ESC meeting minutes: 2025-04-10

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Apr 10 14:28:25 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Cloph, Heiko, Michael W, Olivier, Caolan, Hossein, Ilmari, Jonathan, Xisco, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:
   + bump the clang in LODE to version 18 (Hossein)
     + in progress at https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/lode/+/182317, needs more work (Cloph)
     + to be followed up in the gerrit change
     + OK to merge the lode change (Cloph)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 24.8.7 rc1 in 1 week
   + 25.2.3 rc1 in this week: tagging later today
     + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/q/branch:libreoffice-25-2+status:open

* Documentation (Olivier)
   +Helpcontents
     + Updates and fixes (Celia Palacios, ohallot)
     + Help page on BASIC number format codes (ohallot)
   + Guides
     + work in progress.

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         219(219) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     4(-4)    21(-1)     47(-6)    297(-3)
          commented     5(-18)   45(-5)    106(-25)   852(-14)
           resolved     1(-2)     9(-1)     25(-4)    172(-2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 24 changes in 1 month, and 365 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 9 changes in 1 month, and 163 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 8 changes in 1 month, and 79 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 5 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year
           nobu made 5 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 4 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Raal made 4 changes in 1 month, and 16 changes in 1 year
           Rafael Lima made 4 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 4 changes in 1 month, and 113 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 3 changes in 1 month, and 74 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         223(223) (topicUI) bugs open, 12(12) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      4(1)      7(3)      7(3)       13(2)
          commented     44(18)   123(20)   261(13)    1254(9)
            removed      0(0)      0(0)      0(0)        8(0)
           resolved      1(-5)    16(-8)    41(-6)     210(-6)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 43 changes in 1 month, and 640 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 38 changes in 1 month, and 200 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 31 changes in 1 month, and 377 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 22 changes in 1 month, and 199 changes in 1 year
           Karthik Godha made 16 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 14 changes in 1 month, and 57 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 9 changes in 1 month, and 15 changes in 1 year
           Mohamed Hani made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
           Devashish gupta made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Fortin Tam, Jean-François made 6 changes in 1 month, and 29 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 166100] Insert custom break, "Insert Break..." dialog in Page mode,
            show current Page Style
     + [Bug 166101] Introduce context-specific mini-toolbar above the context menu,
            on right-click
     + [Bug 166062] The Find Toolbar must be customizable to have all options from
            the Quick Find Sidebar
  -> + [Bug 166052] Filename is corrupted when saved as and change filter
       + encouraging comment from Mike K there
     + [Bug 165084] Libreoffice Writer Web crashed when I was editing html code
            in my html file, and after went to design mode
     + [Bug 165956] Find toolbar missing a Regular Expression toggle button
  -> + [Bug 166026] Feature request - preference setting to disable or turn off
            opening screen that defaults to Recent Documents
       + starts center topic

* Crash testing (Caolan)
     + 184(+40) import failure, 73(+41) export failures
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
       - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183760 is a fix for the jump, under control
       - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183761 for fix for older issue
     + 4 coverity issues
     + 6 ossfuzz issues
       - 3 crashes, 2 timeouts, 1 OOM

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
     + 25.2.0.2    205(+2)
     + 25.2.0.3    29977(+2079)
     + 25.2.1.2    20466(+3337)
     + 25.2.2.2    3236(+2301)

     + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/SwRenderData::ViewOptionAdjustStop()

