Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2025-Jan-23

[Heiko Tietze]

Present: Sahil, Mihai, Heiko
Comments: Dieter, Roman, Mike, Eyal

Tickets/Topics

  * Comments ignore spacing above first paragraph and below last paragraph
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163114
    + inconsistent but saving precious space, WF (Dieter)
    + ordinary bug (Eyal)
    + wouldn't expect the top line to adopt spacing, and in fact
      it doesn't happen for text boxes as well (Sahil)
      + unclear why the first paragraph must not have spacing (Heiko)
    + alternatively introduce an option for the comment box to have
      some margin (Sahil)
      + not so sure this is covered by ODF (Heiko)
    + MSO uses plain text with no styling for comments and we could
      do the same (Sahil)
      + comment style was introduced for 24.2 in bug 103064
    => keep ticket, involve Maxim

  * Hide "save as" formats you never use
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164679
    + depends on the user (Eyal)
    + not a big deal, just a few items in the list (Heiko, Sahil)
    + perhaps add a flag, if needed, so users can eventually toggle
      to show per extension (Heiko)
    => discuss with ESC

  * Writer: Add prepared models of different Table of Contents (ToC)
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135388
    + like the idea (Roman)
    + would be orthogonal to our flexibility-focused approach;
      we have dedicated paragraph styles and would need to either modify
      those on the fly, preventing user modifications, or need to ship
      multiple variants (Heiko)
    + document styles would do the trick - but again on cost of
      overwritten modifications (Heiko)
    + current workflow is quite complex & we may defer this to
      an extension maybe (Sahil)
    => comment

  * add an "Edit List Style" command to Text | List context menu,
    and  Bullets and Numbering dialog should not modify List Styles
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140612
    + mockup attached (Heiko)
    + welcome splitting the current dialog somehow (Mike)
    + B&N dialog has been reworked for bug 120905
    + suggest to resolve WFM, but can live with NEW (Heiko)
    => new, will look into it (Sahil)
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