ESC meeting minutes: 2024-12-12
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Dec 12 15:39:22 UTC 2024
* Present:
+ Olivier, Caolan, Gabriel, Heiko, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael W, Michael S, Regina, Stephan, Thorsten, Cloph, Eike, Miklos
* Completed Action Items:
+ Upgrade the wiki template for the release pages to specify when the MAR update can be expected (Hossein)
+ Done: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan
Template updated to calculate +1 week, based on:
+ update checker: +1 week after announce (Cloph)
+ intention: same for the MAR updates
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2024-November/092704.html
* Pending Action Items:
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 24.8.4 rc2 this week
+ cross-update will be enabled (from 24.2.x; after 1 week delay)
+ pending patches: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/branch:libreoffice-24-8-4+status:open
+ plan to tag later today
+ 25.2 rc1 + UI freeze in 1 week
+ branch rules: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Branches
+ self-review is OK for now
+ late features:
+ Sahil is working on the application colors (Heiko)
+ expect it'll be a distruptive change -- probably defer to the next release
+ the extension side looks good, it's more about the VCL backends
+ Quick Look plugin for macOS (Patrick)
+ see https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2024-December/092765.html
* Documentation (Olivier)
* Helpcontents2
+ Updates and fixes for Help pages (ohallot, B. Buzea, Ilmari, Dione)
+ (rushing to add them on 25.2 branch).
+ Fixes in Help for Scriptforge (A. Romedenne)
* Guides
+ Work on Calc Guide (ohallot, D. Maddern)
+ Math Guide (P. Schofield)
* Latam conference:
+ it was interesting, good to see people from the local comunity
+ not ideal timing, but otherwise nice
+ lot of discussions
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
229(229) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 10(7) 20(5) 48(-1) 265(3)
commented 22(10) 56(21) 168(-14) 1010(7)
resolved 4(3) 7(2) 21(-1) 174(1)
+ top 10 contributors:
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 22 changes in 1 month, and 150 changes in 1 year
Bogdan B made 14 changes in 1 month, and 36 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 10 changes in 1 month, and 87 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 8 changes in 1 month, and 84 changes in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 8 changes in 1 month, and 348 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 5 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
Timur Gadzo made 3 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 3 changes in 1 month, and 167 changes in 1 year
Dione Maddern made 2 changes in 1 month, and 114 changes in 1 year
Pierre F made 2 changes in 1 month, and 225 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
227(227) (topicUI) bugs open, 21(21) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 3(1) 11(1) 15(-1) 21(-2)
commented 42(18) 117(5) 310(-18) 1519(-53)
removed 0(0) 1(-2) 5(-1) 12(-1)
resolved 6(4) 15(1) 47(1) 250(0)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 72 changes in 1 month, and 838 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 55 changes in 1 month, and 215 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 30 changes in 1 month, and 398 changes in 1 year
*UNKNOWN* made 20 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 1 year
Roman Kuznetsov made 15 changes in 1 month, and 27 changes in 1 year
Cor Nouws made 8 changes in 1 month, and 36 changes in 1 year
Bogdan B made 7 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year
*UNKNOWN* made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 6 changes in 1 month, and 172 changes in 1 year
lol made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 164142] Replace button wall with a context menu in new Macro manager
+ [Bug 164199] Control of inter-paragraph spacing for same-style paragraphs
- beyond suppression
+ [Bug 164183] Add hyperlink entries to context menu in tables
* Crash testing (Caolan)
+ 270(+15) import failure, 14(-12) export failures
- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
- small enough number that we don't run out of space with core dumps
- sample issue, likely low hanging calc ORG.OPENOFFICE.EASTERSUNDAY thing
- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164249
+ 14 coverity issues
+ 1 ossfuzz issue
- 1 int overflow in emf
+ coverity access, LO page is empty (Stephan)
+ idea was that it's open to anyone (Caolan)
+ will check the permissions & maybe try an explicit invite
* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
+ Missing Xisco
+ 24.8.0.3 30539(+1290)
+ 24.8.1.2 22371(+406)
+ 24.8.2.1 54335(+633)
+ 24.8.3.2 17456(+6394)
* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ Missing Hossein
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 79(-16) 151(3) 151(3) 151(3)
reviews 512(44) 1802(84) 3858(-2) 13668(210)
merged 417(82) 1455(77) 3908(109) 14325(195)
abandoned 13(1) 77(7) 157(2) 723(-25)
own commits 242(-3) 1026(-10) 2845(61) 10202(65)
review commits 59(2) 283(-28) 850(3) 3315(7)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 330(84) 523(33) 523(30) 523(30)
