ESC meeting minutes: 2025-08-21

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Aug 21 14:28:51 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Cloph, Caolan, Olivier, Ilmari, Heiko, Jonathan, Hossein, Xisco, Miklos, Stephan

* Completed Action Items:
   + QA stats: bibisect duplication removal from the script (Xisco)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 25.8.1 rc1: this week, tagging this evening
   + 25.2.6 rc2: next week
   + there had been no Windows daily builds for weeks, unfortunately (Aron)
     + will have it back after the Windows baseline update, just need to sort out licensing (Cloph)
     + do you know why this happens on master, but not on the release branch? (Xisco)
       + maybe the media framework work (Cloph)
         + but not sure
       + would it be an option to revert that to unblock daily builds? (Xisco)
         + can test with a local revert (Cloph)
       + another option: see what are the other differences between release build vs jenkins CI
       AI: try a local revert (Cloph)
   + bad crash in 25.8.0 (Xisco)
     + tab UI, try to open.. some Writer documents -> crash

     - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167956

     - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/StyleItemController::DrawEntry(OutputDevice%20&,SfxStyleSheetBase%20*)

     + already in the release branch -> maybe shorten the .1 release cycle?
     + can shorten the cycle (Cloph)
     + already in libreoffice-25-8, correct?
       + yes (Xisco)

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Helpcontents
        +Updates and fixes (M. Weghorn, ohallot)
     + Guides
        + WIP

     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         213(213) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     8(2)     14(0)      42(2)     238(-8)
          commented     5(-3)    35(-2)    192(-6)    793(-38)
           resolved     4(3)      7(2)      32(4)     122(-4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 43 changes in 1 month, and 380 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 16 changes in 1 month, and 90 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 4 changes in 1 month, and 26 changes in 1 year
           Jürgen Kirsten made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year
           Leroy made 2 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 2 changes in 1 month, and 61 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year
           Henschel, Regina made 2 changes in 1 month, and 14 changes in 1 year
           nobu made 2 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
           Werner Tietz made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         221(221) (topicUI) bugs open, 16(16) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      3(1)     9(-3)     12(-1)     18(-1)
          commented     24(3)    85(-26)   160(-15)   855(-22)
            removed      1(1)     1(1)       1(-1)      7(1)
           resolved      2(2)     4(1)      20(1)     138(-2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 37 changes in 1 month, and 388 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 20 changes in 1 month, and 286 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 15 changes in 1 month, and 31 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 13 changes in 1 month, and 193 changes in 1 year
           vic made 12 changes in 1 month, and 12 changes in 1 year
           m.a.riosv made 10 changes in 1 month, and 34 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 8 changes in 1 month, and 67 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 6 changes in 1 month, and 127 changes in 1 year
           Olivier Hallot made 6 changes in 1 month, and 6 changes in 1 year
           Sahil Gautam made 6 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 167951] Misleading dialog title
         + Pivot table > data/row|col options -> unclear where set
         + input from Calc people is welcome

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
     + 134(+0) import failure, 27(+0) export failures
      - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 40 coverity issues
     + 6 ossfuzz issues
      - 2 OOM, 4 Timeouts
      - 1 crash fixed earlier
     + invited Fedora LibreOffice maintainers to officesecurity

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
     + 25.8.0.1    257(+14)
     + 25.8.0.2    220(+38)
     + 25.8.0.3    65(+0)
     + 25.8.0.4    11(+0)

     + New in 25.8.0:
         - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/StyleItemController::DrawEntry(OutputDevice%20&,SfxStyleSheetBase%20*)
         - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/static%20void%20lcl_SwFormatToFlatItemSet(const%20class%20SwFormat%20*,%20class%20std::optional%3CSfxItemSet%3E%20&%20const)

