ESC meeting minutes: 2024-11-07
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Nov 7 15:47:04 UTC 2024
* Present:
+ Olivier, Caolan, Cloph, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael W, Regina, Stephan, Hossein, Heiko, Micahel S, Miklos
* Completed Action Items:
+ Sahil commit access (Cloph)
+ Tested Cygwin fixes with 3.5 and 3.6 (Hossein)
* Pending Action Items:
+ Prod update to https://www.documentfoundation.org/certified-developers/ (Thorsten)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 25.2 alpha1 in 2 weeks
+ 24.8.3 rc2 this week:
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/branch:libreoffice-24-8-3+status:open
+ Windows scrolling behavior change, not sure if that's wanted (Cloph)
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/175746 -- UX input on this?
+ not objecting (Heiko)
+ tagging this evening
+ 24.2.7 macOS arm crash (Cloph)
+ hotfix tag + new macOS arm binaries, just different git hash
+ thanks to Patrick/Stephan for the fixes
+ have a loplugin to catch unexpected dynamic_cast failure there (Stephan)
+ when a silently missing key function of a class makes the dynamic_cast fail
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontents2
+ WIP for Tagalog language (ohallot)
+ Comments Sidebar page (D. Maddern)
+ Refactor text functions (Pierre F, ohallot)
+ feedback from translations (ohallot)
+ Extended tips for new dialogs (ohallot)
+ Guides
+ WIP.
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
228(228) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 7(7) 16(16) 96(96) 259(259)
commented 15(15) 33(33) 320(320) 989(989)
resolved 3(3) 8(8) 51(51) 172(172)
+ top 10 contributors:
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 23 changes in 1 month, and 128 changes in 1 year
Olivier Hallot made 12 changes in 1 month, and 342 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 6 changes in 1 month, and 78 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 6 changes in 1 month, and 164 changes in 1 year
Pierre F made 5 changes in 1 month, and 223 changes in 1 year
Weghorn, Michael made 3 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
Stéphane Guillou made 3 changes in 1 month, and 129 changes in 1 year
Dione Maddern made 2 changes in 1 month, and 112 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 2 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 1 changes in 1 month, and 3 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
231(231) (topicUI) bugs open, 34(34) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 4(4) 17(17) 23(23) 29(29)
commented 25(25) 170(170) 359(359) 1674(1674)
removed 0(0) 1(1) 3(3) 10(10)
resolved 6(6) 19(19) 49(49) 254(254)
+ top 10 contributors:
Heiko Tietze made 86 changes in 1 month, and 888 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 44 changes in 1 month, and 173 changes in 1 year
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 38 changes in 1 month, and 401 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 30 changes in 1 month, and 184 changes in 1 year
Dieter made 18 changes in 1 month, and 133 changes in 1 year
*UNKNOWN* made 13 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
Aditya (Addy) Sahu made 12 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 12 changes in 1 month, and 52 changes in 1 year
Roman Kuznetsov made 9 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
grofaty made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 88918] Edit→Hyperlink… is greyed out when an object with a hyperlink
is selected in Draw
-> + [Bug 163620] Community Discussion: UI changes for 'LibreOffice Theme'
GSoC project
+ discussion around how to control it
+ currently based on extensions
+ WIP, plan is support this on ~every platform
+ [Bug 163762] Can't paste multiple lines as table rows
+ [Bug 163725] "Delete Columns" and "Delete Rows" labels now include gratuitous
comment "(for uprotected cells)"
+ [Bug 48294] EDITING: Edit >Links is always gray/deactivated & (thus)
impossible break link to media file using
* Crash testing (Caolan)
+ 24(+0) import failure, 22(+0) export failures
- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
- basically unchanged from our new resting point
+ 100 coverity issues
+ 1 ossfuzz timeout
+ could detect hangs? (Hossein)
+ we don't report those currently (Caolan)
* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org)
+ 24.2.7.2 75(+0)
+ 24.8.0.3 23806(+0)
+ 24.8.1.2 19107(+0)
+ 24.8.2.1 31698(+0)
+ delta is wrong (Cloph)
+ received some comments around crashreport dialog is not appearing (Hossein)
+ Comment below https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2024/10/24/crash-fix-part-5-crash-report-tool/
+ related: maybe stack traces for hangs would be also interesting
* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ Reviewed submissions from newcomers
+ Added a new EasyHack
tdf#163738 - Use insert() to add multiple values in containers instead of a loop
