[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-07-20

Stephan Bergmann sbergman at redhat.com
Thu Jul 20 14:39:24 UTC 2023


* Present:
     + Heiko, Michael W., Regina, Stephan, Olivier, Cloph, Hossein, 
Thorsten, Gabriel,
       Eike, Stephane, Michael S

* Completed Action Items:
   + Create the https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/24.2 
page (Ilmari)
   + Create the 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2024 page (Ilmari)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6 status: rc2 in 1 week
       + 1 review on libreoffice-7-6 is needed
       + late feature request (Thorsten):
         Impress text edit improvement: 
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/154640
         Drag threshold improvement: 
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/154379
           + Both effect how to interact with text quickly in Impress
             + don't introduce new strings
             + do change configuration
         + no concerns from Heiko about the first patch at least
             + but really necessary in 7.6? not well tested
             + fair statement (Thorsten)
               + but gets us closer on par with Powerpoint
               + available to fix things on short notice
         + strictly UI-related (Cloph)
         + lets push to 7.6 and see if there'll be an issue with RC2 (Heiko)
             + will do that (Thorsten)

         + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/154642 (Thorsten)

         + involves a single string change
             + should be OK to make an exception (Cloph)
               + please ping Olivier,Sophi about it

            + will do that (Thorsten)

     + 7.5 status: 7.5.5 released today
        + approved in Mac app store, soon in MS store (already approved)
     + status of bumping Linux baseline to AlmaLinux 8 on master
        + successful Clang build
        + some GCC issues
        + bump directly to AlmaLinux 9?
           + GTK 4 as part of the distro then, => --enable-gtk4
             + otherwise needs to see how to enable that locally for
               AlmaLinux 8
           + Kernel 5.4 instead of 4.x, so would affect more users
        + better stick to 8 for now (Thorsten)
        + latest DevTools is 12, use that or any earlier one
           + any reason not to pick the latest one? (Stephan)
              + not really (Cloph)
        + requirements for Qt6? (Heiko)
           + not in 8, not sure if it's in 9 (Cloph)
           + would be nice to have --enable-kf6 enabled by default (Heiko)
           + depends on how much work it is to make it compile on 
AlmaLinux 8 or 9
     + tl;dr: continue work to make AlmaLinux 8 the new baseline

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents2
        + updates and review of UNO command in menus help pages (ohallot)
        + Fixes and updates (R. Lima, S. Chaiklin, stragu)
        + new pages/updates for ScriptForge (R. Lima)
        + Update on Frame help pages (vmiklos)
     + Guides
        + published Getting Started Guides 7.5 (ohallot)

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         275(275) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     11(5)    31(-1)     74(-2)    298(3)
          commented     16(8)    53(-15)   171(-11)   997(-6)
           resolved      1(0)     3(-3)     26(-1)    161(1)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Stéphane Guillou made 57 changes in 1 month, and 280 changes 
in 1 year
           Seth Chaiklin made 14 changes in 1 month, and 307 changes in 
1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 13 changes in 1 month, and 472 changes in 
1 year
           Rafael Lima made 9 changes in 1 month, and 114 changes in 1 year
           Monastirsky, Maxim made 8 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes 
in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 7 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 
year
           Nabet, Julien made 6 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 1 
year
           William Friedman made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 
1 year
           Leroy made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
           Alex Thurgood made 3 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         268(268) (topicUI) bugs open, 64(64) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months    12 months
              added      9(0)      17(-4)     31(-2)       60(-3)
          commented     78(-11)   197(-47)   698(-130)   2433(-44)
            removed      1(1)       3(2)      10(2)        30(2)
           resolved      8(-2)     24(-5)    104(-3)      321(4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 111 changes in 1 month, and 1490 changes in 
1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 54 changes in 1 month, and 411 changes 
in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 42 changes in 1 month, and 415 
changes in 1 year
           ady made 40 changes in 1 month, and 84 changes in 1 year
           Justin Luth made 26 changes in 1 month, and 93 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 21 changes in 1 month, and 225 
changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 20 changes in 1 month, and 274 changes in 
1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 13 changes in 1 month, and 133 changes in 
1 year
           Myndex made 12 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 8 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 
1 year
     + [Bug 156337] PDF export security tab is disabled and does not 
tell what is wrong
     + [Bug 145646] While selecting from the dropdown of data validation 
using keyboard,
            different one gets entered on pressing return
     + [Bug 155414] macOS's "Accessibility > Display > Reduce Motion" 
setting doesn't
            stop "Marching Ants"
     + [Bug 156369] Tripple-Clicking causes jumping to the end of paragraph.
     + [Bug 156374] Make Hanging Indent command create a hanging indent, 
when used on
            a paragraph without one
     + [Bug 156357] Cannot copy formula by copying cell when displaying with
            Show Formula
     + [Bug 113687] Wrong cell attributes assumed
     + [Bug 156345] desired new function: select range (of pages) in a 
document
     + [Bug 156311] Cycle directly from the last to first sheet in a 
calc file
     + [Bug 156305] Allow to invert selection in Autofilter
     + [Bug 156299] Icon inconsistencies: menu Insert shape and Sidebar 
Shapes deck

