ESC meeting minutes: 2024-05-30
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu May 30 14:52:24 UTC 2024
* Present:
+ Heiko, Olivier, Eike, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael W, Regina, Stephan, sockseight, Xisco, Thorsten, Caolan, Hossein, Cloph, Stephane, Miklos
* Completed Action Items:
* Pending Action Items:
+ MAR update: include OS info in the user agent or file a bug to do it (Cloph)
+ patch in gerrit pending CI
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 24.2: 24.2.4 RC2 this week, to be tagged tomorrow
+ 24.8:
+ feature freeze (beta1) in 1 week
+ string / UI freeze 3 weeks after that
+ late features?
+ LET() Calc function (Thorsten)
+ Also, any idea when WASM TB will be upgraded? (Julien)
+ previously think it was a compiler failure (Cloph)
+ probably need a patch for lode.git first
+ wasn't aware of the tinderbox, doesn't send mails (Stephan)
+ can probably look at that next week
+ any reason why failure mails are not sent out? (Stephan)
+ nobody wanted to work on this (Cloph)
+ will turn it on, then (Stephan)
+ https://ci.libreoffice.org/view/tb%20platform%20status/ shows this as red as well (Miklos)
+ annoying vs useful ratio, probably useful to send mails failures for now (Thorsten)
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontents2
+ Completion of new MS functions Help pages (ohallot)
+ XLOOKUP, RANDARRAY, SORTBY...
+ Updates and fixes (erack, S. Horacek, D. Maddern, A. Barrientos)
+ Guides
+ Work in progress.
+ Question1: Calc functions argument naming
+ Verbose? e.g. =FUNCTION (Argument one; Argument two,...)
+ Mnemonic? e.g. =FUNCTION (Arg1; Arg2;...)
+ no strong opinion (Thorsten)
+ tend to prefer the mnemonics, these have to fit into a tooltip (Eike)
+ the wizard & help pages should have the same name (Olivier)
+ prefer verbose (Heiko)
+ easier to understand that way
+ the one doing the work gets to decide (Cloph)
+ Question2: New dialog layout
+ Stability/rendering among OS's.
+ Screenshooting for documentation
+ see "Vertical tabpages state" below (Miklos)
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
245(245) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 17(1) 47(3) 113(1) 224(3)
commented 20(-17) 89(-2) 257(-19) 871(3)
resolved 10(3) 30(3) 67(5) 131(7)
+ top 10 contributors:
Dione Maddern made 53 changes in 1 month, and 84 changes in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 51 changes in 1 month, and 247 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 17 changes in 1 month, and 247 changes in 1 year
Dieter made 13 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 1 year
Óvári made 10 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 7 changes in 1 month, and 77 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 7 changes in 1 month, and 71 changes in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 6 changes in 1 month, and 59 changes in 1 year
Bogdan B made 4 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 4 changes in 1 month, and 69 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
240(240) (topicUI) bugs open, 40(40) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 7(4) 13(3) 18(4) 25(3)
commented 92(63) 226(67) 553(41) 1757(47)
removed 0(0) 1(-2) 5(0) 10(-1)
resolved 6(1) 27(-1) 80(1) 293(3)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 109 changes in 1 month, and 965 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 97 changes in 1 month, and 671 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 57 changes in 1 month, and 327 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 53 changes in 1 month, and 166 changes in 1 year
Dieter made 26 changes in 1 month, and 127 changes in 1 year
Ady made 11 changes in 1 month, and 120 changes in 1 year
m.a.riosv made 11 changes in 1 month, and 48 changes in 1 year
Henschel, Regina made 11 changes in 1 month, and 38 changes in 1 year
Jérôme made 10 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
Rafael Lima made 10 changes in 1 month, and 59 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 157580] Allow notebookbar and groupedbarcompact groups sections to be
shown/hidden based on available space instead of only their order
+ [Bug 161304] context menu Column deletion duplicates Cut shortcut
+ [Bug 160999] Find sidebar results presented with huge gratuitous spaces
