Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2024-Dec-04

Heiko Tietze heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Wed Dec 4 20:30:30 UTC 2024


Present: Sahil, Cor, Eyal, Bogdan, John, Heiko
Comments: Ady, Stuart

Tickets/Topics

  * Allow the user to delete his own bibliography references
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162858
    + bibliography is a reference to the database like other fields
      and none can be deleted from the insert/edit dialog (Heiko, Cor)
    => WF

  * Allow formulas autocompletion / syntax hints tooltip in conditional
    formatting rules editor
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163623
    + not reasonable that an unknown complex formula is used (Heiko)
    + but we don't know and users might benefit from it (Cor)
    + rather keep things simple (Sahil)
    + assistance is desirable everywhere, not just the CF dialog;
      assistance not necessarily via tooltips (Eyal)
      + make help available in CF dialog (Cor)
    => comment

  * Allow setting more global printing defaults
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163385
    + unclear report (Cor)
    + OP complains about margins not applicable to printer (Eyal)
      + if margins are manually set to zero it should be applied (Heiko)
      + bug 103683 asks for more standardized margins, could be a dup
    + make Handout the default for printing? (Heiko)
    => resolve Invalid with the recommendation to create a new ticket

  * Inserting new comment in Calc disables the "show all comments"
    setting
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161972
    + some discussion on the ticket explaining the current workflow (Ady)
    + tri-state is probably too far-fetched and not suited for a menu (Heiko)
    + but we may introduce a setting under tools > options > calc >
      view: "[ ] New comments visible" which allows to create new
      comments expanded (Heiko)
    + use case is reasonable (Eyal)
    + show/hide is applied to the cell selection (Cor)
      and the menu state always correctly shows if all are visible or not.
    + make the menu item a true toggle and follow this setting for
      new comments (Sahil)
      + not advisable and breaking the workflow for many users (Ady)
        + don't understand why that should be the case (Cor)
          (but didn't take a lot of time to study..)
    + not much concerns about the workflow (Heiko)
    => comment
       seems it needs some more thinking for the ideal solution, not
       breaking Calc functionality, yet preventing confusing with
       newcomers

  * Make non-breaking hyphen visible again in normal use case
    (at least as an option)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164034
    + done by design, NAB (Stuart, Eyal)
    + nbhy/nbsp apparently does nothing - but actually it inserts something
      without the distinction from normal space or hyphen unless a
      line break (Heiko)
    + reasonable request because....
    + naming is wrong since hyphen are not spaces; better go with
      "Non-breaking spaces and hyphen" - too long, "...glyph" not
       translatable, "... " + tooltip - uncommon, "...character" unclear
      (Eyal, Cor)
    + go with the potentially too long version (Heiko)
    => resolve NAB

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