     - They share traces, could be the same crash

     - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167956


* Mentoring/easyhack update (Hossein)
  + Added a new draft blog post for o3tl::convert
    Using o3tl::convert for unit conversion
    https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=1440&preview=1&_ppp=31744bd72d
  + WSL Windows article updated for winget method: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnWSLWindows (Ilmari & Cloph)
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      87(-5)     139(-9)     142(-8)      142(-8)
                reviews     498(22)    1424(114)   3048(160)   11348(122)
                 merged     392(-15)   1516(124)   3663(129)   13171(177)
              abandoned      15(2)       55(-1)     157(-1)      630(1)
            own commits     258(14)    1074(81)    2622(32)     9981(56)
         review commits      46(-15)    174(28)     474(11)     2558(-18)
         contributor...   1 week      1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      154(75)     242(102)    244(104)     244(104)
                reviews     1114(-48)   3740(218)   8570(202)   32360(252)
                 merged       29(-15)    108(15)     299(4)      2296(-28)
              abandoned       17(-10)     50(-4)     615(-36)    1557(-18)
            own commits       14(-5)      66(0)      182(1)      1083(-9)
         review commits        0(0)        0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 343(343)
        total 405(405)   assigned 46(46)   open 320(320)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Armin Le Grand (collabora) made 11 patches in 1 month, and 16 patches in 1 year
           Pierre Vacher made 6 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
           Simon Chenery made 4 patches in 1 month, and 70 patches in 1 year
           Ujjawal Kumar made 4 patches in 1 month, and 23 patches in 1 year
           Manish Mahapatra made 4 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 3 patches in 1 month, and 19 patches in 1 year
           Adam Seskunas made 2 patches in 1 month, and 18 patches in 1 year
           Nam Bui made 2 patches in 1 month, and 6 patches in 1 year
           Parth Raiyani made 2 patches in 1 month, and 5 patches in 1 year
           Neil Fachin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 2 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Vajna, Miklos made 126 review comments in 1 month, and 1266 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 116 review comments in 1 month, and 838 in 1 year
           Grandin, Noel made 108 review comments in 1 month, and 494 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 102 review comments in 1 month, and 800 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 578 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 88 review comments in 1 month, and 116 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 86 review comments in 1 month, and 782 in 1 year
           Weghorn, Michael made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 548 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 74 review comments in 1 month, and 282 in 1 year
           Kłos, Szymon made 62 review comments in 1 month, and 292 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#145538 Use range based for loops ( Rafał Dobrakowski )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/181927
         tdf#163691 replace memcpy with std::copy in basic, binaryurp and canvas ( Catalin-Ionut Vasile )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/185422
         tdf#145614 Convert #define to constexpr in fileformat.h ( ENRIQUE VILLEGAS )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/185727
         gpgme: upgrade to 2.0.0 ( Xisco Fauli )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/186185
         tdf#160309 Fix crash after ungroup-undo for nested groups ( David Hashe )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/186393
         Resolves tdf#165474 - Make scrollbar visible on vertical tabs ( Heiko Tietze )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/186401
         PoCs for LibreOffice BASIC IDE auto-completion data gathering ( Devansh Varshney )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/186475
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Manas Todi
           Nilesh Patra

* GSoC (Ilmari)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + mentors: if the project time is to be extended, let Ilmari know before 25 Aug
     + 4 projects are already extended

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/László)
   + resting since: 13 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 177 ok: 170 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.13% mean_ok:  14 ( 21) median_ok:  10 ( 18)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 177 ok: 174 ko:   1 fail ratio: 0.56% mean_ok:  14 ( 21) median_ok:  10 ( 17)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 177 ok: 171 ko:   1 fail ratio: 0.56% mean_ok:  13 ( 20) median_ok:  12 ( 17)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 177 ok: 173 ko:   1 fail ratio: 0.56% mean_ok:  13 ( 20) median_ok:  10 ( 16)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 367 ok: 283 ko:  70 fail ratio: 19.07% mean_ok:  43 ( 48) median_ok:  39 ( 44)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 417 ok: 342 ko:  53 fail ratio: 12.71% mean_ok:  25 ( 29) median_ok:  19 ( 22)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 397 ok: 311 ko:  65 fail ratio: 16.37% mean_ok:  61 ( 63) median_ok:  54 ( 55)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 374 ok: 304 ko:  49 fail ratio: 13.10% mean_ok:  40 ( 67) median_ok:  37 ( 48)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 459 ok: 250 ko: 162 fail ratio: 35.29% mean_ok: 104 (104) median_ok:  96 ( 96)
gerrit_master              jobs:  48 ok:  27 ko:  17 fail ratio: 35.42% mean_ok:  75 ( 75) median_ok:  72 ( 72)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 410 ok: 223 ko: 145 fail ratio: 35.37% mean_ok: 107 (107) median_ok: 100 (100)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_sc_subsequent_export_test4                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       3 CppunitTest_vcl_svm_test                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 CppunitTest_sd_png_export_tests                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 PythonTest_codemaker_python                gerrit_mac
       8 aborted by jenkins job timeout                gerrit_windows
      15 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
    + this week: good week in terms of failures (Cloph)
      + ~all failures are limited to specific changes
    + number of killed builds: still pretty high
    + one Linux builder is down, Jenkins is acting up
    + migrating Jenkins to a new distro (Cloph)
      + Jenkins ran out of inodes, failed to create new files
      + removed old logs for now
      + still on the old hypervisor system
      + migrating to a Hetzner platform this weekend or next week
      + expecting no big change to Jenkins itself, just the underlying distro

