloph, Stephane, Thorsten, Miklos, Gabriel, Eike

* Completed Action Items:
     + Fix gdb pretty-printers on tb99 (Cloph)
       + added the allow line to .gdbinit, also on the other bots as well

* Pending Action Items:
     + Try gtk4 local builds, Qt6 local builds (Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6 status: 7.6.1 rc2 in 1 week?
     + 7.5 status: 7.5.6 rc2 this week, tag was done yesterday
     + update for the impress remote for Android
       + addressing the new play store requirement
     + AI: update the core.git README.md with the new Linux baseline (Cloph)

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + New Help
        + No news
     + Helpcontents2
        + Updates on UI commands (ohallot)
        + Fixes of HIDs x pages (ohallot, R Lima)
           + Q: one help page per UNO command?
           + sounds sensible (Miklos)
           + would be good to find an example to follow that plays nicely with the help (Miklos)
        + ScriptForge updates (R. Lima)
        + Note: Python Help support since long time.
     + Guides
        + New books from Spanish Com'ty in bookshelf (JC. Sanz)
        + Time to review book template, branding for 24's
        + "Plain English" debate (Rob Thornton)
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         269(269) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created      8(4)    29(-7)     76(-2)     308(0)
          commented     15(4)    84(-9)    247(2)     1100(4)
           resolved      1(-2)   12(-5)     31(-3)     172(-1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 28 changes in 1 month, and 462 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 18 changes in 1 month, and 325 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 16 changes in 1 month, and 163 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 11 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 8 changes in 1 month, and 118 changes in 1 year
           Wolfgang Jäger made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 6 changes in 1 month, and 303 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 5 changes in 1 month, and 113 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 5 changes in 1 month, and 76 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 4 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year


* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         265(265) (topicUI) bugs open, 59(59) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month    3 months   12 months
              added      8(8)     10(-4)     22(-1)      53(-1)
          commented     66(22)   172(-10)   460(-50)   2421(7)
            removed      0(-1)     1(0)       3(-2)      27(0)
           resolved      6(-3)    26(-4)     78(1)      330(1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 78 changes in 1 month, and 1440 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 57 changes in 1 month, and 345 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 42 changes in 1 month, and 450 changes in 1 year
           خالد حسني made 23 changes in 1 month, and 37 changes in 1 year
           Henschel, Regina made 19 changes in 1 month, and 52 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 14 changes in 1 month, and 135 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 12 changes in 1 month, and 97 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 9 changes in 1 month, and 159 changes in 1 year
           Leroy made 9 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 9 changes in 1 month, and 213 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 157035] Enable Styles import from a master document
     + [Bug 149625] FORMATTING: Pasting a table cell, pastes the source cell in the
            upper/actual cell as an inner table cell
     + [Bug 156885] add toggle to show / hide authorship metadata in popup Calc comments
     + [Bug 156454] Indication of which table rows are considered heading rows is
            "hidden away" from the user
  -> + [Bug 157006] UX review needed for Options - Writer - Compatibility dialog
       + input welcome
  -> + [Bug 156925] Add a Color Scheme switcher to the Basic IDE
       + proposal at https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/155928
     + [Bug 156549] New CAD features for cable design
     + [Bug 156939] "Fit height to text" is misleading, only regards growing rather
            than shrinking
     + [Bug 156942] "Fit width to text" shouldn't default to "extend width to fit whole
            paragraph on a single line"
     + [Bug 156964] Support idiom of title bar moving up or down according to
            main box contents
     + [Bug 156507] Ability to remove non-printing/"atypical" characters in a stretch
            of text


* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 14(+0) import failure, 0(+0) export failures
       - just 1 calc parallel issue remaining
       - everything else is writer now, 1 odt, 11 docx
     + 3 coverity issues
       - fixes submitted
     + 1 ossfuzz issues
       - a timeout. Such low failures is a bit suspicious IMO.

