Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Feb-20

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Sahil, John, Rizal, Heiko
Comments: Stephane

Tickets/Topics

  * UI: Add arrow size field spinbox to the sidebar
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164928
    + hesitant to add more controls to the sidebar, in general, but
      not blocking on this particular topic (Heiko)
    + using drawing styles could be a proper solution out of the box (Heiko)
    + adding the arrow size wouldn't be so bad on the other hand (Sahil)
    + sidebar should be kept clean and simple (Sahil)
    + remark: more complex shapes such as rectangles also have the arrow
      style but setting the attribute wont be effective
    => do it

  * Making Add Text Along Path more accessible by adding it to the sidebar
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=165017
    + TAP is not a frequently used feature but rather a once off (Heiko)
    + moving the toolbar onto the sidebar area makes it stack with the other
      control and it could be place there anyway (Heiko)
    + no good reason but marketing even not a11y (John)
    => WF

  * Improving tab handling in pasting
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153176
    + too many assumptions (Stephane)
    + pasting text into the Outline view is supposed to work on the title
      and multiple paragraphs create many slides; changing this breaks
      the workflow of other users (Heiko)
    + request is unclear (John)
    + maybe markdown is a solution, see MD2ODP converter
      https://blog.thebehrens.net/tag/impress/ (or bug 162153)
    => WF

  * Options -> Appearance new LibreOffice Themes panel redesign
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164970
    + MSO provides "Use system settings" (not the default!) which
      changes then depending on the OS theme; all other MSO themes
      overwrite this OS-level theming - and this is being requested
      here too
    + the simpler the better (John, Sahil)
    + our solution is superior to the static MSO theming (Sahil)
    + add an option to the theme that allows to disable the distinction
      between light/dark and uses always the one color (Heiko)
    + another solution is to default to white document background and
      let those customize who like the dark on the canvas too (assuming
      there are less than the other way) (Heiko)
    + shipping a few themes by default would be good (John)
    + split UI and canvas again (Rizal, John)
      + makes the customization via themes very difficult (Heiko)
      + against multiple extensions per appearance (Sahil)
    => wait for 25.8 to get more user input in any case
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