ESC meeting minutes: 2025-01-30

Miklos Vajna vmiklos at collabora.com
Thu Jan 30 15:31:24 UTC 2025


* Present:
   + Caolan, Cloph, Heiko, Hossein, Ilmari, Michael W, Michael S, Xisco, Miklos

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
   + 24.8.5 rc1 was tagged this week
     + rc2 in 2 weeks
   + 25.2.0 (final) rc3
     + build before FOSDEM, announce after FOSDEM
   + 25.2.1 rc1 next week/after FOSDEM

* Documentation (Olivier)
     + Missing Olivier
     + Bugzilla Documentation statistics
         221(221) bugs open
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
            created     2(-10)   22(-21)   125(-1)    322(1)
          commented     1(-17)   48(-9)    146(-8)    993(-3)
           resolved     0(-5)     9(0)      28(-1)    185(0)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Olivier Hallot made 30 changes in 1 month, and 392 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 22 changes in 1 month, and 241 changes in 1 year
           Heiko Tietze made 18 changes in 1 month, and 99 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 9 changes in 1 month, and 188 changes in 1 year
           Dione Maddern made 8 changes in 1 month, and 125 changes in 1 year
           Kelemen, Gabor made 4 changes in 1 month, and 10 changes in 1 year
           John made 4 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 4 changes in 1 month, and 87 changes in 1 year
           Michael Warner made 3 changes in 1 month, and 4 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 2 changes in 1 month, and 9 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
     + Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
         228(228) (topicUI) bugs open, 16(16) (needsUXEval) needs to be evaluated by the UXteam
     + Updates:
         BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
              added      3(-1)     7(1)      9(-1)      18(1)
          commented     31(1)    111(5)    252(-7)    1466(3)
            removed      0(0)      1(0)      4(0)       12(0)
           resolved      2(0)     14(0)     43(-2)     236(-4)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Heiko Tietze made 80 changes in 1 month, and 784 changes in 1 year
           Vernon, Stuart Foote made 26 changes in 1 month, and 408 changes in 1 year
           Eyal Rozenberg made 24 changes in 1 month, and 203 changes in 1 year
           Roman Kuznetsov made 22 changes in 1 month, and 50 changes in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 16 changes in 1 month, and 48 changes in 1 year
           Dieter made 9 changes in 1 month, and 119 changes in 1 year
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 7 changes in 1 month, and 158 changes in 1 year
           *UNKNOWN* made 5 changes in 1 month, and 5 changes in 1 year
           Samuel Mehrbrodt made 5 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year
           Telesto made 5 changes in 1 month, and 20 changes in 1 year
     + [Bug 164911] Pivot Table dialog window resizes beyond monitor screen height
            when expanding the "Options" or "Source and Destination" expanders
  -> + [Bug 131768] Risk of unintended document sharing if the inserting PDF image
            feature is used
        + Bug 114234 - Dialog for the inserting/opening of images/pdfs with
          multiple pages
        + sounds like a good idea (Miklos)
          + just keep the multi-page PDF import (based on pdfium) working
     + [Bug 164877] Support easy insertion of idiomatic presentation title+subtitle
            slides
     + [Bug 164840] Rename "Title Slide" layout name to "Title, Subtitle"
     + [Bug 163675] LO currently mixed up Left/Right with Start/End tabs

* Crash testing (Caolan)
     + 181(+0) import failure, 15(+0) export failures
     + 5 coverity issues
       - fixes merged
     + 2 Google / ossfuzz issues
       - 1 timeout, 1 new crash (SwNodes::UpdateOutlineIdx)

* Crash Reporting (from crashreport.libreoffice.org) (Xisco)
     + 24.8.2.1    56541(+293)
     + 24.8.3.2    40795(+512)
     + 24.8.4.2    23362(+7738)
     + 25.2.0.2    89(+50)


         - https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/ is down. Schema migration.


