ESC meeting minutes: 2025-02-06

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Feb 6 15:19:38 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Cloph, Thorsten, Caolan, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Michael W, Michael S, Stephan, Xisco, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 24.8.5 rc2 in 1 week?
   + 25.2.0 announced today
   + 25.2.1 rc1 this week: probably this evening

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Missing Olivier
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         222(222) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     4(2)     24(2)     124(-1)    325(3)
          commented     8(7)     44(-4)    140(-6)    990(-3)
           resolved     3(3)     12(3)      27(-1)    187(2)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 31 changes in 1 month, and 393 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 15 changes in 1 month, and 99 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 13 changes in 1 month, and 241 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 8 changes in 1 month, and 159 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 6 changes in 1 month, and 124 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 6 changes in 1 month, and 13 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 5 changes in 1 month, and 84 changes in 1 year
           Nabet, Julien made 5 changes in 1 month, and 43 changes in 1 year
           Kelemen, Gabor made 4 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 4 changes in 1 month, and 188 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         229(229) (topicUI) bugs open, 20(20) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      5(2)     11(4)     13(4)       22(4)
          commented     50(19)   149(38)   294(42)    1468(2)
            removed      0(0)      1(0)      4(0)       12(0)
           resolved      5(3)     16(2)     42(-1)     232(-4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 91 changes in 1 month, and 763 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 52 changes in 1 month, and 424 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 37 changes in 1 month, and 65 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 31 changes in 1 month, and 210 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 21 changes in 1 month, and 35 changes in 1 year
           Fortin Tam, Jean-François made 11 changes in 1 month, and 30 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 162 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 9 changes in 1 month, and 119 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
           Samuel Mehrbrodt made 5 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 165070] Non-existent removed files remain shown in the open "Recent
            Documents" menu's list
     + [Bug 165032] Writer's table boundary lines not displayed correctly in
            page-split row of the table
  -> + [Bug 163287] When inside a chart object, no (obvious) mechanism to increase
            font sizes
       + would be an ideal use-case for chart styles
     + [Bug 163288] Chart Sidebar Properties deck missing Character section
     + [Bug 163273] Line Thickness command toolbar widget shouldn't be a textbox
            with a spinner control
     + [Bug 165017] Making Add Text Along Path more accessible by adding it
            to the sidebar
  -> + [Bug 164970] Options -> Appearance new LibreOffice Themes panel redesign
       + is a theme just a theme and used always or could contain both Light and Dark values? (Heiko)
       + the later is the current state, good to decide till the next major release


* Crash testing (Caolan)
     + 200(+19) import failure, 31(+16) export failures
       - https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crashtesting
     + 0 coverity issues
     + 2 (-1) ossfuzz issues
       - One SwNodes::UpdateOutlineIdx crash, 1 timeout

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
     + 24.8.3.2    41147(+352)
     + 24.8.4.2    30946(+7584)
     + 25.2.0.2    100(+11)
     + 25.2.0.3    123(+0)

     + New in 25.2.0.3:

     https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/signature/sd::CustomAnimationPane::onSelect()


* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + Added a new draft blog post
    How to improve my LibreOffice patch?
    https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=1345&preview=1&_ppp=9e5bb5af19
  + Working on some ideas for GSoC
     https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
   + Improving report generator
   + Improving Python support
           committer...   1 week    1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open      77(-9)    154(-10)    158(-9)      158(-9)
                reviews     412(28)   1404(84)    3728(-70)   13402(-20)
                 merged     256(1)    1085(164)   3454(-4)    14160(-18)
              abandoned      17(3)      53(14)     171(12)      712(2)
            own commits     168(-3)    715(108)   2344(-35)    9970(-9)
         review commits      46(13)    209(3)      690(-59)    3141(-6)
         contributor...   1 week     1 month      3 months    12 months
                   open     481(77)     917(-210)   1129(-11)    1129(-11)
                reviews     808(-20)   2912(308)    8244(-82)   31350(-78)
                 merged      28(15)      95(5)       365(-44)    1421(14)
              abandoned       8(-13)     55(-7)      222(-5)      627(-20)
            own commits      16(8)       78(-1)      325(-45)    1375(-3)
         review commits       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 346(346)
        total 424(424)   assigned 29(29)   open 357(357)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Shantanu Oak made 15 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
           Ujjawal Kumar made 9 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
           Simon Chenery made 7 patches in 1 month, and 13 patches in 1 year
           Alin, Andrei Abahnencei made 5 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 4 patches in 1 month, and 290 patches in 1 year
           Akshay Dubey made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Mohamed Ali made 3 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 2 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
           Manish Bera made 2 patches in 1 month, and 11 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Caolán McNamara made 130 review comments in 1 month, and 1356 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 120 review comments in 1 month, and 996 in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 118 review comments in 1 month, and 752 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 104 review comments in 1 month, and 1192 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 688 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 82 review comments in 1 month, and 766 in 1 year
           allotropia jenkins made 78 review comments in 1 month, and 392 in 1 year
           Thorsten Behrens made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 670 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 68 review comments in 1 month, and 536 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 64 review comments in 1 month, and 292 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         tdf#161837 Use double in Fraction class internally ( Hossein   )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/171965
             -> Restored
         LibreOffice Theme: Enable AppBackground Customization ( Sahil Gautam )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/172231
         rtl : use string_view hash instead our own ( Arnaud Versini )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/173771
         tdf#162035 assert tests to check for cursor movement crash ( Samuel Adesola )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/174711
         Remove blocking functions feature from core ( Andreas Mantke )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/174865
         tdf#158803 Remove unused imports from pyuno ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176793
             -> Needs more tesing to make sure the change is OK
         tdf#145614 Convert #define to enum class ( Oromidayo Owolabi )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177175
             -> Restored
         tdf#164067 Fix bg color of PageSizeControl (win) ( Rafael Lima )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177485
         tdf#145614 Convert #define to enum or constexpr ( Harris Popal )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177605
         tdf#147021 Use std::size() or std::ssize() instead of SAL_N_ELEMENTS() macro ( Harris Popal )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177648
             -> Restored, needs work
         Qt Welding Notes ( Sahil Gautam )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177719
         Edit svx/source/unodraw/UnoGraphicExporter.cxx ( Hossein   )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177792
         draft tdf#140866 Leave comments unchanged in paste of shapes ( Oliver Specht )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177799
     + big CONGRATULATIONS to contributors who have at least 1 merged patch, since last report:
           Chika Starks

* GSoC (Hossein)
   + https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline
   + Add your ideas: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/GSoC/Ideas
   + each project: 90, 175 or 350 hours

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 13 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 111 ok: 104 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.80% mean_ok:   8 ( 18) median_ok:   6 ( 13)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 112 ok: 105 ko:   5 fail ratio: 4.46% mean_ok:   8 ( 18) median_ok:   5 ( 13)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 112 ok: 105 ko:   2 fail ratio: 1.79% mean_ok:   8 ( 17) median_ok:   6 ( 12)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 112 ok: 105 ko:   5 fail ratio: 4.46% mean_ok:   7 ( 18) median_ok:   5 ( 12)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 234 ok: 192 ko:  33 fail ratio: 14.10% mean_ok:  40 ( 48) median_ok:  35 ( 42)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 264 ok: 216 ko:  23 fail ratio: 8.71% mean_ok:  22 ( 30) median_ok:  19 ( 25)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 229 ok: 205 ko:  12 fail ratio: 5.24% mean_ok:  51 ( 51) median_ok:  46 ( 46)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 229 ok: 198 ko:  21 fail ratio: 9.17% mean_ok:  41 ( 43) median_ok:  35 ( 36)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 282 ok: 176 ko:  74 fail ratio: 26.24% mean_ok:  86 ( 86) median_ok:  82 ( 82)
gerrit_master              jobs:  31 ok:  12 ko:  14 fail ratio: 45.16% mean_ok:  56 ( 56) median_ok:  57 ( 57)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 251 ok: 164 ko:  60 fail ratio: 23.90% mean_ok:  88 ( 88) median_ok:  82 ( 82)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 CppunitTest_writerperfect_writer                gerrit_windows
       3 JunitTest_forms_unoapi_2                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 JunitTest_svx_unoapi                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 UITest_writer_tests2                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       3 UITest_writer_tests4                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       4 UITest_impress_tests                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + pretty silent week (Cloph)
     + almost no waiting times for the builds
     + UITest_writer is from in-progress changes, legit failure
     + UITest_impress is not new