+ [Bug 161276] Add booklet option to print smaller format booklet
-> + [Bug 161032] Allow removing bundled extensions
+ dictionaries in particular
+ [Bug 161271] enhacement: support excel new excel regex formulae
+ [Bug 161255] Heuristically enable RTL-CTL and/or CJK language support
when installing
+ [Bug 161251] Support showing combinations of named style + direct formatting
in style list
-> + basic HTML cell render
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161223
+ =IF(A1 = 1; "Lorem <b>ipsum</b> dolor";"")
or evaluate autocorrection =IF(true; "Lorem *ipsum* dolor")
+ no support for formatting the result of a formula cell, only at a cell level (Eike)
+ not thrilled by the idea :-)
* Vertical tabpages state (Samuel/Thorsten)
+ review the state this week
+ tdf#161006, tdf#161020, tdf#161047, tdf#161049
*Fixed with https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/168081
+ tdf#161026
* Unclear problem, NEEDINFO
+ tdf#161030
* Fixed with https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/168251
+ suspect these should fix ~all reported problems (Thorsten)
+ looking forward to take screenshots for documentation (Olivier)
+ let's have it in, re-evaluate it next week how it's going (Xisco)
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 24(+1) import failure, 20(+2) export failures
- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
+ 0 coverity issues
+ 8 ossfuzz issues
- 7 timeouts, 0 OOM
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ 7.6.6.3 6848(+798)
+ 7.6.7.2 1117(+660)
+ 24.2.0.3 19166(+555)
+ 24.2.1.2 15782(+611)
+ 24.2.2.2 12792(+1102)
+ 24.2.3.2 5213(+2237)
+ https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/GetUserCall(SdrObject%20const%20*)
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/167940 should fix it ?
* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ Reviewed submissions from newcomers
+ Finalized and published a blog post
Porting Java tests to C++
https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2024/05/30/porting-java-tests-to-cpp/
+ Syncing odk/examples with Wiki
+ idea: Adding the commit hash + used line range to the Wiki
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 94(38) 183(37) 183(36) 183(36)
reviews 300(-62) 1310(-12) 3386(-152) 12504(18)
merged 217(-37) 1245(-59) 3239(-146) 12693(-25)
abandoned 7(-3) 48(-5) 162(-13) 659(0)
own commits 160(-17) 899(-47) 2328(-72) 9268(-5)
review commits 52(-20) 229(-4) 795(-25) 3008(3)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 36(0) 100(5) 102(6) 102(6)
reviews 696(-34) 3110(-22) 7580(-246) 29560(10)
merged 16(-9) 82(-8) 347(-19) 1575(-14)
abandoned 8(1) 27(-1) 140(-140) 710(6)
own commits 17(-18) 101(-6) 397(-16) 1141(4)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 9(9) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 328(328)
total 410(410) assigned 28(28) open 348(348)
+ top 10 contributors:
Dione Maddern made 21 patches in 1 month, and 55 patches in 1 year
Weblate made 5 patches in 1 month, and 27 patches in 1 year
Jakub Kościelak made 4 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
LeSasse made 4 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year
made 3 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
Hubert Figuière made 3 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
Printf Debugging made 3 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Marco Pinto made 2 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
Bayram Çiçek made 2 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
Kurt Nordback made 2 patches in 1 month, and 25 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Caolán McNamara made 144 review comments in 1 month, and 1512 in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 112 review comments in 1 month, and 570 in 1 year
Grandin, Noel made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 716 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 890 in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 538 in 1 year
Thorsten Behrens made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 614 in 1 year
Hossein made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 322 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 62 review comments in 1 month, and 1084 in 1 year
