ESC meeting minutes: 2024-05-09

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu May 9 14:53:35 UTC 2024


* Present:
     + Cloph, Gabriel, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Jonathan, Olivier, Xisco, sockseight, Caolan, Stephane, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
     + 7.6: 7.6.7 release: this week, tomorrow
     + 24.2: 24.2.4 RC1 in 1 week
     + 24.8: first alpha this week, from master, tomorrow
       + week 23 is the feature freeze, 4 weeks
         + string / UI freeze 4 weeks after that
       + if you have a late feature proposal, announce that here
     + MAR-based updater will be enabled by default on Windows, but not Linux (Hossein)
       + rpm/deb update is handled by distro packages
       + for the ones taking binaries from TDF
       + TDF to provide rpm/deb repos?
       + the files are hosted already
       + just the repo defs are missing
       + suggesting to provide these repos
       + proposal is to povide repos and ignore MAR on Linux for now
       + interested in doing the scripting work? (Miklos)
         + the important part is the description / dependencies (Hossein)
         + willing to help
       + linux downloads are 2% of TDF downloads (Cloph)
         + so not a huge amount, but not objecting
         + only the the ones which are covered by rpm/deb binaries
       + what is the lag between Ubuntu-provided packages / TDF releases? (Olivier)
         + the package from Ubuntu follows TDF quickly
         + similar with Debian, thanks to Rene (Cloph)
           + with actively supported versions
         + see LibreOffice 7.3.7 for Ubuntu 22.04 https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/libreoffice (Hossein)

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents2
        + Updates and fixes (A Gelmini. S. Horacek, fitoshido)
        + Changes in makefiles (cloph)
        + Updates in doc properties (Dublin Core) by Dione Maddern
     + Core
        + Extended tips for sparklines
     + Guides
        + important fix by M. Stahl will trigger format review
           + in all guides,
           + starting after LO 24.2.4
           + tdf#159366
     + bugs with >20 comments
       + hard to follow, to understand what is the actual request
       + sometimes asking: if this feature is still used
       + thanks to the precise bugreports
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         263(263) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     14(5)    39(2)     107(7)     225(4)
          commented     20(10)   61(0)     255(5)     854(6)
           resolved      7(2)    23(5)      54(6)     121(4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 42 changes in 1 month, and 239 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 28 changes in 1 month, and 253 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 22 changes in 1 month, and 107 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 73 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 8 changes in 1 month, and 74 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 6 changes in 1 month, and 59 changes in 1 year
           Cor Nouws made 5 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 4 changes in 1 month, and 76 changes in 1 year
           nobu made 4 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Kira Tubo made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         240(240) (topicUI) bugs open, 35(35) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      4(-1)    10(1)     15(-1)      21(-3)
          commented     64(48)   186(30)   525(-6)    1761(-60)
            removed      0(-2)     4(-1)     5(0)       12(-1)
           resolved      8(2)     31(1)     79(-2)     308(-7)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 110 changes in 1 month, and 1031 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 108 changes in 1 month, and 317 changes in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 51 changes in 1 month, and 621 changes in 1 year
           Cor Nouws made 21 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 18 changes in 1 month, and 139 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 16 changes in 1 month, and 131 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 10 changes in 1 month, and 125 changes in 1 year
           Ady made 6 changes in 1 month, and 122 changes in 1 year
           jan d made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 161002] Missing item "Insert/Filed/More Fields.." in LibreOffice Draw
     + [Bug 160986] show 'X %' instead of 'X%'
     + [Bug 153309] Prevent direct formatting on writer by a password.
  -> + [Bug 98902] Right clicking on selected text unselects it if the cursor is on
            a misspelled word
     + [Bug 160955] When selecting an alternative link target for an OLE object, button
           says "Insert"
     + [Bug 160954] Can't change OLE Object link target from context menu and
            properties dialog
     + [Bug 160949] When editing an OLE object but not taking any action - undo edit
     + [Bug 160950] Warn before performing a destructive/lossy edit of OLE object
     + [Bug 146448] DOCX: A drawing object has a "Remove Textbox" which creates an
            empty frame (Captionbox/image frame is converted to Drawing object)
     + [Bug 158526] page number display in the status bar
     + [Bug 160920] Allow choosing the page style from the sheets tab
     + [Bug 160908] "Edit cell background highlight"

