ESC meeting minutes: 2024-04-18
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Apr 18 14:55:19 UTC 2024
* Present:
+ Olivier, Ilmari, Regina, Michael S, Michael W, Jonathan, Hossein, Stephan, Miklos, Xisco, Eike, Heiko, Cloph, Caolan
* Completed Action Items:
* Pending Action Items:
+ Update api.libreoffice.org from 7.4 (Cloph)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.6: 7.6.7 RC1 this week, probably later today
+ 24.2: 24.2.3 RC2 next week
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ Fix on CSS (Juan José)
+ Helpcontents2
+ New pages for paragraph signature (wip) (Colton Garrett)
+ may be useful to CC Ashod on the change (Miklos)
+ several signature parts: PDF, macros, gpg or not, etc (Olivier)
+ Updates and fixes (ohallot)
+ Guides
+ Work in progress
+ About translations.
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
265(265) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 8(1) 30(-22) 89(0) 218(-6)
commented 3(-16) 57(-39) 235(-3) 836(-12)
resolved 6(4) 16(-6) 43(5) 116(2)
+ top 10 contributors:
Olivier Hallot made 44 changes in 1 month, and 263 changes in 1 year
Dione Maddern made 17 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 15 changes in 1 month, and 69 changes in 1 year
MeBugzilla made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
Weghorn, Michael made 7 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 7 changes in 1 month, and 53 changes in 1 year
Cor Nouws made 3 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 3 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
nobu made 3 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
Pierre F made 2 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
243(243) (topicUI) bugs open, 45(45) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 4(-4) 19(1) 23(2) 31(2)
commented 71(41) 231(23) 564(59) 1949(-32)
removed 1(1) 2(1) 2(1) 12(0)
resolved 8(2) 28(2) 85(3) 320(4)
+ top 10 contributors:
Stéphane Guillou made 96 changes in 1 month, and 683 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 91 changes in 1 month, and 1124 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 68 changes in 1 month, and 274 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 27 changes in 1 month, and 156 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 26 changes in 1 month, and 162 changes in 1 year
Ady made 20 changes in 1 month, and 141 changes in 1 year
Justin Luth made 18 changes in 1 month, and 140 changes in 1 year
Devansh Varshney made 13 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 1 year
Cor Nouws made 10 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 1 year
m.a.riosv made 10 changes in 1 month, and 59 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 160686] "Left Page" and "Right Page" are nonsensical and should be removed
+ [Bug 160684] The Landscape style is nonsensical while we have neither
hierarchical nor composable page styles
+ [Bug 160682] HTML "page style" is not a page style - move this functionality
elsewhere
-> + [Bug 154434] FILEOPEN HTML: Writer loses HTML layout
+ wonder to what extent we want to support for format (Heiko)
+ but these days many apps have internal HTML renderers (Hossein)
+ curently closed as wontfix (Heiko)
+ not sure where to draw the line
+ also CSS, do we event handle CSS layout at all? (Ilmari)
+ at layout: things start to fall apart
+ also unclear where to draw the line
+ using a writer2html extension (Olivier)
+ when developing a product, you need to consider your audience / market section (Hossein)
+ compare us vs other word processors
+ best to comare us to other word processors, not browsers
+ [Bug 160658] Shortcut key menu's elements are odd and empty
+ [Bug 139112] Accessibility options dialog should adapt its width to long labels
+ [Bug 160629] Bullets and Numbering dialog in Writer does not say it's about an
implicit list style
+ [Bug 160608] "Re-type Password" dialog needs UX improvement
+ [Bug 49259] Writer is too jumpy when selecting an object if another object
was selected
+ [Bug 99608] Using clone formatting enables scrolling with the mouse -- but
it shouldn't
+ Poll "What kind of User Interface are you using?"
+ https://fosstodon.org/@libodesign/112285659953746809
+ agree with Heiko, it makes sense to invest more into the tabbed interface (Hossein)
+ agree (Olivier)
+ would like to define some notebookbar gsoc project for next year (Hossein)
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 24(+4) import failure, 19(+17) export failures
- lots of actual errors, enough to run out of space with core dumps
- some pivot table related, one fixed, another in gerrit
- some fround32->fround64 related, MikeK has a fix in gerrit
+ 16 coverity issues
- not sure what the warnings are trying to tell me, virtual base related?