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163738
+ Cygwin/mingw hang problem
+ New fixes provided by Takashi
https://cygwin.com/cgit/newlib-cygwin/log/
+ Tested, fixes both 3.5 (stable) and master 3.6 (master)
+ 2 new fixes, problem seems to be resolved
+ plain: wait for the 3.5 release, then safe to upgrade
+ also ping the git-bash guys
+ CI job for cygwin changes? (Hossein)
+ not sure if this is viable
+ think this was a regression
+ don't mind if somebody wants to run this, but WSL is the future (Cloph)
+ after the Windows baseline update
+ and would have to be a dedicated builder to have a fixed baseline otherwise
+ moving to git-bash won't completely replace cygwin (Ilmari)
+ cygwin is not a fast moving target (Hossin)
+ maybe manual testing is also enough (Ilmari)
+ git-bash is easier to downgrade, thanks to win-get (Cloph)
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 75(75) 117(117) 169(169) 179(179)
reviews 390(390) 1448(1448) 3544(3544) 13548(13548)
merged 202(202) 1113(1113) 3642(3642) 13942(13942)
abandoned 4(4) 29(29) 138(138) 751(751)
own commits 139(139) 730(730) 2610(2610) 9913(9913)
review commits 84(84) 307(307) 773(773) 3231(3231)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 32(32) 288(288) 347(347) 353(353)
reviews 658(658) 2724(2724) 8086(8086) 30780(30780)
merged 68(68) 186(186) 389(389) 1374(1374)
abandoned 4(4) 14(14) 44(44) 552(552)
own commits 64(64) 196(196) 371(371) 1416(1416)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 9(9) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 335(335)
total 424(424) assigned 26(26) open 358(358)
+ top 10 contributors:
Bogdan B made 93 patches in 1 month, and 180 patches in 1 year
Pierre F made 10 patches in 1 month, and 98 patches in 1 year
Samuel Adesola made 5 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Dr. David Alan Gilbert made 5 patches in 1 month, and 31 patches in 1 year
Xuan Chen made 4 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
Theppitak Karoonboonyanan made 4 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
Marc Mondesir made 4 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
Aditya (Addy) Sahu made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 4 patches in 1 month, and 86 patches in 1 year
Oromidayo Owolabi made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Thorsten Behrens made 138 review comments in 1 month, and 750 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 136 review comments in 1 month, and 828 in 1 year
Caolán McNamara made 116 review comments in 1 month, and 1360 in 1 year
David Gilbert made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 116 in 1 year
allotropia jenkins made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 216 in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 664 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 76 review comments in 1 month, and 1138 in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 540 in 1 year
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 874 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 838 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Chris Gill
Jack Honour
Lorenzo Lovato
Marilyn Edem
Peace Obienyi
Oromidayo Owolabi
Rahim Siddiq
Shannon Scire (csumb.edu)
Barry-Thomas-Paul: Moss
ZOK zok
* Remove support for Windows 7 & 8 in 25.8? (Ilmari)
+ Would unblock some cleanup work
+ Announce this now, then act later?
+ Would be useful for an upcoming Windows welding
+ We already have these listed as deprecated (Cloph)
+ so what remains is the active removal
+ In favor, including 8.1 as well (Michael W)
=> mention this in the release notes (Ilmari)
* Outreachy (Ilmari)
+ deadline to select the interns is ~now
* Commit Access
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
+ resting since: 2 week (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 161 ok: 152 ko: 4 fail ratio: 2.48% mean_ok: 8 ( 43) median_ok: 6 ( 24)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 162 ok: 157 ko: 3 fail ratio: 1.85% mean_ok: 8 ( 41) median_ok: 6 ( 18)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 160 ok: 151 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.25% mean_ok: 8 ( 41) median_ok: 6 ( 22)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 162 ok: 154 ko: 5 fail ratio: 3.09% mean_ok: 7 ( 40) median_ok: 5 ( 18)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 323 ok: 265 ko: 44 fail ratio: 13.62% mean_ok: 43 ( 70) median_ok: 45 ( 53)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 378 ok: 313 ko: 47 fail ratio: 12.43% mean_ok: 22 ( 48) median_ok: 19 ( 29)
gerrit_mac jobs: 345 ok: 301 ko: 35 fail ratio: 10.14% mean_ok: 52 ( 53) median_ok: 44 ( 45)
gerrit_windows jobs: 325 ok: 287 ko: 29 fail ratio: 8.92% mean_ok: 37 ( 51) median_ok: 37 ( 38)
gerrit_master_ml jobs: 380 ok: 240 ko: 107 fail ratio: 28.16% mean_ok: 119 (122) median_ok: 85 ( 85)
gerrit_master jobs: 47 ok: 29 ko: 16 fail ratio: 34.04% mean_ok: 76 ( 76) median_ok: 68 ( 68)