     + Vertical tabs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99528
       + many dialogs with many tabs are now changed to use vertical tabs
       + recent change by Samuel
       + concern if this will be 100% by the time 24.8 is out (Xisco)
       + more afraid if these vertical tabs work nicely in so many dialogs (Heiko)
         + think of macOS, Windows, etc.
       + https://conference.libreoffice.org/assets/Conference/Almeria/Caolan-2019-NativeGtk.pdf I tried a few variations of tab placement before, but maybe more luck this time (Caolan)
         + a slide mentions the dialog with the most tabs, some 16, won't fit even the left-hand-side
       + sounds similar to the German shortcuts topic (Xisco)
         + would be good to have consensus here, before going further
       + ask the design team to provide input? (Miklos)
         + people interested in the topic are informed (Heiko)
         + the change was kind of welcome
         + looks great on Gnome, broken with kf5
           + looks more like a list, not tabs
           + macOS/Windows need checking
           + to make it really appealing, needs more work, though
           + expect a lot of effort should come after the first commits are in
         + also consider the doc team's work to update screenshots (Olivier)
         + but if all work is done, it may be a nice fresh look (Heiko)
           + indeed, looks nice (Olivier)
         + so this is welcome, but very much error-prone (Heiko)
AI: invite Samuel next week if there are still burning fires (Heiko)

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 24(-39) import failure, 20(-39) export failures
      - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting is useful again
     + 1 coverity issue
      - just hit the weird possible coverity misunderstanding of virtual base warnings with a hammer
     + 6 ossfuzz issues
      - 5 timeouts, 1 new crash in 3rd party lib

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
     + 7.6.5.2    10647(+840)
     + 7.6.6.3    4068(+1124)
     + 24.2.0.3    17369(+591)
     + 24.2.1.2    13738(+798)
     + 24.2.2.2    8930(+1873)
     + 24.2.3.2    487(+0)

     + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/static%20bool%20%60anonymous%20namespace'::IsAllHiddenRow(const%20class%20SwRowFrame%20&%20const,%20const%20class%20SwTabFrame%20&%20const)

         - Fixed in 24.2.3.2. Thanks to Michael S.


      + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/static%20%20%60com::sun::star::document::DocumentProperties::create'::%601'::catch$14()

     - New in 24.2 branch. Most reported crash atm


* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + New EasyHack
    tdf#160992 - Fix DPI dependent tests
    https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160992
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      81(-11)    142(-21)    178(-17)     178(-17)
                reviews     450(100)   1206(56)    3718(76)    12462(22)
                 merged     350(51)    1140(127)   3369(127)   12593(81)
              abandoned      13(4)       55(-2)     172(-2)      656(-1)
            own commits     250(27)     827(103)   2303(119)    9229(1)
         review commits      51(3)      224(-8)     871(14)     3012(-51)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      37(4)       77(7)      103(8)       103(8)
                reviews     962(132)   2774(178)   7906(220)   29522(6)
                 merged      23(3)       98(-20)    385(5)      1635(-61)
              abandoned       9(-4)      49(-5)     288(-10)     704(-3)
            own commits      25(0)      105(-8)     449(10)     1126(-7)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 8(8)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 326(326)
        total 408(408)   assigned 26(26)   open 348(348)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 7 patches in 1 month, and 87 patches in 1 year
           Ritobroto Mukherjee made 5 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
             made 4 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           Kira Tubo made 4 patches in 1 month, and 14 patches in 1 year
           Jakub Kościelak made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           colton Garrett made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 3 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           Stéphane Guillou made 3 patches in 1 month, and 58 patches in 1 year
           Sahil Gautam made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Jonathan Clark made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 106 review comments in 1 month, and 512 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 548 in 1 year
           Hossein made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 338 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 84 review comments in 1 month, and 1440 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 920 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 596 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 698 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 472 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 1078 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 362 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         basegfx: BColorStops shouldn't derive from std::vector ( Tomaž Vajngerl )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/158710
         tdf#114441 change use of sal_uLong to better integer types ( Achintya Sharma )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/159028
         wip: don't typedetect ole before load ( Caolán McNamara )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/161084
         tdf#155856 Added cmake to DocumentLoader example ( Konstantin Limarev )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/162978

* GSoC (Ilmari)
     + https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2024/05/07/projects-selected-for-libreoffice-in-the-google-summer-of-code-2024/
     + next deadline: end of bonding period: 27th of May
     + blog post is published, seeing emails from contributors

* Commit Access
   + Jonathan Clark
     + pretty happy with the commits so far (Caolan)
     + with the condition to self-review in areas where you're confident, and not otherwise
     + also please help out with reviews for changes by others
=> go ahead (all)
AI: send welcome mail (Xisco)
AI: enable the commit bit (Cloph)

* LibreOffice Technology hackfest at Budapest (Miklos)
   + 4th & 5th June (Tue-Wed)
   + details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Budapest2024