Christian Lohmaier made 48 review comments in 1 month, and 358 in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 44 review comments in 1 month, and 466 in 1 year
+ Patches automatically abandoned:
sal: initial osl::File sand-boxing commit for Unix. ( Michael Meeks )
- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/160036
* GSoC (Ilmari)
+ Lua UNO bridge (Stephan)
+ avoid a Lua dependency for now
+ feature branch is an option (Thorsten)
+ or combine the two (feature branch + gerrit) (Stephan)
* Commit Access
* LibreOffice Technology hackfest at Budapest (Miklos)
+ 4th & 5th June (Tue-Wed), in 0,5 weeks
+ details: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Budapest2024
+ on blog: https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2024/05/16/coming-up-libreoffice-technology-budapest-2024-hackfest/
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
+ resting since: 6 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 142 ok: 131 ko: 4 fail ratio: 2.82% mean_ok: 10 ( 14) median_ok: 7 ( 8)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 141 ok: 137 ko: 4 fail ratio: 2.84% mean_ok: 9 ( 13) median_ok: 7 ( 9)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 142 ok: 132 ko: 5 fail ratio: 3.52% mean_ok: 9 ( 13) median_ok: 7 ( 9)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 141 ok: 135 ko: 5 fail ratio: 3.55% mean_ok: 11 ( 15) median_ok: 6 ( 8)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 293 ok: 231 ko: 50 fail ratio: 17.06% mean_ok: 42 ( 45) median_ok: 43 ( 45)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 316 ok: 267 ko: 37 fail ratio: 11.71% mean_ok: 19 ( 21) median_ok: 15 ( 15)
gerrit_mac jobs: 368 ok: 242 ko: 112 fail ratio: 30.43% mean_ok: 54 ( 54) median_ok: 51 ( 51)
gerrit_windows jobs: 281 ok: 180 ko: 73 fail ratio: 25.98% mean_ok: 113 (159) median_ok: 106 (122)
gerrit_master_ml jobs: 337 ok: 167 ko: 129 fail ratio: 38.28% mean_ok: 159 (160) median_ok: 117 (118)
gerrit_master jobs: 54 ok: 25 ko: 23 fail ratio: 42.59% mean_ok: 126 (126) median_ok: 90 ( 90)
gerrit_master_seq jobs: 280 ok: 142 ko: 103 fail ratio: 36.79% mean_ok: 165 (165) median_ok: 122 (122)
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 CppunitTest_sc_vba_macro_test gerrit_linux_gcc_release
3 CppunitTest_sw_mailmerge gerrit_windows
3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport12 gerrit_linux_gcc_release
3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport5 gerrit_linux_gcc_release
4 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter2 gerrit_windows
6 CppunitTest_vcl_gtk3_a11y gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
11 CppunitTest_sw_a11y gerrit_windows
14 aborted by jenkins job timeout gerrit_windows
14 UITest_writer_tests4 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
+ CppunitTest_vcl_gtk3_a11y: increased timeout for AT-SPI method calls (Michael W)
+ https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/87c41bbf04c361746bf9c2373aa144a02d971303
+ seems to have helped from what I can see
+ this week: a bit rough on the Windows side (Cloph)
+ build times nearly doubled
+ is it before/after the analyzer addition on Windows? (Caolan)
+ https://ci.libreoffice.org/job/gerrit_windows/buildTimeTrend
+ not affecting all builders? not exactly sure (Cloph)
+ other Windows problem: had to take down some bots due to a timeout
+ plan to use cloud instances during peak hours for linux/clang (Cloph)
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ A11y update (Michael W)
+ improvements to Calc a11y memory usage by Patrick (tdf#158914)
+ improvements to editable combobox a11y (tdf#160971)
+ improvements to vertical tabpages a11y :
+ https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/c61f6a78022de6b29f031f3ac6726520032de187
+ https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/ceca4cde363154b0c7e276d65fc87ec94eb0bb9a
+ analysis for screen reader browse mode (related: tdf#137955, tdf#35652, tdf#91739, tdf#96492)
+ RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
+ tdf#81272: Slow CJK rendering due to font fallback
+ Per layout: O(nlogn) -> O(n)
+ tdf#161145: CJK characters have extra spacing since LO 7
+ Regression causing CJK characters to overflow cells on certain docx
+ Currently investigating to compare behavior against MSO
+ results from the vcl-level text layout changes?