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + tdf#165002 - "gtk3: Buttons to switch between styles categories in sidebar don't
       have an accessible name"
     + tdf#165035 - "gtk3: Label for editable combobox not announced by Orca when combobox
       entry receives focus"
     + further refactoring + related bugfixing of preexinsting issues in widget a11y
       code
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + Missing Jonathan

* FOSDEM 2025 (Xisco)
     - DevRoom: Saturday, February 1, from 10AM to 2PM
     - schedule URL: <https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/track/libreoffice/>
     - it was nice, good to have a devroom again (Thorsten)
     - some of the videos are already online (Hossein)
       + https://video.fosdem.org/2025/h2213/

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1566 (+56)
         + enhancements: 380  (+12)
         + needsUXEval: 10 (+4)
         + haveBackTrace: 12 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 50 (+0)
         + documentation:  4 (+0)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  9 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:
         + Crash on Clone Formatting when selecting more than one table cell
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164949
             + bisected to Oliver

     + New high severity bugs of the week:

             None


* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +145  -31 (-97) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Buovjaga                8
        Michael Stahl (allotropia) 8
        Mike Kaganski           8
        Samuel Mehrbrodt (allotropia) 7
        V Stuart Foote          7
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 6
        Regina Henschel         6
        Michael Weghorn         5
        Xisco Faulí             5
        Oliver Specht (CIB)     4

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Jeff Fortin Tam         13
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 7
        Telesto                 7
        Justin L                5
        Aron Budea              4
        Cekomote                3
        Mike Kaganski           3
        Eyal Rozenberg          2
        Heiko Tietze            2
        Michael Weghorn         2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Michael Stahl           6
        Kelemen, Gabor          5
        Xisco Fauli             5
        Specht, Oliver          4
        Kaganski, Mike          3
        Weghorn, Michael        3
        Grandin, Noel           2
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      2
        Le Grand, Armin         2
        Németh, László          2

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        m.a.riosv               14
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      6
        Raal                    6
        Roman Kuznetsov         4
        Weghorn, Michael        4
        Xisco Fauli             4
        Piotr Osada             3
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    3
        Dieter                  2
        Németh, László          2


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Raal                   4
         Xisco Fauli            3
         Bogdan B               2
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Timur Gadzo            1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         Octavio Alvarez        5
         Raal                   4
         libre                  3
         Xisco Fauli            2
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Timur Gadzo            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1239(-10) bugs open of 13894(+17) total 20(-2) high prio.

      done by:
         Xisco Fauli            3
         m.a.riosv              2
         Raal                   2
         Bogdan B               1
         Weghorn, Michael       1
         Telesto                1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 8(-2)
      Calc          - 6(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 3(+0)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 14(+0)
      Linux         - 4(-1)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 2(-1)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 420(-2)
      Calc                     - 243(-1)
      Impress                  - 126(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 51(-2)
      Draw                     - 49(+0)
      Crashes                  - 44(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 43(+1)
      Base                     - 36(+0)
      Borders                  - 35(+1)
      Writer: perf             - 34(+1)
      UI                       - 32(+0)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 25(+0)
      Chart                    - 23(-3)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      filters and storage      - 22(+1)
      BASIC                    - 20(-1)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+0)
      graphics stack           - 13(+1)
      Formula Editor           - 10(-1)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 2(+0)
      Installation             - 1(+0)


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