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + Missing Xisco
     + 7.5.4.2    14047(+887)
     + 7.5.5.2    7781(+1560)
     + 7.6.0.2    97(+3)
     + 7.6.0.3    1561(+1340)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
   + Missing Hossein
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      69(-5)     119(-18)    184(-7)      224(-7)
                reviews     518(276)   1404(124)   3310(186)   11422(278)
                 merged     270(79)    1070(58)    3340(40)    12827(99)
              abandoned      17(9)       58(7)      143(9)       644(9)
            own commits     146(7)      669(2)     2100(-13)   10058(-46)
         review commits      80(50)     207(29)     644(31)     3087(43)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      20(-14)     48(-14)     75(-11)      96(-10)
                reviews     750(144)   2844(80)    7738(96)    31560(18)
                 merged      47(41)      71(27)     210(35)     2389(-45)
              abandoned       3(1)      163(3)      181(2)       616(1)
            own commits      38(30)      75(22)     222(26)     1092(24)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 328(328)
        total 404(404)   assigned 18(18)   open 358(358)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Dipam Turkar made 26 patches in 1 month, and 48 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 5 patches in 1 month, and 78 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 4 patches in 1 month, and 29 patches in 1 year
           Ahmed Eltokhy made 3 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
           NOGATA, Jun made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Colomban Wendling made 2 patches in 1 month, and 21 patches in 1 year
           Quentin PAGÈS made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Sahil Gautam made 2 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           jucasaca made 2 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Matt K made 1 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Caolán McNamara made 158 review comments in 1 month, and 416 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 140 review comments in 1 month, and 882 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 136 review comments in 1 month, and 1144 in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 986 in 1 year
           Vajngerl, Tomaž made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 424 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 394 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 442 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 620 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 62 review comments in 1 month, and 752 in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 42 review comments in 1 month, and 322 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         WIP out-of-tree android build ( Thorsten Behrens )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/105470
         Don't clobber SRCDIR with APK result ( Thorsten Behrens )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/105471
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Tobias Kokolakis

* GSoC (Ilmari/Thorsten)
   + this week: Mentors submit final contributor evaluations (standard coding period)
   + deadline is next Monday

* Outreachy (Ilmari)
   + https://www.outreachy.org/ -- Applied with two intern slots
   + Mentor sign up deadline September 29: looking for mentors
     + https://www.outreachy.org/communities/cfp/libreoffice/
   + Project timeline is Dec -> March
   + last year it sounded like the mentoring was not ideal (Miklos)
     + any hope to improve on that this year?
     + tried to rescue the project last year (Thorsten)
   + hope to have e.g. Jim as mentor (Heiko)

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 20 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 129 ok: 123 ko:   4 fail ratio: 3.10% mean_ok:   7 ( 10) median_ok:   5 (  6)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 129 ok: 125 ko:   3 fail ratio: 2.33% mean_ok:   9 ( 11) median_ok:   5 (  7)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 129 ok: 123 ko:   5 fail ratio: 3.88% mean_ok:   7 (  9) median_ok:   5 (  7)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 129 ok: 125 ko:   1 fail ratio: 0.78% mean_ok:   8 ( 10) median_ok:   5 (  7)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 408 ok: 242 ko: 147 fail ratio: 36.03% mean_ok:  33 ( 36) median_ok:  27 ( 33)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 258 ok: 246 ko:   7 fail ratio: 2.71% mean_ok:  14 ( 16) median_ok:  12 ( 13)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 273 ok: 215 ko:  48 fail ratio: 17.58% mean_ok:  44 ( 44) median_ok:  41 ( 41)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 276 ok: 227 ko:  40 fail ratio: 14.49% mean_ok:  55 ( 66) median_ok:  46 ( 47)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 424 ok: 182 ko: 216 fail ratio: 50.94% mean_ok:  88 ( 88) median_ok:  83 ( 84)
gerrit_master              jobs:  54 ok:  28 ko:  22 fail ratio: 40.74% mean_ok:  54 ( 54) median_ok:  47 ( 47)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 374 ok: 157 ko: 195 fail ratio: 52.14% mean_ok:  92 ( 93) median_ok:  87 ( 87)
    + https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_230831.html
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_framework_dispatch                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge2                gerrit_windows
       4 CppunitTest_oox_export                gerrit_windows
       4 CppunitTest_sd_uiimpress                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 CppunitTest_starmath_qa_cppunit                gerrit_windows
       4 CppunitTest_vcl_gtk3_a11y                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 JunitTest_chart2_unoapi                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 PythonTest_sw_python                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 CppunitTest_vcl_gtk3_a11y                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 CppunitTest_chart2_import                gerrit_mac
       8 CppunitTest_sc_dataprovider                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       8 UITest_calc_tests8                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       8 UITest_sw_fieldDialog                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      10 CppunitTest_sc_statistical_functions_test                gerrit_windows
      28 UITest_sw_navigator                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      35 UITest_inputLine                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      36 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_mac
      63 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
    + had a high number of failures this week (Cloph)
    + flip side: ML has obvious improvements on average build time
    + ML job currently uses clang/dbgutil
      + replace the "canary" build with gcc/release? (Miklos)
      + feedback on ML? (Thorsten)
        + to the setup in general?
        + to the current config of the setup?
      + clang failures are now more visible because that's the canary one (Cloph)
      + use jenkins:all (as gerrit topic) to force the old 6 builds in parallel behaviour
      + most of my failures are unrelated to to the changes I do (Khaled)
        + a stuck UITest is not very helpful to see if other platforms fail or not
        + having a more stable canary build would have more chance to be useful
      AI: try to switch from clang to gcc as an experiment (Cloph)