reviews 1122(124) 3874(218) 8984(288) 31918(330)
merged 37(-2) 174(0) 460(9) 1480(1)
abandoned 8(-1) 81(7) 103(4) 583(4)
own commits 30(-6) 147(-14) 414(12) 1405(9)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 9(9) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 341(341)
total 424(424) assigned 29(29) open 358(358)
+ top 10 contributors:
Bogdan B made 72 patches in 1 month, and 266 patches in 1 year
Srebotnjak, Martin made 4 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
Dione Maddern made 4 patches in 1 month, and 89 patches in 1 year
Simon Chenery made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Rahim Siddiq made 4 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Mohamed Ali made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Manish Bera made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Weblate made 2 patches in 1 month, and 40 patches in 1 year
Marco Pinto made 2 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
Kurt Nordback made 2 patches in 1 month, and 30 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Vajna, Miklos made 180 review comments in 1 month, and 1184 in 1 year
Thorsten Behrens made 132 review comments in 1 month, and 730 in 1 year
Caolán McNamara made 130 review comments in 1 month, and 1382 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 128 review comments in 1 month, and 900 in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 116 review comments in 1 month, and 872 in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 718 in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 460 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 726 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 828 in 1 year
Christian Lohmaier made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 618 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
tdf#90341 Clean up excessive const_cast'ing ( Beeram Pranith Reddy )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/170854
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Alin, Andrei Abahnencei
Calin Avramoniu
Johann Lorber (Linagora)
André Herbst
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
+ resting since: 7 week (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 170 ok: 165 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.18% mean_ok: 7 ( 15) median_ok: 6 ( 10)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 171 ok: 168 ko: 1 fail ratio: 0.58% mean_ok: 7 ( 15) median_ok: 6 ( 9)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 170 ok: 165 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.18% mean_ok: 7 ( 15) median_ok: 6 ( 9)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 171 ok: 168 ko: 1 fail ratio: 0.58% mean_ok: 7 ( 16) median_ok: 5 ( 10)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 362 ok: 295 ko: 56 fail ratio: 15.47% mean_ok: 37 ( 43) median_ok: 35 ( 37)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 407 ok: 326 ko: 52 fail ratio: 12.78% mean_ok: 21 ( 27) median_ok: 19 ( 20)
gerrit_mac jobs: 363 ok: 313 ko: 34 fail ratio: 9.37% mean_ok: 50 ( 51) median_ok: 44 ( 44)
gerrit_windows jobs: 348 ok: 326 ko: 15 fail ratio: 4.31% mean_ok: 34 ( 39) median_ok: 33 ( 33)
gerrit_master_ml jobs: 433 ok: 274 ko: 117 fail ratio: 27.02% mean_ok: 74 ( 74) median_ok: 65 ( 66)
gerrit_master jobs: 40 ok: 33 ko: 3 fail ratio: 7.50% mean_ok: 59 ( 59) median_ok: 55 ( 55)
gerrit_master_seq jobs: 397 ok: 244 ko: 115 fail ratio: 28.97% mean_ok: 76 ( 77) median_ok: 66 ( 66)
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 Killed by the kill-wrapper gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
3 CppunitTest_services gerrit_linux_gcc_release
3 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_1 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
3 UITest_impress_tests gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
4 aborted by jenkins job timeout gerrit_windows
27 CppunitTest_sw_tiledrendering2 gerrit_linux_gcc_release
+ normal week (Cloph)
+ CppunitTest_sw_tiledrendering2 is still high..
+ one slow macOS builder -> took it out
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ A11y update (Michael W)
+ tdf#164247 "Writer Accessibility check requires too high contrast for large text"
+ reducing dependency of vcl widget a11y classes on toolkit module
+ LO/JAWS issues
+ RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
+ tdf#164106: Fixed Devanagari rendering with sub-grapheme cluster formatting
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164106
+ tdf#66791: Incorrect application of Asian text font for quotation marks
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66791
+ In progress: planning on changing behavior to reflect MSO
+ tdf#159549 - FORMATTING LO Writer 7.6 and 24.2 alter settings of Text Body paragraph style when renaming style as Body Text (Michael S)
+ mostly done by now
+ except table template/styles: UIName is written into ODF
+ see commit 7d08664be4d9a949718ce66e3bc974105a10284c
+ so that part is difficult to change
+ Writer VML import: in-shape tables are now mapped to Writer TextBox (Olivier)
* FOSDEM 2025 (Xisco)
- DevRoom: Saturday, February 1, from 10AM to 2PM.
