ESC meeting minutes: 2024-05-02

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu May 2 14:29:16 UTC 2024


* Present:
     + Cloph, Hossein, Olivier, Caolan, Heiko, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael W, Eike, Regina, Stephan, Xisco, Thorsten, Stephane, Michael S, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6: 7.6.7 RC2 this week
       + last release in this line? (Xisco)
       + last planned, yes (Cloph)
     + 24.2: 24.2.4 RC1 in 2 weeks
     + 24.8: first alpha in 1 week

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Sometimes missing features to be documented
       + good if Olivier is aware
     + Highlight of the cell background during editing e.g.
       + so translators would discover these features as well.
     + Helpcontent2
         + Updates and fixes (ohallot, stragu)
         + Page for SEQUENCE Calc function (ohallot)
     + Guides
         + Stalled.
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         264(264) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     10(-9)   38(2)     101(3)     223(1)
          commented     18(0)    63(3)     251(13)    850(-2)
           resolved      6(-3)   19(3)      49(3)     119(2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 33 changes in 1 month, and 256 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 29 changes in 1 month, and 255 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 22 changes in 1 month, and 105 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 10 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
           MeBugzilla made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 7 changes in 1 month, and 53 changes in 1 year
           nobu made 7 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 6 changes in 1 month, and 71 changes in 1 year
           Cor Nouws made 5 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 4 changes in 1 month, and 68 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         242(242) (topicUI) bugs open, 35(35) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week    1 month    3 months   12 months
              added      5(2)       8(-3)     15(-3)      24(-2)
          commented     38(-11)   173(-18)   559(6)     1842(-60)
            removed      3(3)       5(3)       5(3)       14(3)
           resolved      7(-2)     30(-1)     87(-1)     315(0)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 107 changes in 1 month, and 1078 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 105 changes in 1 month, and 306 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 57 changes in 1 month, and 643 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 19 changes in 1 month, and 142 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 15 changes in 1 month, and 136 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 9 changes in 1 month, and 133 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 7 changes in 1 month, and 96 changes in 1 year
           Petros Christopoulos made 7 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 6 changes in 1 month, and 49 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 160657] Improve how Writer Navigator Headings are displayed when
            alphabetically sorted
     + [Bug 160694] Add .uno:VRuler button to NB Tabbed/Tabbed Compact cutomize
            View list
     + [Bug 160873] Usability: "OLE Object" probably not familiar language
            (Menu: Insert/OLE Object)
     + [Bug 160219] Add confirmation dialog to "Delete all comments"
            (.uno:DeleteAllNotes) in Calc
  -> + [Bug 160465] Ctrl+Shift+F6 is marked reserved, but doesn't do anything
       + ReservedKeys in svapp.cxx not working for triple-state
  -> + [Bug 95274] Wrong editing languages offered
       + gaelic or welsh not correctly reported per libexttextcat, unclear
         and input is highly welcome

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 63(+39) import failure, 59(+40) export failures
       + down from a higher, unreported numbers
       + it's an improvement, in fact.
     + 21 coverity issues
     + 5 ossfuzz issues

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 7.6.5.2    9807(+812)
     + 7.6.6.3    2944(+1016)
     + 24.2.1.2    12822(+961)
     + 24.2.2.2    6745(+2138)
     + let's wait until next week to see the results from the new release

* Mentoring (Hossein)
   + Reviewd submissions from newcomers
   + Added a new draft blog post for fixing crashes:
     Crash fixes, part 4: Assertion failure
     (Previous parts were around segfaults, aborts, and how to fix and test them)
     https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=929&preview=1&_ppp=63e6295aab
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months     12 months
                   open     104(22)     169(38)     201(42)       201(42)
                reviews     356(26)    1152(-40)   3648(-116)   12418(-90)
                 merged     288(75)     981(47)    3241(-10)    12462(-29)
              abandoned      10(-12)     57(3)      174(1)        657(-9)
            own commits     194(22)     694(22)    2169(2)       9190(-9)
         review commits      47(-16)    224(-35)    856(-15)     3056(-11)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months   12 months
                   open      35(-6)      71(-19)     95(-5)      95(-5)
                reviews     792(86)    2546(0)     7698(32)   29426(-22)
                 merged      17(-10)    114(-27)    378(24)    1693(17)
              abandoned      13(2)       54(3)      298(1)      707(15)
            own commits      22(-8)     106(-43)    436(-3)    1127(6)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)        0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 331(331)
        total 411(411)   assigned 28(28)   open 349(349)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 8 patches in 1 month, and 89 patches in 1 year
           Ritobroto Mukherjee made 7 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
           Rafał Dobrakowski made 5 patches in 1 month, and 16 patches in 1 year
             made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Juan José González made 4 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
           Kira Tubo made 4 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 4 patches in 1 month, and 34 patches in 1 year
           colton Garrett made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 3 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 3 patches in 1 month, and 60 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 496 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 94 review comments in 1 month, and 1418 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 92 review comments in 1 month, and 526 in 1 year
           Hossein made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 326 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 640 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 1086 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 918 in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 60 review comments in 1 month, and 352 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 712 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 52 review comments in 1 month, and 688 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#157029 changed Korean Font priority for LibreOffice UI ( DaeHyun Sung )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/157494
         tdf#42982:  Logs for RuntimeErrors ( Achintya Sharma )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/158688
         tdf#42982: improve UNO API error reporting ( Achintya Sharma )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/158689
         tdf#126573 Add SORT function to Libreoffice Calc ( Sahil Gautam )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/161613
         tdf#155856 Added cmake to complextoolbarcontrols ( Konstantin Limarev )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/162396
         tdf#155856 Added cmake to Draw example ( Konstantin Limarev )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/162670
         tdf#130857 refactor vclbuilder ( Omkar Acharekar  )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/163103
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Jakub Kościelak