     - One of the most reported crashes in 24.8 and 25.2

     - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166107

     - Patch in gerrit: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183948


* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + Reviewed submissions from newcomers
    + DifficultyInteresting EasyHacks
     + Help is appreciated from the mentors
  + Added a new EasyHack:
    tdf#166128 - Recreate splash screen with VCL weld
    https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166128
           committer...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      59(13)      140(15)     143(12)      143(12)
                reviews     264(-132)   1384(-70)   3650(-38)   13318(-80)
                 merged     223(-10)     952(-16)   3186(32)    14066(-5)
              abandoned      11(-2)       57(-3)     190(6)       729(-4)
            own commits     166(19)      590(22)    2107(55)     9874(13)
         review commits      30(-27)     215(-10)    619(-16)    2910(-31)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month     3 months   12 months
                   open     531(216)   1111(496)   1113(-9)    1113(-9)
                reviews     646(-98)   2616(2)     7502(80)   30866(-54)
                 merged      16(-19)    108(2)      316(0)     1348(-21)
              abandoned      16(3)       77(-1)     184(3)      515(-2)
            own commits      10(-21)    101(-2)     251(-4)    1228(-18)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)        0(0)        0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 351(351)
        total 419(419)   assigned 45(45)   open 336(336)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Simon Chenery made 12 patches in 1 month, and 42 patches in 1 year
           Devashish gupta made 9 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
           Karthik Godha made 7 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
           Rashesh Padia made 4 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
           Manish Mahapatra made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Shardul Vikram Singh made 3 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           Nam Bui made 3 patches in 1 month, and 3 patches in 1 year
           Marco Pinto made 2 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Juan C. Sanz made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
           Celia Palacios Gómez Tagle made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 154 review comments in 1 month, and 808 in 1 year
           allotropia jenkins made 112 review comments in 1 month, and 530 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 1144 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 1236 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 98 review comments in 1 month, and 356 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 90 review comments in 1 month, and 686 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 80 review comments in 1 month, and 1046 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 564 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 794 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 812 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         sc : use AVX if available ( Arnaud Versini )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/151792
         The value of no solution was found to be an incorrect behavior fix. ( Todor Balabanov )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168922
         add right border test tdf#156782 ( Keldin Maldonado )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/169779
         tdf#161837 Use double instead of Fraction class ( Hossein   )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/170084
         vcl: test Bitmap greypalette existence functions ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/174265
         vcl: flatten BitmapEx::createAlphaBlendFrame() ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/174513
         tdf#163713: Histogram chart displays odd behavior with multiple series ( Kurt Nordback )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176006
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177085
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177089
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177105
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177106
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177108
         vcl: aStandardSize -> nStandardSize ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177387
         vcl: make variables const in BitmapEx::AutoScaleBitmap() ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177388
         vcl: flatten functions in BitmapEx.cxx ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177422
         sc: translate german name in variable ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/180902
         WIP: tdf#133918 not yet working as desired ( Eike Rathke )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/180966
         tdf#163741 oox: Make shape pointer reference to correct placeholder ( Mohit Marathe )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/180976
         chart2: add calculated-y role to use for HistogramChart ( Tomaž Vajngerl )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/181051
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Celia Palacios Gómez Tagle
           Fernando Meza

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + discussed various GSoC project ideas with mentees (Hossein)
   + helping the ones without easy hacks (Ilmari)
   + important: Ideas page should really contain items with mentors only
   + Next step: 29 April - GSoC contributor proposal rankings due from Org Admins

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 20 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)
   + discussing the candidate(s) for the current round (Miklos)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 157 ok: 144 ko:   4 fail ratio: 2.55% mean_ok:   8 ( 12) median_ok:   5 (  7)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 157 ok: 144 ko:   7 fail ratio: 4.46% mean_ok:   8 ( 13) median_ok:   5 ( 10)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 158 ok: 146 ko:   4 fail ratio: 2.53% mean_ok:   8 ( 12) median_ok:   5 (  8)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 157 ok: 143 ko:   6 fail ratio: 3.82% mean_ok:   8 ( 13) median_ok:   5 ( 11)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 332 ok: 235 ko:  71 fail ratio: 21.39% mean_ok:  37 ( 40) median_ok:  35 ( 37)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 379 ok: 288 ko:  61 fail ratio: 16.09% mean_ok:  20 ( 23) median_ok:  19 ( 19)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 359 ok: 270 ko:  61 fail ratio: 16.99% mean_ok:  51 ( 52) median_ok:  45 ( 45)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 335 ok: 242 ko:  62 fail ratio: 18.51% mean_ok:  38 ( 55) median_ok:  35 ( 35)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 419 ok: 205 ko: 163 fail ratio: 38.90% mean_ok:  85 ( 85) median_ok:  70 ( 71)
gerrit_master              jobs:  67 ok:  25 ko:  22 fail ratio: 32.84% mean_ok:  77 ( 77) median_ok:  49 ( 49)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 352 ok: 180 ko: 141 fail ratio: 40.06% mean_ok:  85 ( 85) median_ok:  72 ( 72)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days:
       3 CppunitTest_sw_layoutwriter4                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_writerperfect_writer                gerrit_windows
       3 UITest_calc_tests8                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
       4 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 CppunitTest_sc_a11y                gerrit_windows
       4 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + this week: better than last week (Cloph)
     + drawinglayer flush problem is no longer in the baseline of changes, probably

