ESC meeting minutes: 2024-10-17
Miklos Vajna
vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Oct 17 14:45:26 UTC 2024
* Present:
+ Hossein, Michael W, Caolan, Thorsten, Gabriel, Heiko, Ilmari, Jonathan, Michael S, Regina, Stephan, Xisco, Cloph, Miklos, D
* Completed Action Items:
* Pending Action Items:
+ create a https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/25.2 wiki page (Cloph)
+ alpha 1: week 47
+ code freeze: around week 1
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 24.8.3 rc1 in 1 week
+ 24.2.7 rc2 in 1 week
* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Missing Olivier
+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
227(227) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
created 2(-3) 22(-7) 113(-3) 259(0)
commented 3(-12) 89(-27) 359(-10) 1005(-13)
resolved 1(-1) 7(-3) 67(-2) 172(1)
+ top 10 contributors:
Olivier Hallot made 30 changes in 1 month, and 339 changes in 1 year
Pierre F made 14 changes in 1 month, and 218 changes in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 14 changes in 1 month, and 56 changes in 1 year
Bogdan B made 13 changes in 1 month, and 22 changes in 1 year
Dione Maddern made 11 changes in 1 month, and 98 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 9 changes in 1 month, and 118 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 8 changes in 1 month, and 91 changes in 1 year
m.a.riosv made 4 changes in 1 month, and 36 changes in 1 year
nobu made 4 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 1 year
nutka made 3 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
233(233) (topicUI) bugs open, 30(30) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
added 6(2) 14(4) 17(6) 25(6)
commented 26(-2) 128(-2) 325(-8) 1678(15)
removed 0(-1) 1(-1) 2(0) 11(0)
resolved 0(-2) 16(-2) 61(-3) 263(0)
+ top 10 contributors:
Vernon, Stuart Foote made 67 changes in 1 month, and 394 changes in 1 year
Heiko Tietze made 57 changes in 1 month, and 894 changes in 1 year
Eyal Rozenberg made 37 changes in 1 month, and 166 changes in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 31 changes in 1 month, and 165 changes in 1 year
Kelemen, Gabor made 15 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year
Henschel, Regina made 9 changes in 1 month, and 57 changes in 1 year
m.a.riosv made 8 changes in 1 month, and 50 changes in 1 year
Seth Chaiklin made 8 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year
Ady made 7 changes in 1 month, and 106 changes in 1 year
Dieter made 6 changes in 1 month, and 125 changes in 1 year
+ [Bug 163478] Dropdowns of value ranges (such as font sizes) are as likely to
expect a smaller value as a larger value and so the current value should
appear in the middle of the dropdown list (unless it's the min or max value)
-> + [Bug 163458] Support distinguishing data series / categories by hatching and/or
patterns rather than colors
+ duplicate of bug 62925 / WF
+ introduce Chart Styles as requested in bug 62925 as a GSoC project
+ looking for mentors
+ [Bug 163447] One-step text highlight using keyboard shortcut, new UNO
+ [Bug 163449] Want toggle for clockwise/counter-clockwise slice progression
+ [Bug 163426] notes pane: slides switching hotkeys
+ [Bug 163427] Can't set a hyperlink on a text box / drawing object
+ [Bug 163396] popup info about the node »…Office.Common … Misc…Crash Report«
in the Expertconfig
+ [Bug 163389] There should be an easier way to set up page numbering
+ [Bug 156328] Tabbar sheet movement controls (First, Next, Previous, Last) enhance
to also move cursor focus between sheets
+ [Bug 163136] WRITER -- in "manage templates" window (also named as Templates) the
template filename should be shown, too
+ [Bug 163305] Can't select discontiguous cell ranges with Ctrl/Shift+mouse
indication
+ [Bug 163304] Want a "clone dimensions" command & button
+ [Bug 163259] Add Numbering Type selection buttons on the top of the Customize tab
of the Bullets-Numbering-Dialog
+ [Bug 163260] „Alignment“ dropdown should be converted to 3 buttons like in