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
     + C++20 (Stephan)
     + multi-page floating tables in Writer, see tdf#155118 for details (Miklos)
     + JDK bump to 17 (Michael W)
         + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/155377
         + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/155827
         + waiting for JDK 17 to be installed on builders (for Cloph)
           + the Linux builders should have it installed by now
     + Right-to-left math layout and other Math improvements (Khaled)
         + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/topic:math-rtl-layout (7 patches)
         + Considering graduating visual/inline editing mode out of experimental features, any objection?
           + helps RTL, mixing commands + RTL symbols would be messy
           + plan to submit a change to make it non-experimental
     + a11y (Michael W)
         + fixed announcement of misc popup menus and UNO grid control by NVDA
         + fixed various a11y-related crashes
         + looking into issues with reporting object under mouse pointer

* LibreOffice conference Bucharest 2023 (Gabriel)
         + For those planning to join the conference, please REGISTER as we need this information for organizational reasons: https://conference.libreoffice.org/2023/registration-form/
         + Stopped the registration for the workshop, almost 70 registrans, looks nice.
           + To avoid logistical issues.
         + got extra rooms from the university, overall that's a good result
         + not yet clear if Khaled will visit the conf or not

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1226 (+46)
         + enhancements: 283  (+8)
         + needsUXEval: 11 (+4)
         + haveBackTrace: 15 (+1)
         + needsDevAdvice: 36 (+1)
         + documentation:  4 (+0)
         + android:  3 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  12 (+0)



     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
      Old:
      Fixed:


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + FIREBIRD: Copying a table from one database file to another gives wrong decimal numbers.
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156530
             + needs bibisecting
             + will take a look Stephane

* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +129  -38 (-135) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       29
        Buovjaga                7
        Justin L                7
        Heiko Tietze            6
        m.a.riosv               6
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 5
        Jim Raykowski           5
        Julien Nabet            5
        Michael Stahl (allotropia) 5
        Mike Kaganski           5

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Eyal Rozenberg          11
        Gerald Pfeifer          5
        Telesto                 5
        Rafael Lima             4
        medmedin2014            4
        Hahaha                  3
        Regina Henschel         3
        Timur                   3
        Hossein                 2
        Olivier Hallot          2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Jim Raykowski           4
        Justin Luth             4
        Michael Stahl           4
        Patrick Luby            4
        Grandin, Noel           3
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Kaganski, Mike          2
        Samuel Mehrbrodt        2
        Ahmed Eltokhy           1
        Andreas Heinisch        1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        m.a.riosv               9
        *UNKNOWN*               4
        Heiko Tietze            4
        Stéphane Guillou        4
        Kelemen, Gabor          3
        Patrick Luby            2
        ady                     2
        Alora Eve               1
        Faisal                  1
        Henschel, Regina        1


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   3
         Kelemen, Gabor         2
         Timur                  2


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   3
         Kelemen, Gabor         2
         Timur                  2


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1174(-9) bugs open of 12739(+3) total 11(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Gerald Pfeifer         1
         steve                  1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 7(+0)
      Calc          - 3(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 7(+0)
      Linux         - 2(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 404(-9)
      Calc                     - 216(+0)
      Impress                  - 133(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 50(+0)
      Draw                     - 44(+0)
      Crashes                  - 43(+1)
      Base                     - 42(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 41(+1)
      Borders                  - 34(+0)
      UI                       - 32(-1)
      Writer: other filter     - 31(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 31(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 23(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      Chart                    - 22(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      filters and storage      - 16(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 15(+1)
      graphics stack           - 12(-2)
      Formula Editor           - 4(+0)
      framework                - 4(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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