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 4 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 202 ok: 193 ko:   7 fail ratio: 3.47% mean_ok:  10 ( 13) median_ok:   7 (  8)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 204 ok: 194 ko:   6 fail ratio: 2.94% mean_ok:   9 ( 12) median_ok:   7 (  9)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 201 ok: 193 ko:   7 fail ratio: 3.48% mean_ok:  10 ( 13) median_ok:   7 (  9)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 204 ok: 196 ko:   5 fail ratio: 2.45% mean_ok:  10 ( 13) median_ok:   8 ( 10)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 410 ok: 353 ko:  46 fail ratio: 11.22% mean_ok:  42 ( 44) median_ok:  41 ( 42)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 461 ok: 394 ko:  55 fail ratio: 11.93% mean_ok:  19 ( 21) median_ok:  15 ( 16)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 417 ok: 355 ko:  44 fail ratio: 10.55% mean_ok:  53 ( 55) median_ok:  49 ( 50)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 432 ok: 314 ko: 103 fail ratio: 23.84% mean_ok:  69 (114) median_ok:  71 ( 85)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 500 ok: 281 ko: 188 fail ratio: 37.60% mean_ok: 127 (127) median_ok:  99 ( 99)
gerrit_master              jobs:  61 ok:  40 ko:  17 fail ratio: 27.87% mean_ok: 100 (101) median_ok:  83 ( 83)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 440 ok: 241 ko: 172 fail ratio: 39.09% mean_ok: 130 (131) median_ok: 102 (102)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 UITest_sw_navigator                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
       4 CppunitTest_svx_unit                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_1                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport7                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       5 CppunitTest_sw_rtfexport8                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
      12 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil_branch
      13 CppunitTest_sw_a11y                gerrit_windows
    + this week: we had an unexpected restart of Jenkins last Thursday (Cloph)
     + it affected a couple of builds
     + also yesterday: Jenkins disk was filled up, caused a bigger distruption
     + it's not easy to trigger builds for these
       + possibly will work this around by rebasing
     + Windows failure on Friday: failed some builds due to leftovers
     + good news: macOS clang crash seems to be fixed by a patch, thanks Noel
       + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/167294
       + didn't see any failures with new enough master

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
     + A11y update (Michael W)
     + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
         + tdf#61444 Correct Writer text layout across formatting changes
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61444
             + In-flight
         + tdf#124116 Correct Writer text shaping across formatting changes
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124116
             + Fix mostly complete; investigating some justification issues
     + tdf#160984 Section-based continuous endnotes in Writer (Miklos)
     + Dev Guide updates (Ilmari)
         + API links all work now
           + finished by scripting it :-)
         + Stéphane adding newly-ported examples
         + Synchronising wiki content/code with the current state of core repo based on pointers in 'git log odk/examples'

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1208 (+28)
         + enhancements: 281  (+5)
         + needsUXEval: 5 (-2)
         + haveBackTrace: 10 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+0)
         + documentation:  6 (+2)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  9 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None



     + New high severity bugs of the week:

          None


* QA stats (Stéphane)
     + Some interesting consolidated/reviewed reports:
         * (sw) Top row(s) deselected when selecting table rows beyond what is visible: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=126377
         * (sw) Furigana (ruby) character selection system undesired output: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107184
         * (ui) Chart sidebar glitches reaches 12 duplicates: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94322
         * (ui) tabbed UI's cog/hamburger menu opens in wrong display. 4 reports on this issue, but Windows and Linux separate for now:
             * Windows: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132139
             * Linux: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154592
             * Should they be merged?
               + think it's fine to keep them separate (Ilmari)
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +103  -22 (-114) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        QA Administrators       20
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 18
        Heiko Tietze            10
        Mike Kaganski           10
        Olivier Hallot          6
        Buovjaga                5
        V Stuart Foote          5
        Michael Weghorn         3
        Patrick Luby (volunteer) 3
        Julien Nabet            2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Eyal Rozenberg          6
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 4
        Mike Kaganski           4
        Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 4
        NOYB                    3
        Regina Henschel         3
        Robert Großkopf         3
        V Stuart Foote          3
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Mihai Vasiliu           2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Kaganski, Mike          7
        Heiko Tietze            6
        Olivier Hallot          5
        Patrick Luby            3
        Balazs Varga            2
        Justin Luth             2
        Nabet, Julien           2
        Stéphane Guillou        2
        Vajna, Miklos           2
        Weghorn, Michael        2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        Stéphane Guillou        11
        Heiko Tietze            9
        m.a.riosv               9
        Nabet, Julien           6
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      3
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        *UNKNOWN*               2
        Dieter                  2
        Robert Großkopf         2
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       4
         Raal                   2


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       4
         Raal                   2


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1236(+4) bugs open of 13341(+14) total 23(+2) high prio.

      done by:
         Stéphane Guillou       3
         Ady                    2
         m.a.riosv              2
         Kaganski, Mike         1
         Raal                   1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 15(+1)
      Calc          - 2(+0)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      UI            - 2(+1)
      LibreOffice   - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 17(+1)
      Linux         - 4(+1)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 433(+1)
      Calc                     - 227(+3)
      Impress                  - 127(+0)
      Draw                     - 52(-1)
      LibreOffice              - 51(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 45(+0)
      Base                     - 40(+0)
      Crashes                  - 39(+1)
      UI                       - 38(+1)
      Borders                  - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 34(-1)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 25(+1)
      Chart                    - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      filters and storage      - 22(+0)
      BASIC                    - 20(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 16(+0)
      graphics stack           - 12(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 7(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      sdk                      - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 1(+0)


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