97 BasicMethodNodeImpl::~BasicMethodNodeImpl()
98 {
1. destroy: ~WeakImplHelper destroys this->m_aMutex.["show details"]
CID 1596129: (#1 of 1): Uninitialized lock use (LOCK)
2. uninitialized_use: ~OPropertyContainer2 uses this->m_aMutex in an uninitialized state.["show details"]
99 }
+ 3 ossfuzz issues
- one crash (auto testing if fixed in progress)
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ 7.6.5.2 8103(+920)
+ 7.6.6.3 1054(+587)
+ 24.2.0.3 15407(+717)
+ 24.2.1.2 10893(+1203)
+ 24.2.2.2 3121(+1458)
+ New in 24.2
- https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/ScOutputData::DrawRefMark(short,long,short,long,Color%20const%20&,bool)
- https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/WhichRangesContainer::getOffsetFromWhich(unsigned%20short)
- cell aligment ?
- what stops pLastPattern of ScInputHandler from being a dangling pointer if its removed from the document (if that is how it works)
- https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=67990 was a crash with pLastPattern with a few steps to reproduce that old issue
* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ Multiple calls for Windows-build issues
+ Finalized and published a blog post on dev blog
Crash fixes part 3 – Testing crashes
https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2024/04/18/crash-fixes-part-3-testing-crashes/
+ ongoing discussion wrt updating the .NET UNO binding (Hossein)
+ if interested, talk to Hossein for details
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 46(-31) 120(-22) 143(-16) 143(-16)
reviews 318(14) 1376(-164) 3862(-112) 12518(8)
merged 213(19) 981(-34) 3277(-84) 12494(-1)
abandoned 9(-7) 49(-2) 167(-3) 665(-1)
own commits 129(-11) 641(-41) 2144(-67) 9192(-84)
review commits 43(-14) 259(-55) 872(-55) 3055(-10)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 36(4) 99(0) 105(4) 105(4)
reviews 582(-106) 2612(-172) 7690(-256) 29570(-202)
merged 17(-4) 137(-18) 356(-7) 1724(-73)
abandoned 11(-6) 45(8) 290(0) 690(1)
own commits 16(-15) 153(-28) 446(-17) 1117(-3)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 332(332)
total 415(415) assigned 28(28) open 353(353)
+ top 10 contributors:
LeSasse made 19 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 16 patches in 1 month, and 90 patches in 1 year
Ritobroto Mukherjee made 13 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
Dione Maddern made 10 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
Rafał Dobrakowski made 8 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
Bogdan B made 5 patches in 1 month, and 20 patches in 1 year
Aaron Bourdeaux made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Juan José González made 4 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
Xuan Chen made 3 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Caolán McNamara made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 1382 in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 492 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 708 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 1102 in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 508 in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 348 in 1 year
Thorsten Behrens made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 656 in 1 year
Hossein made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 326 in 1 year
Christian Lohmaier made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 376 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 936 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Zainab Abbasi
Ashwani Kumar
colton Garrett
Hakim Ottey
Omkar Nikam
* GSoC (Ilmari)
+ https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2024/organizations/libreoffice
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/2024
+ April 24: project rankings due
+ Patch review help appreciated: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/gerrit/CommonQueries
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
+ resting since: 1 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 151 ok: 148 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.32% mean_ok: 8 ( 9) median_ok: 6 ( 7)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 151 ok: 147 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.32% mean_ok: 9 ( 9) median_ok: 6 ( 7)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 151 ok: 149 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.32% mean_ok: 7 ( 9) median_ok: 6 ( 7)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 150 ok: 147 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.33% mean_ok: 8 ( 9) median_ok: 6 ( 6)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 302 ok: 242 ko: 53 fail ratio: 17.55% mean_ok: 34 ( 35) median_ok: 29 ( 30)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 354 ok: 292 ko: 51 fail ratio: 14.41% mean_ok: 16 ( 17) median_ok: 14 ( 14)
gerrit_mac jobs: 303 ok: 253 ko: 35 fail ratio: 11.55% mean_ok: 51 ( 51) median_ok: 49 ( 49)
gerrit_windows jobs: 352 ok: 173 ko: 144 fail ratio: 40.91% mean_ok: 54 (133) median_ok: 55 (107)
gerrit_master_ml jobs: 400 ok: 150 ko: 206 fail ratio: 51.50% mean_ok: 144 (145) median_ok: 123 (125)
gerrit_master jobs: 48 ok: 20 ko: 21 fail ratio: 43.75% mean_ok: 97 ( 97) median_ok: 56 ( 56)
gerrit_master_seq jobs: 350 ok: 130 ko: 183 fail ratio: 52.29% mean_ok: 150 (150) median_ok: 131 (131)
+ https://dev-www.libreoffice.org/tmp/gerrit_240418.html
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport17 gerrit_mac
4 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
4 CppunitTest_svgio gerrit_linux_gcc_release
4 JunitTest_chart2_unoapi gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
108 aborted by jenkins job timeout gerrit_windows
+ Jenkins is suffering from the Windows builds getting stuck (Cloph)
+ seems it's not tied to specific bots
+ only a matter of time when a build hangs, then all subsequent builds fail
+ also saw it on libreoffice-24-2 branch (Xisco)
+ if you see a bot failing like this, take it offline and ping #tdf-infra (Cloph)
+ if this happens, please announce that more widely (Stephan)
+ maybe on the mailing list
+ Noel has a WIP change to try to have a Windows version of the kill wrapper
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/lode/+/129675
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ A11y update (Michael W)
+ announcement of text formatting toggling with NVDA (tdf#160695/nvda#4248)
+ Navigator a11y improvements (tdf#159910)
+ gtk3: comobobox a11y
+ RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
+ (Bug 49885): Propose moving to ICU for CJ word BreakIterator
+ trying to upstream the Chinese/Japanese customizations
+ have a memory that people consider word counting as very important (Caolan)
+ aware of the problem (Jonathan)
+ Regression hotspots script updates (Ilmari)
+ https://git.libreoffice.org/dev-tools/+/refs/heads/master/scripts/regression-hotspots.py
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/RegressionHotspots
+ Runtime down from 10 hours to 30 seconds
+ How to make it even more useful for QA stats?