* Vertical tab pages (Michael W)
+ idea was to disable them again for 25.2
+ still on for master
+ intentional or just nobody did the work?
+ mixed situation (Heiko)
+ page style dialog is vertical, most others are horizontal
+ design-wise: makes sense to be consistent
+ but hyperlink dialog is already like this
+ tools -> options is also vertical (Olivier)
+ would be nice to have a decision (Michael W)
+ Design team suggestion was to go vertical (Thorsten)
+ so would be careful to undo all that
+ Not seeing any active work here, and it's a complicated topic (Heiko)
+ would require icons for all dialogs, updating their layouts
+ If it fits into the vision over years, then why not (Thorsten)
+ without a flip-flop before every release
+ would prefer to make a decision: no design meetings anymore this year, UI freeze is next week for 25.2 (Heiko)
+ not sure how many tab dialogs are vertical at the moment
+ would like to keep things as-is, if it looks a bit poor, it might get the attention of contributors
+ the most painful dialogs are reverted anyway
=> no objections to this plan (all)
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1431 (+22)
+ enhancements: 360 (+3)
+ needsUXEval: 6 (+1)
+ haveBackTrace: 11 (-1)
+ needsDevAdvice: 48 (+0)
+ documentation: 6 (+1)
+ android: 1 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 9 (+0)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
Old:
Fixed:
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ LibreOffice crashes when attempting to save the AutoRecovery info of an untitled COPY of a spreadsheet
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163033
+ After updates on Writer launch, language defaulting to Filipino
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164070
+ needs bisecting
+ Every time I try to delete an object in a gallery folder that I inserted, LibreOffice crashes in vcl/source/bitmap/bitmap.cxx:212
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164202
+ needs bisecting
+ LibreOffice suddenly changed its language to Tagalog on its own
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164264
+ needs bisecting
+ already marked as a duplicate of tdf#164070 (Caolan)
* Skipping ESC towards the year end (Miklos)
+ Suggest to skip 26th Dec & 2nd Jan
* QA stats
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+121 -28 (-105) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 18
Buovjaga 16
m_a_riosv 9
Heiko Tietze 6
Mike Kaganski 6
BogdanB 5
Balázs Varga (allotropia) 4
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
Andreas Heinisch 3
Eike Rathke 3
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Telesto 5
Eyal Rozenberg 3
Justin L 3
Aron Budea 2
Buovjaga 2
Dragan Marinović 2
Heiko Tietze 2
Hossein 2
Mike Kaganski 2
Oliver Specht (CIB) 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Andreas Heinisch 4
Balazs Varga 4
Heiko Tietze 4
Kelemen, Gabor 4
Bogdan B 3
Justin Luth 3
Kaganski, Mike 3
Grandin, Noel 2
Jim Raykowski 2
Jonathan Clark 2
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 16
Bogdan B 14
*UNKNOWN* 7
Raal 5
m.a.riosv 5
Aron Budea 4
Heiko Tietze 2
Rafael Lima 2
Rathke, Eike 2
Specht, Oliver 2
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 3
ericrodriguez1 2
Raal 2
nalsabah 1
Telesto 1
Xisco Fauli 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 5
ericrodriguez1 2
Raal 2
nalsabah 1
Telesto 1
Xisco Fauli 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1223(+5) bugs open of 13777(+17) total 22(+1) high prio.
done by:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 4
m.a.riosv 3
Vernon, Stuart Foote 2
Raal 1
Stéphane Guillou 1
Telesto 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 10(+0)
Calc - 6(+0)
LibreOffice - 3(+1)
Impress - 2(+0)
UI - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 14(+1)
Linux - 5(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 3(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 405(+3)
Calc - 248(+0)
Impress - 126(+0)
LibreOffice - 52(+2)
Draw - 47(+0)
Crashes - 45(+1)
Writer: docx filter - 42(+0)
Base - 36(+0)
Borders - 33(+0)
Writer: perf - 33(+1)
UI - 32(-1)
Writer: other filter - 30(-1)
Printing and PDF export - 26(+1)
Chart - 24(+0)
RTL - 23(-1)
BASIC - 22(+0)
filters and storage - 19(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 17(+0)
Formula Editor - 12(+0)
graphics stack - 12(+0)
framework - 3(+0)
sdk - 3(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
Installation - 2(+2)
Linguistic - 2(+0)
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