Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2023-Jan-11
Heiko Tietze
heiko.tietze at documentfoundation.org
Thu Jan 11 15:47:45 UTC 2024
Present: Sahil, Hossein, Rafael, Heiko
Comments: Stuart, Cor, Stephané, Miklos, Cor, Ady, Stephane
Tickets/Topics
* Implement a simple calculation of values to input size and position
of draw objects
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158685
+ eg. "3+3,2" => "6,2"
+ Kind of a stretch for *needing* to do the simple calculations (Stuart)
+ could be useful for more complex stuff like "pi()/4 * 1.2345" or
"sqr(sin(2)/cos(3)); similar to bug 72662 about the unit conversion (Heiko)
+ doubt if it is wise to start walking this path (Cor)
+ sounds useful (Sahil)
+ slash might be used as a number separator in some locales and one cannot
be sure it is a divider (Hossein)
+ many tools provide the functionality anyway (eg. KRunner on Linux/KDE
but also the search bar on Windows start a calculator) (Hossein)
+ very simple calculation wouldn't be enough anyway (Hossein)
=> WF
* Move rows with protected cells does not give warning
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158682
+ agree that a message is needed (Stephané), but depending on the case
+ "Source contents not removed because cells are protected."
+ "Contents were copied but not removed because cells are protected"
+ "Protected cells can not be modified." (the stock message)
+ dragging of protected cells is not possible anyway
+ message box interrupts the workflow and we could also just block the
drag feedback
+ however, paste is not available via menu/toolbar and the keyboard
allows to quickly confirm (Heiko)
+ Agree, a similar message is useful (Hossein)
+ one message should be fine (Hossein)
+ "Protected cells cannot be dragged"
+ stock message is fine (Hossein)
+ don't change the cursor if DnD is not possible (Sahil)
+ could also be a blocking cursor symbol (Hossein)
=> show the stock message and consider the drag cursor
* Original size button in image properties -> position and size tab
doesn't restore original size for paper size exceeding images in
Writer (and breaks image ratio)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158545
+ rename to "Reset dimensions" (Telesto)
+ Word uses just "Reset"
+ Reason for restricting object size to page size is consistency;
Writer defaults to capturing drawing objects inside the page
frame (Miklos)
+ MSO365 allows scaling beyond the page and cuts off the extra part
+ seldom need for sizing beyond the page (Cor)
+ sizing the image beyond the page is desirable (Rafael, Hossein)
+ Word allows this but not to move the image out of the page
+ simply "Reset" and a tooltip with "Resets width and height to the
original size, unless limited by the page size)
+ show original size as static text like in the compress dialog
before the Reset button to make the function more clear (Hossein)
+ also keep the ratio in all cases
=> rename, add static size info, and fix the ratio bug
* Better design for the Keep Ratio setting
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158531
+ not much benefit (Heiko)
+ go with a small button like in the sidebar (Rafael)
+ would be a toolbutton taking a lot of vertical space and
+ we cannot draw the connector arrows (Heiko)
+ what was the inspiration (Hossein)
+ GIMP has these buttons, for example
+ consistency is prime and we use typically checkboxes (Sahil)
=> go ahead (+2/0/-1); easy to revert
* Comemnt marker makes it difficult to see the data in a cell
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=158958
+ UNO command to toggle indicator on/off quickly (Stuart)
+ against a user-defined symbol, to revert the patch, and
some default margin to make space for the symbol (Heiko)
+ open to UNO command to toggle the indicator on/off, a
less obtrusive default color, different position for
the indicator (Heiko)
+ suggest to add an expert options to control the dynamic size
and another to disable the dynamic size (Heiko, Rafael)
+ use a different default color (Rafael)
+ is being discussed on bug 159096; maybe orange (Rafael)
+ make the default a bit smaller (Rafael, Heiko)
+ ideally do the best per code without option but if needed
make it as simple as possible; option is good for now (Hossein)
+ good default make configuration unnecessary (at least the UI),
use grid color and move the indicator to the edge (Rafael)
+ propose an expert value and use <=0 for dynamic size and everything
else as static value (Heiko)
+ change is needed (Ady), expert option sounds good (Cor, Stephane)
=> go with the expert options
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