Impress, Position tab of Bullets-Numbering-Dialog
+ [Bug 163261] Add a note about paragraph DF settings and a „Clear Formatting“
button to the new Bullets and Numbering dialog
+ [Bug 163262] Extend the Spotlight feature to highlight list styles, custom
list styles
+ [Bug 163235] Text in textbox not vertically-centered when line spacing is
not single
+ [Bug 163187] Enable clipboard Paste Special dialog (Ctrl+Shift+V) for input to
the Find box (QFS)
+ [Bug 163171] Row height increased when you add text, not decreased when
you remove it
-> + Bug 161492 Vertical Tab dialogs--Options column in Area section is
not wide enough in paragraph style dialog
+ Bug 161351 vertical tab dialogs--F11 List styles examples are not readable
+ Bug 162552 Format Cells dialog should show Numbers tab when opening the
first time
+ both "solved" by reverting the VT
+ step by step: we are going back; the current inconsistency is not ideal (Heiko)
+ if nobody wants to work on it, then go back to the old consistent state (Michael W)
+ except the hyperlink dialog
+ agree (Xisco)
+ actual change is a single line in the .ui files
+ if the mission is: "be consistent or not at all", hard to do that in half a year, but not disagreeing here (Thorsten)
* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ 79(+0) import failure, 77(+0) export failures
- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
- 2 new from me, fixed
+ 149 coverity issues, downward trend continues
+ 2 ossfuzz issues
- timeouts
* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
+ 24.2.6.2 1645(+538)
+ 24.8.0.3 17805(+1877)
+ 24.8.1.2 12741(+3490)
+ 24.8.2.1 3997(+3007)
- https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/static%20void%20sw::%60anonymous%20namespace'::TextFormattingCheck::check(class%20SwNode%20*)
+ Most reported crash in 24.8.2.1. Maybe fixed by c5f4fe10589acff4d253cc3d32acaf67c7456bd7 from Caolán
* Mentoring (Hossein)
+ Finalised and published a new blog post
WSL for building LibreOffice
https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/2024/10/17/wsl-for-building-libreoffice/
+ Multiple calls with mentees for some wsl build issues
+ Improved the instructions in the Wiki
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnWSLWindows
+ git-bash 2.47 seems to be problematic, downgrading to 2.46 helps at least
+ The issue is that sometimes build process gets stuck
committer... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 61(-32) 118(-33) 167(-23) 167(-23)
reviews 348(-64) 1276(-234) 3466(-104) 13262(-30)
merged 305(-9) 1354(-2) 3686(-48) 13771(96)
abandoned 6(-7) 58(2) 189(-15) 779(3)
own commits 172(-92) 993(-11) 2675(-66) 10015(23)
review commits 33(-39) 227(-30) 689(-13) 3168(-12)
contributor... 1 week 1 month 3 months 12 months
open 172(34) 248(55) 267(56) 267(56)
reviews 612(-296) 3052(-198) 8150(-294) 30738(-94)
merged 9(-17) 93(-10) 284(-2) 1438(-18)
abandoned 1(-2) 11(-5) 66(-6) 561(-5)
own commits 14(-12) 76(-9) 280(-2) 1290(-5)
review commits 0(0) 0(0) 0(0) 0(0)
+ easyHack statistics:
needsDevEval 8(8) needsUXEval 1(1) cleanup_comments 331(331)
total 418(418) assigned 25(25) open 356(356)
+ top 10 contributors:
Mohit Marathe made 12 patches in 1 month, and 15 patches in 1 year
Armin Le Grand (allotropia) made 7 patches in 1 month, and 82 patches in 1 year
Dione Maddern made 5 patches in 1 month, and 85 patches in 1 year
Kira Tubo made 4 patches in 1 month, and 29 patches in 1 year
Pierre F made 4 patches in 1 month, and 88 patches in 1 year
Rashesh Padia made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
Omkar Acharekar made 3 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
Sahil Gautam made 3 patches in 1 month, and 10 patches in 1 year
Ritobroto Mukherjee made 3 patches in 1 month, and 31 patches in 1 year
Ashok made 3 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
+ top 10 reviewers:
Thorsten Behrens made 132 review comments in 1 month, and 688 in 1 year
Caolán McNamara made 114 review comments in 1 month, and 1408 in 1 year