+ Handling renamed files and dirs?
+ Presenting change over time?
+ build with wsl-as-helper but from within git-bash (Cloph)
+ cleaning it up/getting it ready for submission
+ still not all working via plain configure, some hardcoded paths
+ git-bash can be installed from visual studio
+ long-term goal would be to replace cygwin with wsl+git-bash
+ still needs a manually installed perl, which is a bit ugly
+ just got some Windows arm64 HW, cygwin is really ugly there (Thorsten)
+ interested to try this there, on Windows 11
+ all in for trying this out (Stephan)
+ mingw itself, is that an option? (Hossein)
+ not the compiler, the environment
+ configure to work without cygwin is a lot of work (Cloph)
+ idea is to build from git-bash, and call selected tools from wsl
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1168 (+5)
+ enhancements: 283 (+5)
+ needsUXEval: 17 (+5)
+ haveBackTrace: 10 (-1)
+ needsDevAdvice: 46 (+2)
+ documentation: 3 (+1)
+ android: 0 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 9 (+0)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
None
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ FILEOPEN XLSX Missing pivot tables
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160670
+ Fixed. Thanks to Tomaz
* QA stats (Stéphane)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+95 +14 (-108) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 21
m_a_riosv 10
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 9
Heiko Tietze 7
Olivier Hallot 5
Buovjaga 4
V Stuart Foote 4
Dieter 3
Eike Rathke 3
Jim Raykowski 3
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Telesto 9
Christoph Anton Mitterer 4
Eyal Rozenberg 3
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 3
Mike Kaganski 3
Gerald Pfeifer 2
J22Gim 2
Timur 2
steve 2
Olivier Hallot 1
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Olivier Hallot 5
Jim Raykowski 3
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
Balazs Varga 1
Balland-Poirier, Laurent 1
Don 1
Grandin, Noel 1
Heiko Tietze 1
Justin Luth 1
Kosiorek, Bartosz 1
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
*UNKNOWN* 12
Stéphane Guillou 7
Dieter 5
Heiko Tietze 5
Ilmari Lauhakangas 5
Robert Großkopf 5
m.a.riosv 4
Vernon, Stuart Foote 3
Henschel, Regina 2
Kaganski, Mike 2
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Xisco Fauli 2
Aron Budea 1
Kira Tubo 1
Kaganski, Mike 1
Stéphane Guillou 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Xisco Fauli 2
Aron Budea 1
Kira Tubo 1
Kaganski, Mike 1
Stéphane Guillou 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1236(+3) bugs open of 13302(+10) total 23(-1) high prio.
done by:
m.a.riosv 2
Dieter 1
Kaganski, Mike 1
Robert Großkopf 1
Telesto 1
Timur 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 16(-1)
Calc - 2(+0)
Impress - 2(+0)
LibreOffice - 1(+0)
UI - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 18(+0)
Linux - 3(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 2(-1)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 437(+0)
Calc - 225(+2)
Impress - 127(+0)
Draw - 53(+2)
LibreOffice - 53(+0)
Writer: docx filter - 45(+0)
Crashes - 42(+0)
Base - 40(+0)
UI - 37(+0)
Borders - 35(+0)
Writer: perf - 35(+0)
Writer: other filter - 30(+0)
Chart - 24(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 24(+0)
RTL - 23(+0)
filters and storage - 22(+0)
BASIC - 19(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 16(+0)
graphics stack - 12(+0)
Formula Editor - 7(+0)
framework - 3(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
sdk - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 1(+0)
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