* GSoC (Ilmari)
     + 8 projects accepted: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2024/organizations/libreoffice
     + bonus project from Linux Foundation: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/programs/2024/projects/7Y7YYa2G
       + good if UX keeps an eye on this (Ilmari)
       + the idea is that the UI doesn't change (Michael W)
     + next deadline: end of bonding period: 27th of May

* Commit Access

* LibreOffice Technology hackfest at Budapest (Miklos)
   + 4th & 5th June (Tue-Wed)
   + more details soon

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 3 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
   + stats are missing, problem with Jenkins
   + apart from that, (relatively) new problem with the macOS builders

       + some older builders start to segfault on the code (compiler crashes)

   + Noel had a stab at fixing those clang crashes, is this still outstanding? (Caolan)
     + not sure (Cloph)
     + seems to be limited to the macOS 12.5 / xcode 14.2 (Cloph)
     + newer macs are delivered with new macOS / newer xcode

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
     + A11y update (Michael W)
         + gtk4: improve a11y role mapping upstream and in LO
         + gtk3: working on issues with broken a11y hierarchy and wrong positions being
           reported (tdf#159369, tdf#160806, tdf#160837)
     + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
       + tdf#61444 Text layout broken across formatting changes
         + Candidate patch posted
         + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61444
       + tdf#124116 Hebrew & Arabic punctuation shifted across formatting changes
         + In-progress
       + Do you need commit access or you expect reviews for your changes? (Hossein)
         + Wouldn't mind a review, good to have a 2nd set of eyes
         + appreciate if others also take a look.
     + build with wsl-as-helper but from within git-bash (Cloph)
       + all changes are submitted to master
       + works with srcdir != builddir
       + not sure if to keep doxygen in wsl or not
         + initially was running out of memory with it, but have new ideas
       + considering it as finished for now
         + installer uses strawberry perl, not git-bash-perl for now.
       + thanks a lot, this is greatly appreciated, helped the Windows arm work (Thorsten)
         + seeing some hangs, though.
         + when building with help, saw those (Cloph)
         + saw it without help, but only on arm (Stephan)
         + would be interesting to see if the hanging process is also suspended (Cloph)
           + if so, that would be the one Cloph is also seeing with xsltproc/xargs
     + RFC: makefile cleanup/simplification (Cloph)
       + example: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/167005
       + if no concerns, would continue with this, turning these calls into just variablse
       + idea: give it a week for people to look at it, and decide
       + anything that makes gbuild less indirect, love it (Thorsten, Stephan)
       + what is the counter-argument? (Caolan)
         + makes the history harder to read (Cloph)
         + suggest to not wait for a week (Caolan)
     + Progress on Dev Guide API doc links (Ilmari)
       + changing to the use of wiki templates, that point to the correct API doc pages
       + even did some mass-replacements
       + perhaps even script some of this
       + 1400 items left, but improving

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1171 (+1)
         + enhancements: 274  (-4)
         + needsUXEval: 5 (-7)
         + haveBackTrace: 10 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+0)
         + documentation:  4 (+0)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  9 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + When printing ODT with mixed portrait and landscape, last page has incorrect orientation
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85094
             + bisected to an AOO commit
             + Patrick plans to take a look

* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + this week's focus: crashes
       + reviewing untouched reports, often able to duplicate or mark as fixed
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +76  +25 (-84) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       14
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 10
        Heiko Tietze            9
        Buovjaga                4
        V Stuart Foote          4
        László Németh           3
        Michael Stahl (allotropia) 3
        Noel Grandin            3
        Patrick Luby (volunteer) 3
        m_a_riosv               3

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Cor Nouws               3
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 3
        peter josvai            3
        Eyal Rozenberg          2
        Heiko Tietze            2
        László Németh           2
        Roland Baudin           2
        Tuomas Hietala          2
        Xisco Faulí             2
        nobu                    2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Heiko Tietze            4
        Stéphane Guillou        4
        Grandin, Noel           3
        Michael Stahl           3
        Németh, László          3
        Patrick Luby            3
        Kaganski, Mike          2
        Kelemen, Gabor          2
        Andreas Heinisch        1
        CP                      1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Stéphane Guillou        16
        m.a.riosv               8
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      6
        Dieter                  5
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    5
        Heiko Tietze            4
        Weghorn, Michael        4
        Ady                     2
        Nabet, Julien           2
        Németh, László          2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   3
         Stéphane Guillou       1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   3
         Stéphane Guillou       1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1234(-5) bugs open of 13325(+9) total 22(-3) high prio.

      done by:
         m.a.riosv              2
         Stéphane Guillou       1
         Vernon, Stuart Foote   1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 15(-1)
      Calc          - 2(-2)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 17(-3)
      Linux         - 3(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 434(-3)
      Calc                     - 225(-2)
      Impress                  - 127(-1)
      Draw                     - 53(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 50(-2)
      Writer: docx filter      - 45(+0)
      Base                     - 40(+0)
      Crashes                  - 40(-3)
      UI                       - 37(+0)
      Borders                  - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 35(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
      Chart                    - 24(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      filters and storage      - 22(+1)
      BASIC                    - 20(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 16(+0)
      graphics stack           - 12(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 7(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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