Vajna, Miklos made 94 review comments in 1 month, and 1148 in 1 year
Michael Stahl made 94 review comments in 1 month, and 876 in 1 year
Xisco Fauli made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 764 in 1 year
Nabet, Julien made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 892 in 1 year
Gabor Kelemen made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 194 in 1 year
Vajngerl, Tomaž made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 350 in 1 year
Ilmari Lauhakangas made 54 review comments in 1 month, and 640 in 1 year
Kaganski, Mike made 50 review comments in 1 month, and 520 in 1 year
+ big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
Usman Akinyemi
+ LO Conf workshop feedback? (Miklos)
+ 8-12 attendees, people picked what they are interested (Michael W)
+ feedback was: they learned something new
+ was quite good & positive
+ it was more about giving an overview & then start working
+ thanks to everyone who presented there (Hossein)
+ ideal would be 3 days to have more time & progress with tasks
+ this year it was only 1.5 days
+ depends on the goal, though
* Commit Access
+ David Gilbert (Xisco)
+ seeing good work on the poppler PDF import front (Miklos)
+ in favor (Thorsten, Caolan
AI: Xisco to send the welcome mail
* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
+ resting since: 20 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64 jobs: 128 ok: 126 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.56% mean_ok: 11 ( 28) median_ok: 6 ( 12)
gerrit_android_arm jobs: 128 ok: 118 ko: 5 fail ratio: 3.91% mean_ok: 11 ( 28) median_ok: 6 ( 13)
gerrit_android_x86 jobs: 128 ok: 126 ko: 2 fail ratio: 1.56% mean_ok: 11 ( 28) median_ok: 6 ( 15)
gerrit_android_x86_64 jobs: 128 ok: 120 ko: 4 fail ratio: 3.12% mean_ok: 10 ( 28) median_ok: 6 ( 15)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 268 ok: 209 ko: 49 fail ratio: 18.28% mean_ok: 51 ( 67) median_ok: 50 ( 54)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release jobs: 302 ok: 249 ko: 24 fail ratio: 7.95% mean_ok: 25 ( 39) median_ok: 20 ( 23)
gerrit_mac jobs: 259 ok: 227 ko: 21 fail ratio: 8.11% mean_ok: 49 ( 49) median_ok: 42 ( 42)
gerrit_windows jobs: 287 ok: 187 ko: 77 fail ratio: 26.83% mean_ok: 57 ( 71) median_ok: 57 ( 61)
gerrit_master_ml jobs: 346 ok: 171 ko: 128 fail ratio: 36.99% mean_ok: 116 (117) median_ok: 88 ( 89)
gerrit_master jobs: 60 ok: 29 ko: 25 fail ratio: 41.67% mean_ok: 73 ( 73) median_ok: 65 ( 65)
gerrit_master_seq jobs: 284 ok: 142 ko: 101 fail ratio: 35.56% mean_ok: 125 (125) median_ok: 94 ( 94)
+ tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
3 CppunitTest_sw_ooxmlexport5 gerrit_mac
3 JunitTest_svx_unoapi gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
3 UITest_impress_tests2 gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
50 aborted by jenkins job timeout gerrit_windows
+ last week was bad for Windows (Cloph)
+ timeout failure rate was also high
+ hope the new baseline / WSL will help
+ together with a daily reboot
* What’s cooking (Miklos)
+ A11y update (Michael W)
+ tdf#160982 ("LibreOffice doesn't work with Microsoft Narrator")
+ MSAA/IAccessible to UIA proxy should generally makes this work when win a11y
bridge is active
+ RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
+ tdf#161145 CJK chars have extra spacing since LO 7
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161145
+ DOC/DOCX interop regression hotspot
+ Extended MS_WORD_COMP_GRID_METRICS flag to use compatible advance algorithm
+ it's submitted already
+ Playing with a new baseline with Windows: 2012R2 to Windows 11 & VS 2022 (Cloph)
+ and then perhaps a VS update to something even more recent
+ the setup looks good already, to be used for 25.2
+ currently just blocked on admin
+ no plan to actively drop cygwin building, though
* PVS-Studio license (Xisco)
- https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163486
- Agreement to have a free annual license if they are mentioned in the README.md file?