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + a11y code refactoring/deduplication
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#130592 Incorrect line breaking for CJK text in GUI
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130592
     + tdf#117554 Non-breaking characters don't work with CJK text
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117554
     + tdf#139418 DOCX: Incorrect layout in generated Japanese manuscript paper
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139418
       + a real stress-test for our interop story here
   + meson for externals (Cloph)
     + ready for harfbuzz https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183345
       + works on linux, macOS and Windows (both cygwin and wsl-as-helper)
       + new dependencies (when building harfbuzz): meson/ninja and pkgconf
         + using internal python and custom pkgconf on windows to be able to use
           windows style paths/cygwin meson would try to hand unix-path to msvc
       + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/extern/+/183785 (precompiled pkgconf for win)
       + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183806 (winget configuration update)
       + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/lode/+/183534 (for lode/macOS and win/cygwin)
       + potentially needs some tweaks when cross-compiling to "exotic" targets
     + in short, if you pull & your Windows build breaks:
       + pull in lode.git
       + re-setup in lode (when using cygwin, or rerun winget configure with the relevant config files from core/.config)
       + try again to build core.git
   + Implemented native window snapping menu items in windows menu on macOS (Patrick):
     + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183762
     + Not available in Start Center because it has no windows menu
     + For it to work in LibreOffice's dialog windows, needs the following hacky patch
       to work around that dialog windows are natively pinned to their native parent
       window:
       + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/183953

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1617 (+16)
         + enhancements: 432  (+8)
         + needsUXEval: 4 (+2)
         + haveBackTrace: 14 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 47 (+0)
         + documentation:  5 (-1)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  7 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
         + CRASH: Opening print dialog after print preview
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=166107
             + bisected to Nagy Tibor


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Template change isn't applied to presentation
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163157
             + bisected to Maxim

         + Impress list bullets are not centered / drifting
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163206
             + bisected to Tomaz

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +89  +9 (-66) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        V Stuart Foote          9
        Andreas Heinisch        6
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 5
        Jonathan Clark          5
        Justin L                3
        Mike Kaganski           3
        m_a_riosv               3
        opp                     3
        Buovjaga                2
        Noel Grandin            2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 12
        Jonathan Clark          3
        Eyal Rozenberg          2
        Peyton R                2
        enriquermcd             2
        nobu                    2
        wodsfort                2
        Justin L                1
        Khaled Hosny            1
        Mark Mclean             1

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Kelemen, Gabor          4
        Justin Luth             3
        Andreas Heinisch        2
        Caolán McNamara         2
        Grandin, Noel           2
        *UNKNOWN*               1
        Kaganski, Mike          1
        Marco Pinto             1
        Michael Stahl           1
        Nabet, Julien           1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        m.a.riosv               12
        Olivier Hallot          8
        *UNKNOWN*               7
        Kelemen, Gabor          4
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      3
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    3
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Raal                    2
        Xisco Fauli             2
        opp                     2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         libre                  1
         Raal                   1
         Timur Gadzo            1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         libre                  1
         Raal                   1
         Timur Gadzo            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1241(+1) bugs open of 14013(+2) total 23(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Xisco Fauli            1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 9(+0)
      Calc          - 6(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 4(+0)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      Installation  - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 17(+0)
      Linux         - 4(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 413(+1)
      Calc                     - 240(+0)
      Impress                  - 126(-1)
      LibreOffice              - 55(+0)
      Draw                     - 46(-1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 45(+0)
      Crashes                  - 43(+0)
      Base                     - 37(+1)
      Borders                  - 35(+0)
      UI                       - 34(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 33(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
      Chart                    - 27(+0)
      filters and storage      - 26(-1)
      Printing and PDF export  - 25(+0)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      BASIC                    - 19(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
      graphics stack           - 13(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 11(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Installation             - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 2(+0)


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