* Mentoring (Hossein)
  + Added a new EasyHack based on suggestion from Xisco
    164954 - Translate German variable and constant names
    https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164954
  + Finalized and published a blog post on dev blog
    Custom message boxes using VCL Weld
    https://dev.blog.documentfoundation.org/?p=1356
    + suggest to improve the colors in the code blocks (Ilmari)
    + or just use a background? (Cloph)
      + will look at this (Hossein)
           committer...   1 week     1 month     3 months     12 months
                   open      86(-1)     164(15)     167(15)       167(15)
                reviews     384(-22)   1320(84)    3798(-108)   13422(-108)
                 merged     255(17)     921(126)   3458(-24)    14178(-6)
              abandoned      14(0)       39(1)      159(2)        710(6)
            own commits     171(-9)     607(81)    2379(-42)     9979(-2)
         review commits      33(-20)    206(4)      749(-47)     3147(-22)
         contributor...   1 week    1 month     3 months    12 months
                   open     404(31)   1127(2)     1140(7)      1140(7)
                reviews     828(64)   2604(254)   8326(-36)   31428(30)
                 merged      13(-9)     90(-8)     409(-40)    1407(-6)
              abandoned      21(0)      62(2)      227(11)      647(4)
            own commits       8(-9)     79(-12)    370(-41)    1378(-11)
         review commits       0(0)       0(0)        0(0)         0(0)
     + easyHack statistics:
        needsDevEval 9(9)   needsUXEval 1(1)   cleanup_comments 343(343)
        total 423(423)   assigned 29(29)   open 356(356)
     + top 10 contributors:
           Shantanu Oak made 17 patches in 1 month, and 17 patches in 1 year
           Ujjawal Kumar made 8 patches in 1 month, and 8 patches in 1 year
           Alin, Andrei Abahnencei made 6 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
           Kushagra Kasliwal made 5 patches in 1 month, and 7 patches in 1 year
           Bogdan B made 4 patches in 1 month, and 289 patches in 1 year
           Akshay Dubey made 4 patches in 1 month, and 4 patches in 1 year
           Simon Chenery made 3 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
           Srebotnjak, Martin made 2 patches in 1 month, and 12 patches in 1 year
           Weblate made 2 patches in 1 month, and 30 patches in 1 year
           Darshan Upadhyay made 2 patches in 1 month, and 9 patches in 1 year
     + top 10 reviewers:
           Ilmari Lauhakangas made 142 review comments in 1 month, and 752 in 1 year
           Adolfo Jayme Barrientos made 132 review comments in 1 month, and 970 in 1 year
           Caolán McNamara made 132 review comments in 1 month, and 1376 in 1 year
           Vajna, Miklos made 94 review comments in 1 month, and 1194 in 1 year
           Christian Lohmaier made 72 review comments in 1 month, and 690 in 1 year
           Xisco Fauli made 70 review comments in 1 month, and 754 in 1 year
           Kaganski, Mike made 62 review comments in 1 month, and 528 in 1 year
           Hossein   made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 288 in 1 year
           allotropia jenkins made 58 review comments in 1 month, and 370 in 1 year
           Michael Stahl made 56 review comments in 1 month, and 838 in 1 year
     + Patches automatically abandoned:
         python3: upgrade to 3.12.4 ( Hossein   )
          -> Restored, needs work
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168576
         The value of no solution was found to be an incorrect behavior fix. ( Todor Balabanov )
          -> Restored, has issues
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/168922
         add right border test tdf#156782 ( Keldin Maldonado )
          -> Restored
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/169779
         tdf#161837 Use double instead of Fraction class ( Hossein   )
          -> Restored, needs work
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/170084
         tdf#48140 Replace uno CellRangeAddress call with Calc method direct call ( Chizoba ODINAKA )
          -> Negative review
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/175574
         Fix typo ( Andrea Gelmini )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/176935
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
          -> Restored
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177085
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
          -> Restored
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177089
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177105
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177106
         tdf#163486: PVS V1028 Possible overflow. Consider casting operands, ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177108
         tdf#152299 - Remove unused define(s) from C/C++ files ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177142
         tdf#152299 - Remove unused define(s) from C/C++ files ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177144
         tdf#152299 - Remove unused define(s) from C/C++ files ( Bogdan Buzea )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177178
         vcl: aStandardSize -> nStandardSize ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177387
         vcl: make variables const in BitmapEx::AutoScaleBitmap() ( Chris Sherlock )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/177388
         WIP compilerplugins: badstatics: flag all types with user-defined dtor ( Michael Stahl )
             - https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/43206