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + AT-SPI Collection support in Qt (needed e.g. for Orca browse mode support)
       + pending change: https://codereview.qt-project.org/c/qt/qtbase/+/669871
       + related AT-SPI2/libatspi/ATK fixes, cleanup and added documentation

     + https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/at-spi2-core/-/merge_requests/194

     + https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/at-spi2-core/-/merge_requests/196

           + https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/at-spi2-core/-/merge_requests/198
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + tdf#167567 Qt: Underlined letter in Arabic labels drawn as disconnected form
       + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167567
       + Needed another revision, but landed now
       + are you aware of additional issues still? (Hossein)
         + ligatures, etc.
         + no, the qt tracker still lists problems (Jonathan)
         + the current fix is an improvement, it was just broken before, now better
   + ODF-TC (Olivier + Regina)
       + Discussions on LOOKUP terminology, for all the lookup functions, 6-7 ones (Olivier)
         + discussion is still ongoing
       + started with the proposal from Jonathan (Regina)
         + will get back to it in 2 weeks, in September

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1928 (+21)
         + enhancements: 512  (+1)
         + needsUXEval: 7 (-4)
         + haveBackTrace: 17 (+1)
         + needsDevAdvice: 48 (-1)
         + documentation:  1 (+0)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  6 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None

      Fixed:
         + CRASH: importing certain documents
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=168017
             + Thanks Caolán

         + CRASH: opening a second document with tabbed notebookbar
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167956
             + Thanks Noel

     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + Dark mode: font dropdown shows white rectangles (GTK3)
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167812
             + Noel?

* QA stats
     + Ilmari is now responsible for triaging bugs, too
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +95  +8 (-60) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        BogdanB                 4
        Markus Mohrhard         4
        Mike Kaganski           4
        Noel Grandin            4
        Olivier Hallot          4
        Xisco Faulí             4
        Buovjaga                3
        V Stuart Foote          3
        Balázs Varga            2
        Heiko Tietze            2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Regina Henschel         10
        prrvchr                 4
        Eyal Rozenberg          3
        Jim Avera               3
        Don                     2
        Saburo                  2
        nobu                    2
        Alex Thurgood           1
        Andreas Säger           1
        Dan Essin               1

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Grandin, Noel           4
        Mohrhard, Markus        4
        Olivier Hallot          4
        Weghorn, Michael        3
        Balazs Varga            2
        Xisco Fauli             2
                                1
        *UNKNOWN*               1
        Caolán McNamara         1
        Justin Luth             1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        m.a.riosv               18
        Raal                    6
        Olivier Hallot          5
        Xisco Fauli             4
        Bogdan B                3
        Heiko Tietze            3
        yosi3260+libre at gmail.com 3
        Henschel, Regina        2
        Jesus Solis             2
        nobu                    2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     4
         vijaya chandra         4
         Raal                   2
         Xisco Fauli            2
         jussuom                1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1290(+1) bugs open of 14254(+13) total 21(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Bogdan B               2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         nobu                   2
         m.a.riosv              1
         Henschel, Regina       1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 10(+0)
      Calc          - 5(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 3(+0)
      Impress       - 1(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)
      filters and storage - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 15(+0)
      Linux         - 5(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 0(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 429(+3)
      Calc                     - 246(-4)
      Impress                  - 133(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 61(+0)
      Draw                     - 48(+1)
      Writer: docx filter      - 46(+1)
      Crashes                  - 44(+0)
      UI                       - 42(+0)
      Borders                  - 38(+0)
      Base                     - 35(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 33(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+1)
      filters and storage      - 29(+0)
      Chart                    - 25(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 24(+0)
      RTL                      - 20(+0)
      BASIC                    - 18(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
      graphics stack           - 15(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 9(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 2(-1)
      Installation             - 1(+0)


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