+ will check (Xisco)
+ what doc corpus do you use? (Miklos)
+ a subset (Xisco)
+ not sure about the size off the top of the head
+ tdf#160984 Section-based continuous endnotes in Writer (Miklos)
+ slowly done for the feature freeze
* invitation list for LibOCon (Michael W)
+ 10 slots available (for development)
+ ideally, ESC would provide a ranked list of up to 20 people to Sophie
+ how to proceed?
+ those people can be also outside the LO project (Cloph)
+ makes sense (Thorsten)
+ deadline?
+ not sure (Michael W)
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1141 (-20)
+ enhancements: 275 (-2)
+ needsUXEval: 10 (-2)
+ haveBackTrace: 10 (+0)
+ needsDevAdvice: 45 (-1)
+ documentation: 3 (+0)
+ android: 0 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 9 (+0)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
None
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
None
* QA stats (Stéphane)
+ Some consolidated / updated reports:
+ (sw) same document in two windows are not independent, viewport glitches in many ways.
* main report has 9 duplicates: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43253
* related: shift doesn't match ruler: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116372
* related: page view setting affects all windows: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129827
+ discussion on relevant language listing in Language menu (also related to
libexttextcat): https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95274
* there is nothing wrong with it, it's just used at a wrong place (Caolan)
* it's given a single word
* the lib works when it's given a longer piece of text
* perhaps the menu should not do any kind of guessing, either
* think this would nicely with multiple paragraphs of text
+ bibisected regressions needing volunteers:
* (sw) cursor position not restored (now 14 dupes): https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140147
* (sw) image sticks to right margin when object to its left: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139232
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+105 +21 (-117) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 26
QA Administrators 16
Heiko Tietze 12
Dione Maddern 6
Buovjaga 5
Hossein 4
Jonathan Clark 3
m_a_riosv 3
Eike Rathke 2
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 2
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 5
Mihai Vasiliu 5
Eyal Rozenberg 4
Hossein 4
Rafael Lima 3
Ulrich Windl 3
gopitzohlsen@gmail.com 3
Callegar 2
Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2
johnks 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Dione Maddern 5
Heiko Tietze 4
Jonathan Clark 4
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2
Bogdan B 2
Németh, László 2
Vajna, Miklos 2
Weghorn, Michael 2
Andreas Heinisch 1
Balland-Poirier, Laurent 1
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Stéphane Guillou 45
m.a.riosv 11
Heiko Tietze 10
Dieter 4
Robert Großkopf 4
Ady 3
Ilmari Lauhakangas 3
Nabet, Julien 3
Vernon, Stuart Foote 2
Ahmed Hamed 1
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Stéphane Guillou 4
Raal 3
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Raal 3
Stéphane Guillou 3
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1251(+1) bugs open of 13390(+8) total 23(+0) high prio.
done by:
Robert Großkopf 2
Stéphane Guillou 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 13(+0)
Calc - 3(+0)
Impress - 2(+0)
LibreOffice - 2(+0)
UI - 2(+0)
by OS:
All - 16(+0)
Linux - 5(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 2(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 431(-1)
Calc - 231(-1)
Impress - 126(-1)
LibreOffice - 53(+0)
Draw - 52(+0)
Writer: docx filter - 44(+0)
UI - 43(-1)
Base - 42(+1)
Crashes - 41(+0)
Borders - 35(+0)
Writer: perf - 34(+0)
Writer: other filter - 31(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 26(+0)
Chart - 24(+0)
RTL - 23(+0)
BASIC - 21(+0)
filters and storage - 21(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 16(+0)
graphics stack - 13(+0)
Formula Editor - 7(+0)
framework - 3(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
sdk - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 1(+0)
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