* Commit Access

* Developer Certification (Stephan/Miklos/László/Gabriel)
   + resting since: 12 weeks (limit: 20 weeks)

* Jenkins / CI update (Cloph)
gerrit_android_aarch64     jobs: 140 ok: 130 ko:   9 fail ratio: 6.43% mean_ok:   7 ( 17) median_ok:   5 ( 11)
gerrit_android_arm         jobs: 139 ok: 134 ko:   5 fail ratio: 3.60% mean_ok:   8 ( 18) median_ok:   5 ( 12)
gerrit_android_x86         jobs: 139 ok: 129 ko:   9 fail ratio: 6.47% mean_ok:   7 ( 17) median_ok:   6 ( 11)
gerrit_android_x86_64      jobs: 139 ok: 133 ko:   5 fail ratio: 3.60% mean_ok:   7 ( 18) median_ok:   6 ( 11)
gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil jobs: 293 ok: 240 ko:  49 fail ratio: 16.72% mean_ok:  37 ( 45) median_ok:  33 ( 37)
gerrit_linux_gcc_release   jobs: 316 ok: 273 ko:  29 fail ratio: 9.18% mean_ok:  22 ( 29) median_ok:  19 ( 20)
gerrit_mac                 jobs: 295 ok: 257 ko:  33 fail ratio: 11.19% mean_ok:  52 ( 52) median_ok:  46 ( 46)
gerrit_windows             jobs: 281 ok: 256 ko:  19 fail ratio: 6.76% mean_ok:  38 ( 39) median_ok:  35 ( 35)
gerrit_master_ml           jobs: 335 ok: 212 ko: 102 fail ratio: 30.45% mean_ok:  79 ( 79) median_ok:  71 ( 71)
gerrit_master              jobs:  44 ok:  28 ko:  16 fail ratio: 36.36% mean_ok:  57 ( 57) median_ok:  50 ( 50)
gerrit_master_seq          jobs: 291 ok: 184 ko:  86 fail ratio: 29.55% mean_ok:  82 ( 82) median_ok:  73 ( 73)
    + tests that failed more than twice in last seven days
       3 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_gcc_release
       4 UITest_cui_dialogs                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       5 JunitTest_toolkit_unoapi_4                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 Killed by the kill-wrapper                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
       6 UITest_calc_tests4                gerrit_linux_clang_dbgutil
   + good week for CI, nothing stands out specifically (Cloph)
   + Can we get meson/ninja installed (Noel)
       - AFAICT this currently applies only for the android buildbots
       - added to the tinderboxes today, but the build is not happy (Cloph)
       - background: needed to build a new enough cairo (meson/ninja)
         - almalinux8 has too old meson, need to install a custom one
       - probably doesn't affect other platforms by default, because we use the system cairo or no cairo

* What’s cooking (Miklos)
   + A11y update (Michael W)
     + refactoring + various smaller fixes for widget a11y code
   + RTL/CTL/CJK update (Jonathan)
     + Missing Jonathan
   + mso-test tool (Justin)
     + https://collaboraonline.github.io/mso-test/
     + code at https://github.com/CollaboraOnline/mso-test
     + idea is to load documents into MSO, after export from LO

* FOSDEM 2025 (Xisco)
     - DevRoom: Saturday, February 1, from 10AM to 2PM
     - schedule URL: <https://fosdem.org/2025/schedule/track/libreoffice/>
     - this weekend!
     - wiki page https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2025/FOSDEM
       - if you plan to attend the community dinner, please add your name (Thorsten)

* QA update (Xisco)
     + UNCONFIRMED: 1510 (+40)
         + enhancements: 368  (+0)
         + needsUXEval: 6 (+1)
         + haveBackTrace: 12 (+0)
         + needsDevAdvice: 50 (+2)
         + documentation:  4 (+1)
         + android:  0 (+0)
         + iOS:  0 (+0)
         + Online:  9 (+0)


     + Most pressing bugs:
      New:

     None

      Fixed:
         + View -> Boundaries is turned off by default making it impossible to move image + caption frame
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164185
             + thanks to Ilmari


     + New high severity bugs of the week:
         + FILEOPEN DOC: hidden, empty paragraph now visible
             + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164800
             + Michael S?