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 26(+0) import failure, 0(+0) export failures
     + ??? coverity issues
     + Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 7.5.1.2    24389(+572)
     + 7.5.2.2    17612(+561)
     + 7.5.3.2    16012(+1028)
     + 7.5.4.2    7349(+1685)

* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ New EasyHack suggested by Stéphane
  + tdf#145081 - Line spacing style type "Fixed" is exposed on the 
property side bar but not on the style sheet dialog
   https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145081
  + Choose which adjacent column of a "double clicked" formula dictates 
the extent of the fill
    https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149356
+ Reviewed and merged a fix for a blogged EasyHack
  + ODF standard and the code – EasyHack on LibreOffice Dev Blog
 
https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2022/08/16/odf-standard-and-the-code-easyhack/
    tdf#150302 - Toggle SameLetterHeights does not work if property not 
initialized
    https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=150302
+ ~10 blogged EasyHacks
  + Most of them are done
           committer...   1 week     1 month      3 months    12 months
                   open      90(24)     141(28)      204(27)      216(25)
                reviews     360(22)    1130(-10)    3106(80)    10938(114)
                 merged     228(-41)   1213(-106)   3362(-22)   12609(67)
              abandoned       9(3)       39(-5)      139(-9)      630(-5)
            own commits     156(7)      708(-35)    2267(-63)   10316(33)
         review commits      50(5)      216(-4)      723(0)      3051(21)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months     12 months
                   open      31(-4)      48(-3)      229(-5)       238(-4)
                reviews     688(-68)   2876(-194)   8092(-146)   32062(76)
                 merged      25(-5)      81(12)      325(-27)     2736(-6)
              abandoned       1(-5)      14(0)        44(-12)      482(-19)
            own commits      21(2)       73(5)       237(5)       1035(14)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)          0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 331(331)
        total 403(403)   assigned 32(32)   open 344(344)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Dipam Turkar made 17 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 
year
           Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 6 patches in 1 month, and 21 
patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 4 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 
1 year
           Luigi Iucci made 4 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 4 patches in 1 month, and 73 
patches in 1 year
           Matt K made 3 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Ahmed Eltokhy made 3 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Juan C. Sanz made 2 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Baole Fang made 2 patches in 1 month, and 24 patches in 1 year
           Venetia Furtado made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 
year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Caolán McNamara made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 210 
in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 956 in 
1 year
           Michael Stahl made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 1084 in 
1 year
           Vajngerl, Tomaž made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 472 
in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 356 in 
1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 780 in 1 
year
           Christian Lohmaier made 48 review comments in 1 month, and 
396 in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 40 review comments in 1 month, and 176 
in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 38 review comments in 1 month, and 582 in 
1 year
           Timar, Andras made 36 review comments in 1 month, and 414 in 
1 year

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + Phase 1 evaluations: July 10 - July 14 18:00 UTC
     + all looking good (Hossein, Thorsten)