gerrit_master_seq jobs: 333 ok: 213 ko: 89 fail ratio: 26.73% mean_ok: 120 (124) median_ok: 85 ( 85)
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 CppunitTest_sw_uibase_shells gerrit_linux_gcc_release
3 CppunitTest_writerperfect_impress gerrit_windows
5 UITest_impress_tests gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
14 CppunitTest_sw_tiledrendering2 gerrit_linux_gcc_release
+ maybe related to https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/174869 / newly introduced test
+ a bit painful, affects the canary build
+ some downtime for Jenkins, now fixed
+ expecting a few more builders in the near future -> faster builds
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ A11y update (Michael W)
+ make UNO a11y API more type-safe
+ align AT-SPI DBus signals sent by toolkits with AT-SPI spec
+ RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
+ tdf#36709: Font-relative first-line indent (CJK)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36709
+ Continued work
+ Writer documents with font-relative indents roundtrip correctly
+ Now the layout part
+ Planning to do this one use-case at a time
+ then the GUI part
+ PVS-Studio update (Xisco)
+ perhaps put results somewhere first, then ai xisco turn this into CI job
+ transition to ODF 1.4 (Regina)
+ a problem: some tests validate against 1.3
+ by the implicit validation works with the latest ODF version
+ suggestion: skip the validation in this case (Regina)
+ a seprate could be to also validate against old versions
+ maybe the test could specify which version it wants for the validation (Michael S)
+ can be done separately, OK to tmp disable validation to unblock ODF 1.4 migration
+ currently working on extrusion, then handles for custom shapes (Regina)
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1399 (+1399)
+ This script has been broken for a while, please fix it to show proper week-on-week delta values. (Eyal)
+ enhancements: 338 (+338)
+ needsUXEval: 11 (+11)
+ haveBackTrace: 10 (+10)
+ needsDevAdvice: 48 (+48)
+ documentation: 3 (+3)
+ android: 0 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 9 (+9)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
Old:
Fixed:
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ VIEWING - High CPU and lag when scrolling on Wayland (kf5/kf6)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152911
+ Allow undocking of Sidebar decks
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85905
* QA stats (Ilmari)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+101 +0 (-104) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
Mike Kaganski 27
Buovjaga 12
QA Administrators 10
Heiko Tietze 8
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 5
Julien Nabet 3
Olivier Hallot 3
V Stuart Foote 3
Aditya Sahu 2
Armin Le Grand 2
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Mike Kaganski 7
Eyal Rozenberg 6
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 3
Orwel 3
Dragan Marinović 2
Gerald Pfeifer 2
Hossein 2
Michael Weghorn 2
Mihai Vasiliu 2
Roman Kuznetsov 2
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Heiko Tietze 5
Kelemen, Gabor 4
Aditya (Addy) Sahu 3
Kaganski, Mike 3
Grandin, Noel 2
Jim Raykowski 2
Le Grand, Armin 2
Olivier Hallot 2
1
*UNKNOWN* 1
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
Ilmari Lauhakangas 12
m.a.riosv 10
Heiko Tietze 9
Raal 4
Stéphane Guillou 4
Weghorn, Michael 4
*UNKNOWN* 3
Samuel Carleial 3
Vernon, Stuart Foote 3
Chika 2
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Kelemen, Gabor 3
Aron Budea 1
Ilmari Lauhakangas 1
Justin Luth 1
Weghorn, Michael 1
Stéphane Guillou 1
Timur Gadzo 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Kelemen, Gabor 2
Bogdan B 1
Ilmari Lauhakangas 1
Justin Luth 1
Weghorn, Michael 1
Németh, László 1
Raal 1
Stéphane Guillou 1
Timur Gadzo 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1196(+1196) bugs open of 13707(+13707) total 20(+0) high prio.
done by:
Roman Kuznetsov 2
Ady 1
Bogdan B 1
Eyal Rozenberg 1
Justin Luth 1
Weghorn, Michael 1
Raal 1
Stéphane Guillou 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 9(+0)
Calc - 6(+0)
Impress - 2(+0)
LibreOffice - 2(+0)
UI - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 12(+0)
Linux - 5(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 3(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 389(+0)
Calc - 241(+0)
Impress - 125(+0)
LibreOffice - 51(+0)
Draw - 46(+0)
Writer: docx filter - 42(+0)
Base - 37(+0)
Crashes - 37(+0)
UI - 34(+0)
Borders - 32(+0)
Writer: perf - 32(+0)
Writer: other filter - 31(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 25(+0)
Chart - 24(+0)
RTL - 24(+0)
BASIC - 22(+0)
filters and storage - 20(+0)
Writer: doc filter - 17(+0)
Formula Editor - 12(+0)
graphics stack - 12(+0)
framework - 3(+0)
sdk - 3(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 2(+0)
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