* QA stats
     + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
       +114  -33 (-74) overall)
       many thanks to the top bug squashers:
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 12
        Xisco Faulí             9
        Mike Kaganski           8
        Buovjaga                3
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Timur                   3
        Andreas Heinisch        2
        Caolán McNamara         2
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Michael Weghorn         2

     + top 10 bugs reporters:
        Justin L                17
        Aertx                   9
        Michael Otto            8
        Gabor Kelemen (allotropia) 6
        Mihai Vasiliu           4
        Eyal Rozenberg          3
        Timur                   3
        Michael Weghorn         2
        Mike Kaganski           2
        ardv                    2

     + top 10 bugs fixers:
        Kelemen, Gabor          7
        Xisco Fauli             7
        Kaganski, Mike          6
        Balazs Varga            2
        Jonathan Clark          2
        Weghorn, Michael        2
                                1
        Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 1
        Andreas Heinisch        1
        Caolán McNamara         1

     + top 10 bugs confirmers:
        m.a.riosv               7
        Raal                    6
        Ilmari Lauhakangas      5
        Vernon, Stuart Foote    5
        Justin Luth             4
        Kelemen, Gabor          4
        *UNKNOWN*               3
        Bogdan B                3
        Heiko Tietze            3
        Kaganski, Mike          3


* Bisected bugs open: keyword 'bisected'
    + more accurate - down to a single commit.
    + http://bit.ly/2dyIfDy
    +

      done by:
         Bogdan B               3
         Raal                   2
         Aron Budea             1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Timur Gadzo            1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* Bibisected bugs open: keyword 'bibisected'
    + http://bit.ly/2cSCXlS
    +

      done by:
         libre                  9
         Raal                   2
         Aron Budea             1
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     1
         Kelemen, Gabor         1
         Timur Gadzo            1
         Xisco Fauli            1


* all bugs tagged with 'regression'
    + 1249(+15) bugs open of 13877(+25) total 22(+0) high prio.

      done by:
         Aron Budea             2
         Ilmari Lauhakangas     2
         Raal                   2
         nobu                   1


* ~Component   count net * high severity regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1HWHb3E
      Writer        - 10(+0)
      Calc          - 6(+0)
      LibreOffice   - 3(+0)
      Impress       - 2(+0)
      UI            - 1(+0)

    by OS:
      All           - 14(+0)
      Linux         - 5(+0)
      Mac OS X      - 0(+0)
      Windows       - 3(+0)


* ~Component   count net * all regressions
    + http://bit.ly/1BUdI8i
      Writer: other            - 422(+4)
      Calc                     - 244(+0)
      Impress                  - 126(+0)
      LibreOffice              - 53(+2)
      Draw                     - 49(+0)
      Crashes                  - 44(+0)
      Writer: docx filter      - 42(+2)
      Base                     - 36(-1)
      Borders                  - 34(+0)
      Writer: perf             - 33(+1)
      UI                       - 32(-1)
      Writer: other filter     - 30(+0)
      Chart                    - 26(+0)
      Printing and PDF export  - 25(-1)
      RTL                      - 23(+0)
      BASIC                    - 21(-1)
      filters and storage      - 21(+0)
      Writer: doc filter       - 18(+1)
      graphics stack           - 12(+0)
      Formula Editor           - 11(+0)
      framework                - 3(+0)
      sdk                      - 3(+0)
      Extensions               - 2(+0)
      Linguistic               - 2(+0)
      Installation             - 1(+0)


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