- found useful issues, but lots of false positives
- sounds good to me (Thorsten)
- we already mention Coverity in the README (Ilmari, Miklos)
- possibly it has multiple categories and some are more important/useful than the others (Hossein)
- just having results is not too useful (Stephan)
- for false positives: how does dismissing issues work? (Cloph)
- didn't look at this yet (Xisco)
- Manual for "Suppression of individual false positives (Mark as False Alarm)"
https://pvs-studio.com/en/docs/manual/0017/
- good to start small, then extend the categories (Caolan)
* QA update (Xisco)
+ UNCONFIRMED: 1312 (+46)
+ enhancements: 333 (+18)
+ needsUXEval: 12 (+7)
+ haveBackTrace: 10 (+1)
+ needsDevAdvice: 47 (+0)
+ documentation: 3 (+0)
+ android: 0 (+0)
+ iOS: 0 (+0)
+ Online: 9 (+0)
+ Most pressing bugs:
New:
None
+ New high severity bugs of the week:
+ Correttore ortografico italiano non funziona
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163231
+ already marked as fixed, thanks to Julien
+ Conditional format: Incorrect dialog open when editing IconSet
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163269
+ Pranam?
* QA stats (Xisco)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+112 -5 (-80) overall)
many thanks to the top bug squashers:
QA Administrators 16
Mike Kaganski 9
Buovjaga 8
Xisco Faulí 8
Justin L 5
V Stuart Foote 3
Hossein 2
Miklos Vajna 2
Theppitak Karoonboonyanan 2
m_a_riosv 2
+ top 10 bugs reporters:
Eyal Rozenberg 14
Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 9
Michael Otto 7
Mike Kaganski 4
Jeff Fortin Tam 3
Jens Schwartz 2
Xisco Faulí 2
libue 2
Dan Dascalescu 1
Fred Olness 1
+ top 10 bugs fixers:
Kaganski, Mike 4
Justin Luth 3
Xisco Fauli 3
Theppitak Karoonboonyanan 2
Vajna, Miklos 2
Andreas Heinisch 1
Benoit Ruggi 1
Caolán McNamara 1
Eyal Rozenberg 1
Hossein 1
+ top 10 bugs confirmers:
m.a.riosv 12
Ilmari Lauhakangas 10
Nabet, Julien 6
Kaganski, Mike 4
Vernon, Stuart Foote 3
*UNKNOWN* 2
Henschel, Regina 2
Németh, László 2
Raal 2
Xisco Fauli 2
* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
+ more accurate - down to a single commit.
+ http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
+
done by:
Xisco Fauli 3
Raal 1
* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
+ http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
+
done by:
Xisco Fauli 3
Kaganski, Mike 1
Raal 1
* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
+ 1218(-8) bugs open of 13674(+8) total 21(-1) high prio.
done by:
Xisco Fauli 2
steve 1
m.a.riosv 1
Kaganski, Mike 1
Raal 1
Henschel, Regina 1
* ~Component count net * high severity regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
Writer - 10(+0)
Calc - 6(-1)
Impress - 2(+0)
LibreOffice - 2(+0)
UI - 1(+0)
by OS:
All - 13(-1)
Linux - 5(+0)
Mac OS X - 0(+0)
Windows - 3(+0)
* ~Component count net * all regressions
+ http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
Writer: other - 401(-3)
Calc - 246(-3)
Impress - 122(-2)
LibreOffice - 53(+0)
Draw - 49(+0)
Writer: docx filter - 44(+1)
Crashes - 40(-1)
Base - 38(+0)
UI - 35(+0)
Borders - 33(+0)
Writer: perf - 33(+0)
Writer: other filter - 31(+0)
Printing and PDF export - 26(+0)
Chart - 24(+0)
RTL - 23(+0)
BASIC - 22(+1)
filters and storage - 19(-1)
Writer: doc filter - 17(+0)
graphics stack - 12(-1)
Formula Editor - 11(+0)
framework - 3(+0)
sdk - 3(+0)
Extensions - 2(+0)
Linguistic - 2(+1)
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