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/Thorsten/László)
   + resting since: 14 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 222 ok: 191 ko:  15 fail ratio: 6.76% 
mean_ok:  12 ( 34) median_ok:   8 ( 27)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 221 ok: 184 ko:  14 fail ratio: 6.33% 
mean_ok:  12 ( 33) median_ok:   9 ( 26)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 225 ok: 186 ko:  20 fail ratio: 8.89% 
mean_ok:  12 ( 33) median_ok:   8 ( 24)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 223 ok: 188 ko:  12 fail ratio: 5.38% 
mean_ok:  12 ( 33) median_ok:   8 ( 23)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 443 ok: 309 ko:  83 fail ratio: 18.74% 
mean_ok:  52 ( 64) median_ok:  47 ( 60)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 435 ok: 360 ko:  48 fail ratio: 11.03% 
mean_ok:  30 ( 35) median_ok:  24 ( 28)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 482 ok: 308 ko: 135 fail ratio: 28.01% 
mean_ok:  48 ( 50) median_ok:  42 ( 43)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 471 ok: 278 ko: 141 fail ratio: 29.94% 
mean_ok:  68 (104) median_ok:  63 ( 78)
gerrit_master              jobs: 540 ok: 221 ko: 247 fail ratio: 45.74% 
mean_ok:  99 (100) median_ok:  82 ( 85)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_framework_dispatch                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_svgio                gerrit_windows
       3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge                gerrit_windows
       4 UITest_writer_macro_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       7 UITest_calc_tests8                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      10 Killed by the kill-wrapper 
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
      18 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_mac
      28 CppunitTest_starmath_qa_cppunit                gerrit_windows 
(single bot)
      + bit rough week, bot issues (git checkout failures due to killed 
in unclean
        state)
        + an issue that only happens rarely
      + all CppunitTest_starmath_qa_cppunit on Windows were on a single bot

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + document themes (Tomaz)
   + tdf#155118 multi-page floating tables in Writer (Miklos)
   + WSL build (Cloph)
     + still hacky, but promising
     + not building within wsl, but rather from git-bash
       calling into wsl only when necessary
     + using strawberry perl (openssl wants perl that is using 
windows-paths, easier to
       install windows-perl than to hack that into the external 
build-system)
     + make instructions available? (Hossein)
       + will come later (Cloph)
     + how fast is it? (Hossein)
       + no usable numbers yet (Cloph)

* LibreOffice conference Bucharest 2023 (Gabriel)
     + CfP over, lots of proposals
     + don't forget to register!
     + workshop promotion
        + participants will get certificates
        + thanks to Olivier for a template

* QA update (Xisco)

     + UNCONFIRMED: 1188 (+18)
         + enhancements: 273  (+2)
         + needsUXEval: 7 (-9)
         + haveBackTrace: 11 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 34 (+0)
         + documentation:  4 (-1)
         + android:  3 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  12 (+0)

     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
      Old:
      Fixed:

     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + CRASH: inserting row and undoing
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156268
             + Hossein already submitted a patch

* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +123  -41 (-115) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 20
        Justin L                19
        QA Administrators       11
        Heiko Tietze            7
        Xisco Faulí             5
        Michael Stahl (allotropia) 4
        Michael Weghorn         4
        Mike Kaganski           4
        m.a.riosv               4
        Eike Rathke             2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Xisco Faulí             6
        Rafael Lima             5
        Regina Henschel         5
        sdc.blanco              4
        vicxp0518               4
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 3
        Mike Kaganski           3
        steve                   3
        Hossein                 2
        M-Rick                  2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Justin Luth             10
                                4
^ could the empty one above be Khaled with arabic spelling? (Hossein)
+ lets find out what's odd there (Stephane)
        Kaganski, Mike          4
        Xisco Fauli             4
        Michael Stahl           3
        Andreas Heinisch        2
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Németh, László          2
        Rafael Lima             2
        Stéphane Guillou        2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Stéphane Guillou        22
        Heiko Tietze            9
        Justin Luth             6
        Xisco Fauli             6
        m.a.riosv               5
        *UNKNOWN*               4
        ady                     4
        Roman Kuznetsov         3
        Dieter                  2
        Kaganski, Mike          2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       4
         Xisco Fauli            4
         adamseskunas           3
         Aron Budea             1
         Raal                   1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       5
         Xisco Fauli            4
         adamseskunas           2
         Aron Budea             2
         Raal                   1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1196(+3) bugs open of 12664(+19) total 11(-2) high prio.

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       6
         Xisco Fauli            3
         adamseskunas           1
         ady                    1
         Aron Budea             1
         خالد حسني              1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Robert Großkopf        1
         Sophie Sipasseuth      1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 6(-2)
      Calc          - 3(+0)
      Draw          - 1(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 8(-1)
      Linux         - 1(-1)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 420(+0)
      Calc                     - 219(+3)
      Impress                  - 133(+1)
      LibreOffice              - 49(+0)
      Crashes                  - 46(+0)
      Draw                     - 45(-1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 43(-1)
      Base                     - 42(+0)
      UI                       - 36(+1)
      Borders                  - 33(+1)
      Writer: perf             - 33(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
      Chart                    - 25(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 23(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      filters and storage      - 18(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 13(+0)
      graphics stack           - 12(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      framework                - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)



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